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PenguinJuice, to RedditMigration in Reddit braces for life after API changes

There is no hope that reddit bounces back to legitimate relevancy after this. We are in the early stages of its death spiral

PostnataleAbtreibung,

Oh my gosh, I so hope they shot themselfes in the food, healed with an underlying infection, develop sepsis, recover from this and fetch mrsa in the hospital just to die from falling down the stairs.

LazaroFilm,
@LazaroFilm@kbin.social avatar

@PenguinJuice Even if they were to back track on their decisions, they’ve shown us they can destroy it all just because they want to. The threadiverse will allow a bit more of checks and balances. I’m storing Reddit along with MySpace, in the hood memories I had there until the fire nation arrived.

@Girlparts

JonEFive,

It's a lot like Twitter. Twitter was doing alright prior to Musk. Their user base was as strong and plentiful as ever. There have always been shitty users and toxic corners but Twitter did their best to downplay that and highlight the better parts of their platform. They did their best to walk that fine line between moderation and censorship.

But with Musk spending $44bn so that he could meme without consequence and restore accounts of politically powerful people to gain favor, along with him gutting all of the departments that did the moderation, the site has gone from a legitimate place to interact to a well known cesspool of toxicity that users and corporations are starting to shy away from. Turns out that getting rid of moderators might not be such a good idea.

There are still a great many users on Twitter who are actively participating and that won't change anytime soon. But the ratio of good content to bad has changed and Twitter's reputation both as a company and as a platform has been tarnished. Twitter isn't going anywhere, but many people have grown weary of the antics and moved on. And that's what we're seeing of reddit right now. The only difference is the simultaneous mass, organized exodus of users from reddit vs the more gradual enshitification of Twitter.

possiblylinux127, to privacy in Comcast says hackers stole data of close to 36 million Xfinity customers

I love that all of my data is “open source” due to all of the security breaches

Sabata11792,
@Sabata11792@kbin.social avatar

You can use google to find your social security number if you ever forget.

paraphrand,

We really are living in the future.

YeetPics, to news in Brave lays off 9% of its workforce | TechCrunch
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

Only 91% of total layoffs remaining.

pg_jglr, to privacyguides in Signal details costs of keeping its private messaging service alive | TechCrunch

Bit difficult to keep using it since they killed sms interoperability. I understand the security concerns but if no one uses it, doesn’t really matter does it.

LollerCorleone, (edited )
@LollerCorleone@kbin.social avatar

If you were using Signal just for SMS, none of your messages were secure anyway since the SMS protocol itself is not–defeating the purpose of signal. And if you had already convinced people to install Signal by using SMS as a caveat, you can just continue contacting them through the app.

I was able to convince pretty much everyone who matter in my life to install Signal and they all love it because WhatsApp has become too cluttered and spammy.

Kalkaline,
@Kalkaline@leminal.space avatar

I can’t get anyone to use it. They should market it as a workaround for the Android/iPhone/PC messaging issues with privacy and security as a bonus, but I don’t know if iPhone users would go for it.

infectoid,
@infectoid@lemmy.world avatar

iPhone user and monthly signal donor here. Have been using it since it was available for signal. Have managed to get everyone I care about to install and use it.

I basically made it the only way to message me and get my attention.

I’m not that special, I just care about my friends and I think they might like me enough to do this one thing for me. At least they know they can cut me out of their lives by uninstalling signal.

moreeni,

It does because it’s code you have to take into account when adding new features. Basically unnecessary pain in the ass.

iso, to news in Spotify spotted prepping a $19.99/mo 'Superpremium' service with lossless audio, AI playlists and more | TechCrunch
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

So they’re using our data and also getting paid for it 😄 I want to ditch it but can’t find an alternative that simple and with wide library.

Onii-Chan,
@Onii-Chan@kbin.social avatar

InnerTune is what finally got me to ditch Spotify. It's free, no account required, uses YouTube Music (so imo, a wider range of content) AND shuffle is genuinely random.

