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KSPAtlas, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

Applies to both, some parts of windows havent been updated since forever

cedeho, in The most secure OS named windows

Most Windows Programs running with root access is like, I don’t know… Windows XP era maybe?

Honytawk,

This is Linuxmemes, what did you expect?

Up-to-date knowledge of other systems? lol

cedeho,

“Up-to-date” is quite unfitting for ~17-18 years :P

agent_flounder,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

Probably pre-SP2 for that matter.

1337,

Windows ME was the last edition to make this assumption. NT was never like that.

kernelle,

UAC was introduced with vista, IIRC in xp any program would inherit the privileges of the user running them

MooseBoys, in When you need to retire an old server

Honestly by the time I decide to retire an old machine, it’s because I’ve developed so much animosity towards it that I’m much more likely to have an attitude of “good riddance” than “farewell old friend”.

Anticorp,

I still have the very first computer that I ever built, all the way back in 2001. I never had anything but fond feelings about that machine.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

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eskuero, in Stability
@eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws avatar

A Debian sid user is just a future Arch Linux user.

I use arch btw

sharkfucker420,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Arch btw

redbr64,
@redbr64@lemmy.world avatar

Arch

redbr64,
@redbr64@lemmy.world avatar

Btw

Ziglin, (edited )

Am I invited here? I use arch based distro btw.

DolphinMath,

You really should have read the wiki before asking that question. /s

PullUpCircuit,

Ironically, I do not.

DacoTaco, (edited )
@DacoTaco@lemmy.world avatar

Manjaro on my server here, because it was one of the few that bad the linux kernel i needed to support my sbc.
Have i mentioned i use arch btw?

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E, in It happens 🤷

Can’t click on Windows, if have no Windows 😏

AtmaJnana, in Your PC will thank you...

Linux is only free if your time is worth nothing.

bisby,

Windows is only $price if your data and privacy are worth nothing.

Gestrid,

The only thing Linux costs is your soul because you will be configuring and fiddling with it for all eternity.

Honytawk,

… so your time …

Integrate777,

That can be applied to most hobbies in general. Not using an automated coffee machine? Time worth nothing. Cooking rather buying takeout? Building your own pc rather than buying prebuilt? Drawing rather than generating with AI? Time worth nothing, that’s why.

Kanda,

The learning experience gained from the time worth nothing is also worth nothing

Anon124, (edited )

The thing is a PC isn’t a hobby, but a tool for most people.

ninjan, in Just a little bit of trolling...

That sudo might save the poor victims ass if they’re awake enough to wonder “why does it ask for password when I’m just doing ls?”

Otherwise it’s a good lesson in always having backups / easy way to reproduce your setup.

independantiste,
@independantiste@sh.itjust.works avatar

Unless they updated their system with Sudo shortly before

bdonvr,

Pffft who’s not using passwordless sudo anyway

ninjan,

I don’t, after doing the classic rm -r -f / when I meant ./ the second time I realized I’m too much of a dumbass to be allowed to use sudo without password.

voidMainVoid,

I’ve always had a password. One of the biggest benefits of Linux is security. Why would you undermine that by not using a password?

bdonvr,

I do have a password. Sudo is just setup not to ask for it.

On servers of course I use a password for sudo - but on a home machine there’s not much of a point I don’t think. It’s off when I’m not actively using it, and if some attacker or malware has access to my user they already have access to all my important files, or have physical access.

adaveinthelife, in Year of Linux on the Desktop

my boyfriend. He’s running Windows 7

You saint.

Tangent5280,

That man must be packing a monster dong

midnight, in Name em
@midnight@kbin.social avatar

No libs on my system, only leftists allowed 😤😤😤

MilitantAtheist, in Linus does not fuck around

Fucking Mauro.

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/fb3e4be1-5160-469a-a9e4-9cb6e62de87f.jpeg

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/66d687ea-5b26-4e01-96d4-c0f9287c0b20.jpeg

Randomly blaming pulseaudio and opensuse when talking about 100% CPU usage by KDE. It seems yes.

LegumeFest,

Honestly, with this response although I think he didn’t deserve all of that from Linus, he did deserve quite a bit of it. So condescending and smug to application developers that actually make the user experience of Linux a good thing.

