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backhdlp, in usb formatting
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Another advantage of having a NVMe SSD, hard to confuse /dev/nvme0n1p2 with /dev/sda1

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Even if it’s similar names I’d normally plug in USB, do dmesg, then issue a command with latest device name.

bzLem0n,

It’s even easier to prevent confusion if you use /dev/disk/by-id/ id’s, it only took a few times of overwriting the wrong disk to figure that out.

Goodtoknow,
@Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca avatar

How can I figure out which direct device is associated with a specific id?

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

They’re symlinks, so you can just ls -l /dev/disk/by-id, and you can see what is what.

problembasedperson, (edited )

ˋblkidˋ or take a look around /dev, devices are symlinked to their various attributes.

Nithanim,

Not sure if it is equal on all distros but on every one I have used it’s a readable string of muliple components. One of them is “usb” for a usb mass storage, so if it is the only one you have connected to your computer it is very obvious. For like sata disks it has the manufacturer and serial on it so you can match what drive it is you want to write to. Also, the name is pretty unique (on your sysytem at least, globally I don’t know), so even if you swap hardware around, you cannot write to the wrong storage if you got the right name. Like “sdb” can be reassigned, but the id is an id.

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think that does the opposite for me lol

MaliciousKebab, (edited )

When I accidentally decimated my external hard drive, it had NTFS cause there were a few windows machines I would plug it in. Then I reformatted the disk but then I thought to myself, should I have another partition for my Linux machine because that drive gets corrupted and then I need to plug to a Windows machine to repair it once in a while. Then I created an ext4 partition on the disk. Then a few days after I shrinked the NTFS partition and extended the ext4 to the whole disk. Now that disk only has one partition called sda2. Which is kinda weird but makes it easier to distinguish from others disks on the system.

Holzkohlen,

I just make use of my paranoia, so I triple and quadruple check. Then get a coffee and quadruple check again. Never messed up once

backhdlp, in usb formatting
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Fun fact: you can use cat image.iso > /dev/device and it (should) just works.

ExLisper,

Sure, if you’re a little bitch.

mumblerfish,

Yay, more ways to (accidentally) destroy my data!

PoolloverNathan,

Or pv if you want a progress bar.

AffineConnection, (edited )

Assuming /dev/device is not a symbolic link, you might as well


<span style="color:#323232;">cp image.iso /dev/device
</span>
ayaya, (edited ) in Accurate?
@ayaya@lemdro.id avatar

I have been using the same Arch installation for about 8 years. The initial installation/configuration is the only time consuming part. Actual day-to-day usage is extremely easy.

Maybe this is no longer the case but I previously used Ubuntu and it was actually much more annoying in comparison, especially when upgrading between major revisions or needing to track down sources/PPAs for packages not in the main repos. Or just when you want something more up-to-date than what they’re currently shipping.

The rolling release model + the AUR saves so much time and prevents a lot of headaches.

corrupts_absolutely,

had same experience with ubuntu, just outdated packages. outside of two major breaks that were announced beforehand arch has been just fine

tourist,
@tourist@lemmy.world avatar

You may have just sold me on Arch.

I have never been able to hold down an Ubuntu install for very long without getting that dreaded you have held broken packages scold.

thisbenzingring,

You can follow the wiki guide and really have a solid systems that is just yours. That will take some time and can be a little frustrating.

Or use the installer script they have included for a year or more now and get to a working desktop in 20-30 minutes.

But if you feel the need to trim down the scripted version, you can make it just a strong as the step-by-step install in a few hours.

I have used the same step-by-step based on the wiki install since 2016, on my daily driver laptop

SuperIce,

Yeah, I love Arch for the same reasons. Try installing it in a VM and using it a bit, and you’ll see that it’s quite an easy OS to use now.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Same Gentoo installation for last 5 years.

Here’s BTWOS for you:

https://derpicdn.net/img/view/2021/12/9/2761879.png

AlmightySnoo, in The most secure OS named windows
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

That thing literally saved Windows, as most users would otherwise have had to install shitty freeware like Avast or pay for premium antivirus solutions, basically paying to try to close loopholes that Microsoft made in the first place.