8bitguy,

Deezer is decent.

pollen,

You mean deezent?

Albin7326,
@Albin7326@suppo.fi avatar

Why not use youtube music via a foss client ? Or just use spottube.

WarmSoda,

YouTube with an ad block/an api. It has every song and album on it, you can make playlists and there’s a million playlists already on it.

pollen,

Not lossless, so it’s not comparable.

WarmSoda,

Then buy the music and use a media player.

pollen,

Less convenient and you lose music discovery. Also not comparable.

wagesj45,
@wagesj45@kbin.social avatar

So they’re using our data and also getting paid for it

Yeah? Isn't that the point of paying for a music service? I pay, they give me access to music and curate it in a way that would be enjoyable to me. How could they do that without some information about me? This is a prime example of what a company should use your data for.

This logic is really sending me, man.

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Tidal has better sound quality and works just as well

pollen,
entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

OK, didn’t say it was. Just said the sound quality was better than Spotify

pollen,

With Spotify going lossless, I don’t see how Tidal’s sound quality can be “better”.

Unless if you’re referring to Spotify’s current sound quality—in which case you’re making a meaningless comparison.

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

My comment was in the present tense. I thought that much was self-explanatory.

Tidal offers their “lossless” audio at their lowest tier, for Spotify it’ll cost $20/month. The article we’re all here commenting on mentions how Spotify previously announced and then failed to launch their Hifi service.

Suffice it to say I don’t think this is as clear cut of a case as you’re making it out to be

ensignrick,
@ensignrick@startrek.website avatar

I’ve had a Spotify sub for 10+ years. I’m getting really close to ditching it because imo the app design is getting worse as prices increase… I was super disappointed in the car thing too. Spotube is a really nice alternative that’s foss. Checkout spotube.netlify.app.

verysoft,

Yesss, it's UX was the main selling point it had over competitors and why I also kept with it. It has slowly started going down hill with all these library and playlist changes they have seemingly made for no reason at all, while they keep ignoring user requested features. Will check out this spotube.

AlexWIWA,

Every ui update makes the app significantly worse

audiomodder,

I’ve been using Apple Music for a couple years now and I’m pretty satisfied with it. I moved because Spotify pays artists atrociously and Apple is at least a little better. There hasn’t been much I haven’t been able to find, since there are a lot of services out there that will handle the release of music to multiple platforms easily.

Rai,

I went from flac hoarding to Apple Music because they have lossless by default, and I love it. I still hoard flacs, but now when I’m not at home I have most all of the songs I love, lossless.

strangerloop,

Tidal’s pretty good, they cost the same as spotify but all accounts have access to lossless. The playlists it makes for me are no worse than spotify’s and I can sleep happy knowing the artists I listen to get compensated better than on either Spotify or Apple Music.

I also feel the app’s design helps me see music in the context of the album it was released in instead of as random tracks, which has made me reconnect with some kinds of music I’d grown apart from after I got Spotify.

Ghoelian,

Tidal’s base subscription costs the same as spotify, but to get lossless you have to pay more. Where I live it’s 20 euros / month for lossless.

java,

I decided to give it a try.

https://i.imgur.com/9qaysjT.png

An ‘invalid’ character in a password, that’s just great.

Moonrise2473, to news in Blue checks aren't protecting sex workers from X's porn crackdown | TechCrunch

News: obvious scam revealed to be obvious scam

Plume, to news in Brave lays off 9% of its workforce | TechCrunch

Brave? You mean the privacy focused web browser which marketing’s is so awful I can’t get myself to trust it, due to how much of it looks like a malware crypto scam, who was made by an asshole who was outed from Mozilla for being a homophobic asshole? Yeah. Fuck Brave.