Theharpyeagle,

Okay, I agree that this is a really dickish way to respond to a dev, and I can see Torvald’s message being as much an olive branch to app devs as it was a thorough humbling of the maintainer. Still wouldn’t call it professional, but… I get it.

RobertoOberto,

Seeing the rest of the thread really contextualizes Linus’ anger.

Only seeing the message from Linus makes him look like a dick. But when you see that he’s responding to someone deflecting blame and being a shithead to the guy trying to report a problem and provide a suggested fix, the aggressive response seems more justifiable.

uis, (edited )
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. I did not include patch from first person in screenshot because I thought it would make it too boring to read. But it kinda adds even more to context.

Replying to “I get this regression with KDE on this system caused by this commit and here how I fixed it” with “lol, pulseaudio sucks, opensuse sucks” of course will make Linus angry and he will reply not only “no u”, but also “and here’s why”.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar
akatsukilevi, in It's OK if you cry
@akatsukilevi@kbin.social avatar

Am I supposed to have Wifi driver issues? My laptop's one always worked flawlessly without me having to even look at it

cholesterol,

Wi-Fi used to be a pretty common thing to not work out of the box or to break in updates. I kept a usb Wi-Fi dongle in a bag as a backup just because of this.

be_excellent_to_each_other,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

It's a really simple problem to avoid, and IMO has been for years. It's been at least 10 years since I've bought something without intel wifi so maybe I'm out of touch, but I'm kind of astounded there are so many upvotes to the meme.

My rule for a very long time has been: Get something with intel wifi, or even atheros wifi, and you will almost certainly not have a problem. Get broadcom wifi and your problem will directly relate to how much effort your distro has put into trying to make broadcom not be shit. Stay the fuck way from realtek and mediatek.

That's it. I literally can't recall a time since about 2010 when I had a wifi problem with Linux on any device I owned.

I keep two of these in my bag for instant wifi on any device I might happen to be working on that doesn't have it. Most recently popped one into an old desktop I picked up for my youngest son, and have used it previously as a workaround for someone who had a laptop where the onboard wifi worked but would not come back from sleep. (That was broadcom, IIRC)

0x4E4F,

Trust me when I say this, that wasn’t always the case 😔.

doingthestuff, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

All three are shit. You can’t change my mind.

greedytacothief,

They all suck in their own unique way! For me I can tolerate the way Linux sucks, and for others it’s something else. But I think we can all agree that bitching about operating systems is great catharsis.

Acters,

This is why KVM/QEMU with virtio drivers are massively helpful in using windows specific software without needing to dualboot on short notice. Proton also helps run many games on Linux, which is Windows only. Too bad the biggest strength is also a weakness. It’s just a pain to set up and figure out problems that will happen from inexperience

Aasikki,

I can tolerate how windows and Linux suck, but window management (or the lack there of) on macos triggers me.

ricecake,

Mac won’t let me do what I want, and offers no explanation and the forums are filled with people telling me why what I want is wrong.

Windows has a way to do it, but it’s hidden behind 17 menus from 8 eras if UI design, and it just won’t shut the fuck up and listen to me. It has needless animations for everything, and trys so hard to be friendly that it’s just infuriating.

Linux let’s me do the thing. It gives no directions on how to do the thing, and if I do it wrong, it doesn’t even tell me that things are fucked until six months later when I discover I accidentally told it to write the kernel logs to the bootloader and everything is on fire.

I prefer punching myself in the gonads to being called stupid or jerked around, so that’s why I use Linux.

rockandsock,

The sycophants angrily questioning why I want to do something my own way on the equipment I paid for was the most bizarro world thing, I ended up getting rid of that Mac in large part because of that type of attitude on the forums.

Smokeydope, (edited )
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

Filthy enlightened centrist! how dare you not pick a side and point out that all sides are equally terrible in their own special ways!

greedytacothief,

Don’t worry, Linux is still the best. But you have to get people thinking about how they use their operating system before you can get them to see the light.