AtmaJnana, (edited )

💯

I almost opted to move my parents to use Linux instead of Windows because of how much time I was spending on fixing the malware and viruses they’d get. Then enter Windows Defender.

Now all I have to deal with is when they get the occasional scam call… “Yes, it’s Bob from Microsoft, you need to wire us $900 to fix a virus.”

Honytawk,

Before Defender it was called Microsoft Security Essentials and was a standalone app.

Worked damn good back then as well.

Khalic, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good

So is there a linux circlejerk? Cause you’re just ridiculous with your tribalist shit…

Schmeckinger,

Yeah its called lemmy.

lambda,
@lambda@programming.dev avatar

Yeah, macos is pretty based. I don’t own a Mac product but I have and they were great.

OKRainbowKid,

Based on what?

SRo,

Based on shit

lseif,

bsd

AtmaJnana,

Based on BaSeD. Try and keep up.

lambda,
@lambda@programming.dev avatar
thisfro,

I use both Linux and MacOS. MacOS is pretty good, but it’s also very weird in the Unix world.

mark3748,

“Very weird to the UNIX world”??? It’s the only one that’s actually UNIX.

The only complaints on this entire post are down to people that have no idea what they’re doing. It’s full-on Dunning-Krueger. There are plenty of training wheels, but they are trivial to disable/bypass if needed. People need to get a lot more comfortable with justifying their preferences with “I don’t like it” rather than inventing problems and proving their own ignorance.

Emma_Gold_Man, (edited )

It’s the only one that’s actually UNIX.

Uh, no. I mean, yes it’s actually Unix, but so is BSD. In fact, OSX is only Unix BECAUSE BSD is - Darwin is BSD derived

grue,

Apple paid to license the trademark. The various BSD projects didn’t.

mark3748,

BSD is, FreeBSD and OpenBSD (and every other open-source descendant) are not unix-certified, so they are not. BSD was discontinued in 1995 so I assumed that was not what the meme is referencing.

CapeWearingAeroplane,

I honestly don’t see why, when I’m looking for help on some problem on a mac, I’ll happily open a Linux forum, and throw whatever commands I need into the terminal. Works like a charm every time. Just replace apt with brew or some other reasonable package manager (idk if macports or whatever is actually any decent, never tried it)

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

I tried MacPorts once because I don’t like the name of Homebrew but it’s weirdly slow in comparison

zaphod, in Crash reporting

On MacOS if you click on the “Report…” button it expands to something similar to what you see on the left.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

thanks! never clicked that for fear that they’d do something similar to windows.
I’ll try it next time it comes up.

maybe there should be a third button for less confusion? or does it go against apple’s “design” principles? :p

AnActOfCreation,
@AnActOfCreation@programming.dev avatar

maybe there should be a third button for less confusion?

I think it’s fine as is. Three dots after a button / menu item imply more interaction is required before an action is taken.

zaphod,

To demonstrate I got an app to crash, this is what you see when you click on the report button. The report is longer, trying to show where the app crashed, at the bottom there’s a button to send a report to apple

https://feddit.de/pictrs/image/0d043ab4-1370-4904-957e-8f2327cb4088.png

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

looks much better than what I’d thought. thanks for sharing mate! BTW, the interface is in French, right?

zaphod,

Yes, on the bottom it says on the left to hide the details, and on the right don’t send and send to apple.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

update: doesn’t have button on my machine.
just two buttons: show/hide details, and report. can’t even go back or close it.

screenshot of pop-up after report was clickedsame poou-up, just expanded

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

“Intuitive” design

somenonewho, in An unbiased comparison of linux distributions' setup

I’ll have you know that I eat a vegetarian not vegan diet and I really don’t have a man bun (got no hair for that) … The stickers on the laptop however really felt like you took a photo of my machine.

Also if it wasn’t obvious I run arch

EuroNutellaMan,
@EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world avatar

You eat vegetarians?

camr_on,
@camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

I prefer my meat grass-fed

_cnt0,

The man bun is more of a mental thing. And, hey, I’m a vegetarian too according to the saying “you are what you eat”.

djsaskdja, in Why are gnome devs like this?