Madison_rogue, to RedditMigration in Reddit braces for life after API changes
@Madison_rogue@kbin.social avatar

The API pricing would cost him nearly $20 million per month to run his app

I really wish journalists would get this right. I've seen $20 million per month instead of per year more than once.

melroy,
@melroy@kbin.melroy.org avatar

even per year it's too much :P

RojaBunny, to RedditMigration in Fidelity has cut Reddit valuation to $5.5B from $10B

Is there a reason discord is also being devalued? I haven't heard of anything negative going on there and they seem to be doing fine.

CthuluVoIP,

Recent data breach, and users being unhappy with the username rollout.

OtakuAltair,
@OtakuAltair@lemmy.world avatar

It also just generally feels bloated nowadays... I just want to chat

BedSharkPal,

It's so sad when apps stray from their lane and just become bloated messes. I'm looking at you too Postman...

ngmi,
@ngmi@kbin.social avatar

also, Discord is basically owned by china

CthuluVoIP,

Agree, personally. Nitro ads are getting more intrusive too. I understand they have to monetize somehow, but I wish it were handled based on server population rather than blanket spread to all clients. I don’t participate in any huge servers because notification suppression sucks in Discord. The servers I do use are mostly sub 50 users, and as such don’t consume anywhere near as many resources as some of these mega servers out there.

amphy,

for real! I have a lower tier of nitro but the phrasing around all the higher-tier stuff says "try nitro :)" as if they don't already have their pound of flesh.

iAmTheTot,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

notification suppression sucks in Discord

How so? I'm part of several large servers and they're all no notifications.

CthuluVoIP,

Because it’s basically all or nothing. And even then, Admins can do notification blasts that override user settings. I want more granular control so I can basically subscribe to specific content in specific channels I interact with rather than broad notification settings.

DaniAlexander,

Don't know if maybe you don't know when the settings but you can change it to just @mentions with suppress @everyone. You could also do that for individual channels within each discord.

For instance I have probably 100 servers that I belong to. But I only have three channels within each of the servers that I want all notifications. Everything else is set to just direct mentions with @everyone suppressed.

Not sure if you knew what but if you did, sorry for the rehash. If not, hope it helped. I know what it's like to be completely annoyed by beep beeping on your computer 😠

conciselyverbose,

Yeah, discord is way less bad than anything else I've seen. Tags would be cool but you can change settings per channel and server and as the host you can give people more granular control by using roles.

I don't really know what more you would reasonably want.

Aesculapius,
@Aesculapius@kbin.social avatar

I've had issues the other way too. Smaller servers (even my own) that don't send notifications or list badges on channels.

iAmTheTot,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

But... You can? You can do settings per channel, and I'm not aware of any thing admins can do to overwrite notification settings, I have huge servers that I haven't gotten a notification for in years.

CthuluVoIP,

No, for sure. My issue is probably more distinct. I want discord to work like a forum and not like a chat application. I want to subscribe to get notifications only from specific users, or about specific keywords or topics, rather than broad mentions / everyone settings. I also recognize that I'm not the target demographic in that respect, but searching for discord notification threads will yield quite a few results from other users like me who want more control over when and what the app notifies them about.

iAmTheTot,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

Okay but this started by you saying that Discord's notification suppression is bad. And then claimed admins can overwrite your suppression settings. And I said no it's not and no they can't, and you come back saying "well what I really want is this"

Like, yeah, sounds like Discord isn't the platform for you and that's okay. But not for the original reason you said.

CthuluVoIP,

Discord’s client doesn’t allow users to mute announcements. Or at least didn’t when last I checked. And my point stands, I want more granular suppression options and the ability to disable announcements entirely. Nothing I said discredits my original position. To me, not having complete control over what types of notifications I receive is bad suppression. If that definition doesn’t mete out for you, that’s fine.

iAmTheTot,
@iAmTheTot@kbin.social avatar

Yes you can. You can mute anything and everything you want. And you can have per channel overrides. So you could say mute everything (yes including announcements) and then override that to notifications for a single thread on that server.

