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ArcaneSlime, (edited ) to piracy in FBI and Austria's C4 Hit Z-Library with a New Wave of Domain Seizures

From the title I was like “well damn they’re getting serious now, they blew up Z lib’s servers with C4?!” until I finished reading.

Lemmchen, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

Can someone TL;DR the actual “worse” thing?

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

They will skip the notice via proxy (your ISP passing a notice to you without identifying you to the claimant) and go straight to court to have the ISP forced to provide the ID of the subscriber for a specific IP observed to be active torrenting copyrighted materials.

Then they’ll attempt to recover those court costs from that subscriber as well as sue them for the original copyright infringement.

I think they’ll have quite an uphill battle with that approach, particularly when trying to prove the subscriber to an internet connection is also responsible for, let alone aware of, the alleged infringement. If it was that easy, they wouldn’t have bothered with notices to begin with.

Paradachshund,

Yeah this happened during the Napster era and it was so incredibly unpopular and unsympathetic with the general public that it didn’t continue after a while. Suing a single mom on food stamps for thousands of dollars because her teenage son downloaded a game one time is a truly abominable look for a company.

Flax_vert, (edited ) to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN

How sad do you have to be

jose1324,

It’s not really a group. More of a full commercial organization

BluesF, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

Many copyright holders believe that if they’re able to communicate with pirates, a proportion will change their behavior.

Yes, they will probably be more careful next time

Cannacheques,

Dutch company sends pirates dick pics with ominous warnings as a means of fearmongering for the pirates

Auli,

They’re probably right. Those letters from isps have scared people I know.

mayonaise_met,

When the day comes that Brein starts sending notices to pirates, these pirates will just move to Newsgroups and VPNs.

LiveLM, (edited )
neshura, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

One thing I always find curious is these “rights holders” assuming a 100% sales conversion from piracy when, in reality, it’s probably closer to 1-10%

Amir,
@Amir@lemmy.ml avatar

I doubt it’s even positive.

papertowels,

I can see that - if you’re pirating you’ll just take anything because there’s no cost, but if you’re buying something it has to be worth it.

Lemmchen,

Plus, there are studies that show piracy can actually be a positive factor for sales in some cases.

ikidd, to piracy in FBI and Austria's C4 Hit Z-Library with a New Wave of Domain Seizures
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Jesus, do they have nothing better to do? Maybe go deal with Russian oligarchs or Israeli war criminals.

Darkassassin07, (edited ) to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Even if they do make it to court; how do they plan on translating an IP address into the ID of the actual infringer? (not the ISP subscriber, they can’t be assumed to be the same, particularly in court)

Just because I pay for my families internet connection doesn’t make me responsible, culpable, or even aware of their activities. Even less so now that I’m not going to receive any notice of potentially illicit activity.

If they could haul people into court based on just an IP and get somewhere useful, they’d have done it hundreds of thousands of times over already.

WarmApplePieShrek, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

BREIN. There’s an evil villain name if I ever saw one.

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

If fact, I think the bad guy from Half-Life 2 had that name.

jose1324,

Breen

Jake_Farm,
@Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz avatar

Sounds the same, i never played with subtitles. XD

mateomaui, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

Use a VPN. Keep Sailing.

sirico,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Use a multi hop VPN that doesn’t advertise next to raid shadow legends

Goony,

Recommendations for a noob like me?

mateomaui,

I’m probably not the best person to ask because we have limited options for speed in Hawaii with how we get our internet. I think the only company with an access point in this state is Private Internet Access, and I use a different one that others probably wouldn’t recommend because it doesn’t have an unblemished history, but I’ve been hoovering up everything for 8+ years with them and haven’t gotten a notice yet.

But, when my current subscription is almost up, I’m probably going to try Mullvad because I’ve read nothing but unanimous good feedback about them. I think ProtonVPN is another popular one.

Aside from that, I’m pretty sure if you search lemmy for VPN in the title, a few threads will come back full of recommendations from everyone.

There’s also this comparison sheet someone on Reddit made and was last updated in October:

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…/htmlview

Thorned_Rose, (edited ) to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)
@Thorned_Rose@kbin.social avatar

"injured rights holders"

🙄🙄🙄🙄🤮

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

come on now be nice. warner brothers entire business is hurting when you download that tv season instead of paying for it they might have to shelf another finished movie and claim the multi million dollar tax break again. /s

NocturnalEngineer,
AeroLemming,

If a rights holder claims injury, I should be allowed to make it true by stealing their car.

uriel238, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I suspect this is not going to go well when they find poor people who torrent for the community and try to squeeze them for blood in the courts, or find that an academic server is used to seed in it’s idle time.

This figured into the cruel, heartless reputations of the MPA and RIAA that persist to this day.

ramblinguy,

Have the MPA and RIAA stopped being cruel and heartless?

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

They’ve turned away from suing pirates directly for alleged costs, because telling a little girl she owes you thousands for downloading a song is really not a good look.

So they’ve been trying to convince the ISPs to deny service to people, but the ISPs don’t want to piss off their own customers (any more than they already do with hidden fees and crappy service).

Auli,

Music piracy is all but dead. Video was dying but is making a comeback now that streaming is as bad as cable was.

uriel238,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

It shouldn’t be. I’m noticing that some songs just don’t exist anymore on streaming services. Don Henley’s Boys of Summer for instance, and Play With Me by Thompson Twins (the Cool World version)

Once again, it’s up to pirates to make sure that all versions of songs are archived.

Yglorba,

Yeah, it says that they’re all “well we would have rather do it the other way for your sakes” but the fact is that if they thought they could reliably obtain money this way they’d be doing it already. A ton of legal fees are going to be wasted pursuing people they can’t catch for one reason or another, meaning that their desire to make the pirates pay their costs isn’t going to work as reliably as they’d want.

killeronthecorner, to piracy in Naver Webtoon: "150 Pirate Sites Shut Down" After Cloudflare DMCA Subpoena
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

150 signs taken down

kokesh, to piracy in Naver Webtoon: "150 Pirate Sites Shut Down" After Cloudflare DMCA Subpoena
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

Will they ever learn?

ruk_n_rul, to piracy in FBI and Austria's C4 Hit Z-Library with a New Wave of Domain Seizures

Literally Fahrenheit 451

thorbot, to piracy in BitTorrent Pirates Won’t Receive ISP Warnings (It Will Be Something Worse)

BRB switching my VPN location to the fucking NETHERLANDS

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