I like GNOME. It’s very consistent, has very few bugs, and stays out of my way when I just need to get shit done.

tapep79891,

Good for you

db2,

Me too, I’m using Cinnamon. 😆

dauerstaender,

I got most of my Linux desktop time used KDE but just after switching to Wayland hated it. After every update that fixed some kind of show stopping bug they introduced another one. I then switched to gnome and have been happy ever since, even if I don’t like this whole macOS UX stuff, but it simply works and doesn’t break once you touch it.

juli, in Completely untrue nowadays...

Huh? Linux and printers are the best

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

This wasn’t true *not so long ago.

*Depends on your definition of long 🤷.

Eldritch,

Seriously, one of the best ways to fix printer issues with windows. Is to buy a cheap raspberry pi zero or similar. And stick it in between as a print server. It solves so many random issues for both bad printer, firmwears and fucky windows behaviors

UnityDevice,

My hp printer has worked perfectly and reliably with CUPS for years now. Just turn it on and print, works every time.
Open source print drivers, baby! I still hate CUPS though.

acockworkorange,

Why the CUPS hate?

PropaGandalf, in This truly is the year of the linux desktop

I’m doing my part!

joeyv120,

🫡

JoYo, (edited ) in Distros bad
@JoYo@lemmy.ml avatar

i drink instant coffee because i just dont care anymore.

chromebook user

Agent641, (edited )

Instant coffee is windows, but you pirated it and disabled automatic updates. Cheap, kinda shitty, but it gets the job done.

hglman,

Chromebook is paying for coffee at a coffee shop.

merc,

Nah, Starbucks is MacOS.

It’s more expensive than it needs to be, but it looks really pretty, and fundamentally it’s still coffee, just like MacOS is Unix-based under the hood.

A chromebook is more like a can of coke. It’s caffeinated, has mass-market appeal, but nobody’s going to be spending hours talking about just how great their can of coke is vs. someone else’s can of coke. A high-end chromebook is maybe a glass bottle of Mexican Coke.

SexualPolytope,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

No because then you might get decent coffee sometimes. Chromebook is getting coffee from a 7/11.

Katzastrophe,
@Katzastrophe@feddit.de avatar

Chromebook is the coffee from the coffee machine in my university, which no one ever uses, and no one is certain has ever been cleaned

manwichmakesameal,

US or Japan 7/11? I’m pretty sure they’re different grades of coffee.

marito,

That shit is nasty.

smeg, in It does Sound stupid

GNU wasn’t mistaken for Unix though, it was made as a piece-by-piece foss replacement for all the proprietary Unix tools. Everything about this meme is wrong!

AnUnusualRelic, (edited )
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Absolutely. Gnu was made to be specifically different from Unix which was becoming locked down by AT&T copyrights. Gnu wasn’t Unix, and therefore still isn’t.

platypus_plumba,

I’ll upvote the post only because I want more people to upvote your comment.

CheeseNoodle, (edited ) in So sad when it happens

I want to use linux and will use it when two conditions are met:
-All my work software and the games I play the most all work on it (without requiring me to re-buy shit I already own to get a linux compatable version)
-Its user friendly enough that asking which version I should use as a beginner doesn’t result in all the linux users immediately descending into the thread equivelent of a cartoon fight cloud with random limbs flailing around.

Edit: Some feedback on the feedback:
-Apparently some of the linux versions are super user friendly but advice about this is totally inconsistent, some of the advice doesn’t even actually name a specific version or versions.
-“It all works fine you just need to install thing A through thing B and then use it to run thing C in order to run this one single program from windows” is not as encouraging as you think it is. The thought of potentially going through that for every piece of software is at least for me a big reason for not switching yet and I suspect for a lot of other people too.
-The reference page for what games work on linux is helpful though some things on it only work if you use the steam version which is the precise reason for my not wanting to re-buy things comment.