FIST_FILLET,
@FIST_FILLET@kbin.social avatar

data breach

had heard absolutely 0 about this. thank fuck i wasn't impacted, brb gonna go change my discord email to a burner alias from simplelogin

Itty53, (edited )
@Itty53@kbin.social avatar

Tech startups of all kinds are being devalued the last 12 months. The tech sector was always heavily based in speculation and so as the markets recoil, the tech sector was going to feel it the hardest. People have been predicting that for years, literally.

The reddit devaluation falls in line with all that, not really the migration at all. Guys I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Fidelity's valuation experts don't give one shit about the happiness of the users, and only give half a shit about the number of them -- which, that number comes from reddit themselves on a "trust me bro" basis, like the user counts of any service. Let me even go one step further: the louder you complain about reddit, the more important you make reddit look, the more valuable you make reddit to investors. You have to re-frame your thinking when considering markets like this: users are not customers, they're products. "Look at the reaction of all those users" is what this migration boils down to, to those valuation experts.

On the exact same note you can bet on the rising popularity of any given celebrity by the number of their detractors. See a new starlet getting hated on by everyone on Twitter? They're going to sell more albums because of it. Every time.

Edit: Just like the trolls, your best bet to change the landscape of social media is to ignore the bad actors, including the social medias themselves. Don't engage with them and don't advertise for them by talking about them. Kbin's second largest magazine is RedditMigration. You're defining this place by the continued existence of reddit. Guys: Move. On. Let it die.

Froyn,

What did Kevin Smith do??

Itty53, (edited )
@Itty53@kbin.social avatar

Nothing. But Weinstein produced all his movies, and Weinstein makes money every time they stream. He owns the IP, not Smith. And more are in the works. All the while Smith is downplaying his association with the guy. That kind of thing happens all over. It's just people making opportunity out of catastrophe, a very time honored tradition in human society. The fact is Smith cares more about continuing to make his money playing the same character he has since the 90s - despite a sick, disgusting rapist profiting from it every time - shows just how out of touch with the way businesses and money works that most people are. When he goes on stage and calls Weinstein a rapist gargoyle and nods along with the crowd, keep all that in mind. He's still actively working to earn that gargoyle money because it earns Kevin Smith a lot of money as well.

We like to think we're the ones in touch with reality, but realities aren't mutually exclusive. When we say wealthy people live in a "different reality" we're not saying they live in something that isn't reality. It is. For them. Not us. And understanding that is key to empowering us to change those realities.

Froyn,

So any Miramax film made during Weinstein's tenure should be shunned. Got it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Miramax_films -- So you know what all you're stating, he's every film they've been involved in.
Any time Weinstein's name shows up in a credit on a movie/tv, he gets a residual. His are probably forced to go to his victim fund. Smith is donating his residuals from that era to "Women in Film", voluntarily.

Miramax and Weinstein broke up BTW. Weinstein only holds the rights to Dogma, Miramax still owns the rest. Smiths' current production company is Lionsgate. While Lionsgate's subsidiary Spyglass bought most of the Weinstein Company catalog, they are not owned/operated by Weinstein.

People are multi-faceted. I believe Smith when he said he "didn't know THAT person" when speaking of Harvey. Smith probably viewed him the same way you would a priest. I'm certain that pedophile priests aren't acting all pedophily during Sunday Services. Again, you're logic is that we should burn down the church because a priest couldn't stop being hands-on with the altar boys.
Harvey Weinstein didn't create the characters or write the script. He didn't direct the movies. He wrote numbers and signed the check.

Show me anything stating that Weinstein owns more than Dogma.

Miramax produced the following:
October 11, 2002 Pokémon 4Ever

I guess that means that Ash needs to be held to account for Weinstein's transgressions, right?

swayevenly, to privacy in Comcast says hackers stole data of close to 36 million Xfinity customers

I was trying to check how many customers Comcast has and, from what I saw, 36 million is just about all of them.

SLaSZT, to news in You can now react to messages on Gmail | TechCrunch
@SLaSZT@kbin.social avatar

I'm struggling to think of a use case for this. Why not just reply and put an emoji in there?