I’m just playing the long game… I hope.

froop,

Linux sucks for natural reasons. It’s easy to tolerate because it’s not trying to fuck with you, it’s just a consequence of being a hodgepodge of software written by nerds for nerds. Windows sucks for malicious reasons. Microsoft is intentionally making it worse, to make more money, and that pisses me off. MacOS sucks because it assumes you’re an idiot, and wants to protect itself from you. I may be an idiot, but that shouldn’t stop me from breaking my own machine, god damnit!

pipows,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar

I use linux for programming and learn to enjoy everything being 3x harder than needed (Stockholm’s syndrome), but it’s not like it’s good

I use Windows for gaming (I could use linux to do it, but windows is easier), but it’s not like it’s any good

I won’t be paying whatever 4 months worth of my income on a MacBook, so it’s not like it matters if macOS is any good

Garbanzo,

4 months worth of my income on a MacBook

Is it bad that I can’t tell if you’re middle income or just want enough RAM to do something useful?

vivadanang,

I just vomit at the idea that they’re making these laptops with ram soldered in. unupgradable garbage you have to pay ridiculous premiums for.

helpmyusernamewontfi,

bu bu but its “Apple Unifed Memory” and 8GB of that equals to 16GB of regular ram!!1!

vivadanang,

I get that they’re using some fancy mem, it’s not like pc1600 dimms or some shit… BUT not ever being able to yank the old and pop in new? bonkers.

pipows,
@pipows@lemmy.today avatar

I can’t tell if you’re middle income

I’m from Brazil. I didn’t know this term, but quick googling shows me that Brazil is an upper-middle-income country.

I make around R$ 3620 ($740 USD) per month, a more than average income in Brazil. A MacBook Air M2 15" comes for R$ 15000 ($3069 USD).

sheogorath,

Sadly if you’re doing mobile app work Macs are mandatory.

Bytemeister, (edited )

Walled garden starting to look a lot like a padlocked cell…

shekau,

Why?

sheogorath,

Tell me how to make iOS apps on Linux

Scrollone,

Nowadays you can use Expo, if you want to use React Native. They take care of everything, so a Mac isn’t needed anymore

sheogorath,

If your app needs a lot of native modules Expo simply doesn’t cut it. Developing iOS apps without running an iOS simulator is a lot of pain. In my early days of development my team actually tried this. There are too many quirks for each major mobile OS (Android & iOS) that makes it a lot of pain during testing if you don’t at least try to run it on the simulator.

Scrollone,

I agree. It’s not impossible but it’s cumbersome. You at least need an iOS device.

little_hermit,

Downvoters scoff at iPhone users.

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Average BSD user:

unionagainstdhmo,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

You’re right TempleOS is the only perfect OS

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

All non TempleOS users go to hell for rejecting God’s divine salvation.

Smokeydope,
@Smokeydope@lemmy.world avatar

Im willing to bet someone sometime will have the balls to fork templeos and turn it into an actually usable distro on par with bsd, mark my words

XEAL, (edited ) in It's (usually) already installed

You install something that at the core is the same as you but with a better interface.

It’s funny how Microsoft just gave up on creating a new web browser and instead just rebranded someone else’s homework.

ILikeBoobies,

Edge uses less RAM than Chrome

joyjoy,

It’s what they do best, but it usually involves buying a company.

Sanctus,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Edge integrates into M365 far better than Chrome integrates into Google Workspaces. I still use Firefox at work. But its cool for my illiterate users.

Sheeple, in It's (usually) already installed
@Sheeple@lemmy.world avatar

But edge is chrome.

As a former edge user. I now use Firefox.

KISSmyOS,

Edge = Chrome + popup ads for Microsoft services

lud,

Edge actually has a few nice features that chrome and Firefox miss.

Like native horizontal tabs and tab groups (chrome might have groups)

I still refuse to use it over Firefox though.

Klaymore, (edited )
@Klaymore@sh.itjust.works avatar

Firefox has the (officially recommended) Simple Tab Groups addon and a couple different addons for horizontal tabs.

DrM,

It lost a lot of the super-good touchscreen PDF functionality when it switched to chromium though, which I am still mad about. I hope at one point MS will return the PDF Viewer from the original edge

Interstellar_1,
@Interstellar_1@pawb.social avatar

Floorp (A firefox fork) has native horizontal tabs

rambaroo, (edited )

Chrome does have tab groups, but I don’t find them super useful. Automatic grouping by domain would be nice for my usage since I only use chrome at work.

ILikeBoobies,

Edge = Chrome but less ram usage

joyjoy,

Yes. Firefox full time, and Edge for anything that requires Chrome.

Daft_ish, in Can you install thid 25 year old program?

Did everyone forget Chad is a caricature?

RichCaffeineFlavor,

It’s just another rage comic character

Rooskie91,
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