Edit: Additional question.
Is it mandatory to use the terminal for everything? Everytime I see people talk about linux or look stuff up about it the terminal seems to be everywhere. I’m somewhat familiar with the windows command line (which I assume is the terminals equivelent) but having to use that just to install software (as opposed to just running a .exe) seems really daunting.

flames5123,

Exactly. I have my setup just the way I like it for final fantasy. ACT (a packet capturing DPS meter) doesn’t work without windows. Once that’s supported I may hop ship.

jemikwa, (edited )

If you use plogons (xivlauncher), you can use IINACT as the parsing plugin and either HUDkit for a separate overlay program, or LMeter (this fork that’s still maintained) for a plugin overlay. I use the latter perfectly fine on my Steam Deck and my Linux desktop

flames5123,

Oooo. Thanks! I knew there was an internal one like that. I’ll check it out, and hopefully it works easily for uploading to fflogs.

jemikwa,

Yep, it gives the same logs for uploading. It’s in a different directory, but all the same type of file. And the fflogs uploader is Linux compatible too

ExpertisePredicament,

I haven’t played FFXIV since switching to Linux so I haven’t tested this, but it seems there’s a Dalamud plugin to have the ACT plugin working without having to deal with ACT itself. github.com/marzent/IINACT

nolight, (edited )

If a piece of software requires you to re-buy itself for a different platform why would you use such an application? I don’t get why people choose to torture themselves when there are SO many alternatives to literally anything.

Edit: thanks for the clarification on the re-buying part. Doesn’t apply to you then ʘ‿ʘ

guskikalola,
@guskikalola@vivaldi.net avatar

@nolight @CheeseNoodle I believe one use-case for those licensed paid programs are the business who truly need some trustworthy software and dedicated support. The FOSS might be great for personal use, but maybe LibreOffice doesn't fit every company's needs

nolight,

I agree, though I think LibreOffice is not a great example as there’s very little room for error and something that you would need “dedicated support” for. That’s how I see it anyway. Never worked in an office.

However, the majority of companies that require using paid proprietary software also require the use of Windows itself. A safe bet in this situation would be to just set up a VM for work and use Linux for everything else.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Also an important aspect for companies is liability. If the app they paid money for screws up customer data they have someone on the hook for that. If the FOSS version does the most they have on the hook is the 40 year old dude living in his parent’s basement maintaining the project they used. Not much money to be got there for damages.

Schmeckinger,

Just because there is a “alternative” doesn’t mean its nearly equal in functionality.

nolight,

If treating users like garbage is one of the features I would much rather use less functional software.

Schmeckinger,

Yeah, but a lot of users want something that does exactly what they want without tinkering. Why does everyone in the Linux community project their readiness to tinker forever on the average user.

nolight,

Switching an operating system doesn’t come without tinkering. Even reinstalling an existing installation doesn’t. You have to be ready if you are willing to make a switch.

That said, LibreOffice gives you exactly what you would expect from an office suite. And it doesn’t only apply to office apps. Pretty much every field is already filled with FOSS solutions that “just work”.

Schmeckinger, (edited )

Im not talking about the operating system switch. That is the trivial part. Getting software to run on wine can involve a tinkering. Sure you can run a VM, but then you have 2 operating systems you need to take care of. Also there are a lot of add on’s for proprietary programs that might not run well even if you got the bas program to run. And then if you go through the VM route you might need hardware Passthrough.

All these things are possible for people that want to put the time into it. But the majority of the population doesn’t want to spend time on stuff like this. They would rather pay for the convenience and put up with AD’s.

Take my father for example, he is completely incompetent when it comes to technology. His new PC has Windows 11 and he still plays Solitaire. Which is now plastered with AD’s, but he doesn’t care enough to do something about it.

The average end user just has his priorities somewhere else.

nolight,

I meant to convey my thought in the context of the person above refusing to switch to Linux because of “re-buying stuff” (they’ve already clarified they were talking about games). I do agree that people of little technological literacy wouldn’t be willing to put in the work to get everything working.