GunnarRunnar,

Are you talking generally about emoji reactions or just when it comes to email?

rgb3x3,

I would think just email. Who uses email for anything other than formal communication anymore where it would be inappropriate to use emoji reactions?

Reactions are fine for casual messaging, but email just isn’t that kind of social platform.

bermuda,

I assume it’s to cut down on wasted space from “thumbs up” and “Okay” emails.

SLaSZT,
@SLaSZT@kbin.social avatar

I thought it would be obvious because of the article headline, but email reactions. It's undeniable that emoji are useful for communication, I'm just not convinced that this particular interaction with an email is anything that anyone asked for or needs.

The only use case I can imagine would be for school/work accounts, but this feature isn't supported for those types of accounts yet. I'd assume that's because it's not yet integrated into the Office 365 platform.

The question remains: who outside of a corporate environment needs this? Maybe large families who communicate through chain emails? I honestly don't know anyone who uses email to have group chats anymore, but I suppose those people must exist. Just seems like it would be a small number.

anothermember,

I thought you just reply with the letter “J” that’s the convention, right?

Ertebolle, to RedditMigration in Fidelity has cut Reddit valuation to $5.5B from $10B

I still have 14,000 free coins in my account - maybe soon the valuation will drop low enough that I can buy the company with them, like in that Star Trek TNG episode where Data wins so much money that he buys the casino.

milkytoast, to RedditMigration in Fidelity has cut Reddit valuation to $5.5B from $10B
@milkytoast@kbin.social avatar

it's almost like not listening to your users doesn't end well

ANuStart,

4.5 billion still sounds well to me...

milkytoast,
@milkytoast@kbin.social avatar

wee bit worse than 10b

Poppamunz,
@Poppamunz@kbin.social avatar

not if that's the amount you lost

LynnTheChaoticWitch,

A fifty percent drop isn’t a good sign

billiam0202,

Rumor has it that Reddit wants to IPO at $15 billion. Hard to do that when you were worth $10 last year and are worth $4.5 this year.

Jaysyn,
@Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

This happened before the current kerfluffle.

dark_stang, to news in Israel’s startup ecosystem: Down but not out | TechCrunch
@dark_stang@beehaw.org avatar

“There’s a new war going on, is this affecting my investments?!” - some capitalists I assume.

iamhazel, to news in Spotify spotted prepping a $19.99/mo 'Superpremium' service with lossless audio, AI playlists and more | TechCrunch
@iamhazel@beehaw.org avatar

Couple weeks ago I did a cleanse and found my subscriptions had ballooned to nearly $150/mo. They should not be able to charge on auto pay when they switch the terms and raise the prices.

explodicle,

I hope it eventually switches from “give out the secret number to take your money” to “use the secret number to spend your money”. Then I can use a script, a third party service, or whatever to handle recurring payments.

agegamon,

My rule for a while has been to limit myself to one major subscription at a time. It really curtails the rampant streaming costs.

I made an exception for spotify for a while (so I’d have spotify + one streaming service + maybe one small low-cost one) but with how expensive they’ve all gotten I’ve reverted to only spotify and low-cost stuff.

Right now I just have spotify and dropout TV so I can catch up on Dimension 20.

iamhazel,
@iamhazel@beehaw.org avatar

After a purge I’m left with YNAB, Microsoft 365, GitHub Copilot, and a YouTube membership to City Planner Plays (s/o).

I’m particularly annoyed with MS365 because of how intertwined with Windows it has become, making it harder to get rid of the subscription… and it is kinda nice to reinstall Windows, login, and everything is just … there. Just as it was 20 minutes ago.

techwithjake,

100% agree with you. It’s why I use Privacy.com and set a limit to what it can charge. Stuff gets more expensive without me noticing, welp. I gotta decide if it’s worth it to keep paying.

(Sorry, sounds like a shill. It’s just saved me multiple times in the past.)

iamhazel,
@iamhazel@beehaw.org avatar

Huh neat! Can you still get points on your credit card for purchases do you know?

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