My stance on it is that everything comes down to individual situations. I’ve installed Ubuntu on my mother’s laptop and she’s been nothing but happy about it. I just think we shouldn’t gatekeep FOSS and encourage others to use it. Whether to actually try it or not is always up to the end-user.

zalgotext,

Is it mandatory to use the terminal for everything?

No. Most distros have a GUI that you can use to install stuff without touching the terminal, and most distros have a GUI for configuring your system (think Control Panel in Windows).

It’s not necessary to use the terminal, but I do recommend eventually learning how to use the terminal, for a couple reasons:

  1. It’s more ubiquitous - like you said, a lot of places online give terminal instructions, not GUI instructions for things, so knowing your way around the terminal is helpful in those situations. Plus, it makes things a little more distro-agnostic - if I’m trying to install some program, I know I can probably run apt install regardless of whether I’m running Mint, Ubuntu, PopOS, or any other Debian-based distro that uses the apt package manager.
  2. It’s usually faster. Opening a terminal window and typing in a few dozen characters is usually going to take less time than digging through a couple layers of menus.
  3. It’s more flexible. A lot of times, GUIs are just fronts for a terminal based application, and sometimes they only partially implement the features the terminal app exposes. By using the terminal app directly, you aren’t limited by whatever options happen to be made available in the GUI.

Again though, it’s not necessary to use the terminal. It’s definitely helpful, especially if you want to do gaming, or if you’re used to being a power user (which it seems like you are in Windows), but certainly not a requirement these days.

teichflamme,

My experience is that you don’t need the terminal as long as everything is running fine and you don’t want to do stuff outside the standard repos.

But my experience is also that something will break and you’re back to fiddling around in the terminal for hours

Sanyanov,

On the second point: pick whatever you like, distros are surprisingly similar and differ in technical details you might not even care about.

Oh, and don’t go for Gentoo. Gentoo is great and has its place, but person with a healthy brain won’t run this on desktop.

neshura,
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Distros being so similar is the entire reason why the comments about which is best for beginners usually descend into a mud slinging contest. Honestly most “popular” distros are perfectly reasonable for any beginner nowadays. But there is just so much choice it creates decision paralysis in people wanting to switch.

Sanyanov, (edited )

Yeah, distro variety is a block for adoption, but when you do adopt Linux, you understand why they’re there.

Good thing community starts to center on a few distros for beginners, particularly Linux Mint + 1 or 2 more. (I’m a Manjaro adept, but ready to bury the hatchet to welcome newbies, and always do recommend Mint - it is good too)

CaptKoala,

New Mint user here, it’s dope and I love it. Windows soon to be VM.

Sanyanov,

Congrats! One more person opened their eyes to freedom!

When you come to Linux, you never want back.

CaptKoala, (edited )

I’ve been experiencing Windows’ degredation since 98/XP, it’s been an extremely smooth transition from Windows 10 to Linux Mint.

Still working out the kinks with my game library but apart from new user errors it’s worked flawlessly (unlike Win10).

Thank you Lemmings for showing me to the light!

Edit/TLDR: it’s kinda like windows, but functional and user control is king.

Sanyanov,

That’s the best TLDR you could give at the end.

Generally UI and feeling are “Windows, but without BS”

CaptKoala,

100% on the TLDR there, I’ll edit as such, that comment is open source ;)

I’ve been running Ubuntu on a separate machine for a little while now, and it works great, just not a good fit for me.

I’m happy to say within 2 weeks of my dual boot I’m already on mint 90% of the time. It just fucking works. (Without waking me up at 2-4am sending the fans to mach 7 for a damn windows update).

AlecSadler,

For me it’s…

  • Visual Studio Enterprise (VS Code with a hundred plugins still doesn’t come close)
  • SQL Server Management Studio (though with extensions, Azure Data Studio has gotten me pretty damn close)
  • Full-featured Office 365 software (Edge web versions are somewhat sufficient, but not quite there)
  • Teams with multi-tenant. The desktop Windows app lets me quickly switch between the 6 orgs I need to, unfortunately on Linux I have to have 6 different browser profiles and use the web version which just doesn’t fly.
  • More responsive RDP. Unfortunately for server management I’m juggling 3-4 RDP instances daily and I’m not typically allowed to install AnyDesk or VNC or anything. I’ve tried a couple RDP alternatives and there were just all sorts of problems from keyboard issues to rendering issues to general sluggishness.
  • There is one weird VPN program a job forces me to run and unfortunately it isn’t available on Linux.

But! All the above said, I run Linux and have a Windows VM. And I also run Windows and have a Linux VM - so it’s almost there for me. If work & clients all ditched Microsoft’s ecosystem, it’d be a lot easier for me to but, unfortunately, they pay my bills.

neshura, (edited )
@neshura@bookwormstory.social avatar

Teams with multi-tenant. The desktop Windows app lets me quickly switch between the 6 orgs I need to, unfortunately on Linux I have to have 6 different browser profiles and use the web version which just doesn’t fly.

Probably never gonna happen because Microsoft has an active interest in making it not happen

There is one weird VPN program a job forces me to run and unfortunately it isn’t available on Linux.

Knowing the VPN I’m forced to use I’ll just make a blind guess that the VPN you’re forced to use doesn’t support IPv6 either, because actually providing a product instead of an overpriced relic apparently is really difficult for Enterprise VPN Companies.

Cethin, (edited )

For the last bit, that shouldn’t be a problem. It’s like going to an ice cream shop and complaining there are too many flavors and people arguing over which flavor is best makes you decide to just not get ice cream.

What you should do instead is look at the flavors of ice cream and weigh what you want with what each flavor is. Only you know what you desire. Windows wants to make their system work for everyone, so then it works for no one because everyone has different wants and needs. It’s the ice cream flavor of them shoving every ingredient together and it just creates a mess.

As for games, it’s pretty good now. There’s the issue of some multiplayer games not having updated their anti-cheat, but a lot of anti-cheat is ready. Easy anti-cheat, for example, is fine if the devs have updated it and implemented it. However, it’s not like Proton where it makes most things work without devs doing any work. Check ProtonDB for compatibility.

What work software do you need? There are alternatives for MS Office, including online versions of MS Office that don’t require an OS. Blender is great. There are plenty of code editors. Most of the alternatives are also FOSS so don’t require buying anything, though donating is encouraged.

CaptKoala,

I’ve had similar thoughts and sentiments in my (short) Linux journey, my only advice is to distro-hop a bit as many Lemmings preach, find your fit (in VM/live mode or separate machine) and dive right in.

Side effects may include hair loss in early introduction, stick with it, it’s worth it.

aes, (edited )

man reading this was like seeing someone kidnap a mcdonald’s employee and expecting the execs to pay ransom

zalgotext,

What games do you play? If you’re playing through steam, you can search protondb.com for your games to see how playable they are on Linux.

Galds,

The first condition already are In practice tru proton and wine (even the principal anticheat work). But the second is probably impossible, people will try to convince you to use the distros that they believe is good

Saying that, Linux mind is a good option for a Windows user

TimeNaan,

Having an opinionated and somewhat socially inept userbase doesn’t mean the OS isn’t user-friendly.

There are many linux distros that focus on being user friendly and they really are.

dual_sport_dork,
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world avatar

And we’ll fight to the death to decide which ones those are!

Ziglin,

Oi, but I do agree.

ook_the_librarian,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

I second that. The friendliness of the main help forum(s) for the distro is what’s really the key, moreso than the software itself.

charliespider, (edited )

somewhat socially inept userbase

I’m way more socially inept than just somewhat

rikudou, in Text editor war
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

As a nano user, I fully agree.

damnthefilibuster,

Seriously. Nano is the best.

Norgur,

I
Seriously... it isn't
Shift+ZZ

agent_flounder, (edited )
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

vi comment

o right there with ya bud.esc :wq!

GodsKillerKirb,

I HATE that I am still in the habbit of doing esc :wq whenever I want, or need, to save and quit.

konalt, in happy 1_700_000_000 everyone!
@konalt@lemmy.world avatar

Cutting it a bit close there.

lemmesay,
@lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

yes lol. became anxious fearing I’d miss it and hence made typos :')

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