Based on the prices the Apollo dev was slinging around, I highly doubt Relay will be around even after this guy "figures out" what to charge his users. Unless he's aiming for whales with deep pockets I give it maybe 3-6 months before he also folds. Reddit can also easily move the goal post on Relay, which is inevitable, because Reddit wants people to use thier app.
This is what I'm thinking too. Narwhal is sticking around but once Narwhal 2 comes out it'll be $5-7 per month and more for a user who makes a lot of API calls. If I'm remembering correctly Christian figured it would be close to $10 per month to support Apollo's heavy users without going in the red. That's crazy money to pay for access to Reddit.
Exactly. I want to be empathetic to the dev, after all /u/Spez put them in an awful position. But scabbing for Reddit isn't going to end well. Better to accept that the blow has been dealt, and to move onto the next platform and/or project.
TL;DR consensus is mostly karma is the source of quite a number of problems on Reddit and many people are comfortable with not having them back. There are positives, but the system has to be reworked for it to really work to any capacity that doesn't negatively affect the platform.
Personally, I don't look at karma. I barely even checked other people's user page and I only went on my own page to look for my previous comments.
It stopped about 2200 US eastern time for me...at least that's when I noticed it. I uninstalled and then deleted my Reddit account. I'm all in on the fediverse!
The idea of paying a monthly subscription to use reddit is so off-putting. Maybe if it were a company that I didn't feel so negatively about, I'd consider it.
Some subreddits require a certain level of karma to be able to post or reply to comments. I don't know if that was to help against bots or people who would make an account to avoid a ban or something. Other than that karma was just an ego boost for those who cared about such things.
Yes, it was great protection against spam accounts, b/c on day 1 they would start with nothing, and have to actively earn karma before they could switch to selling t-shirts or promote OF sites or whatever. Every little bit helps in the efforts to combat simply spinning up a thousand of those and be able to instantly spam whatever sub(s) you wanted.
Karma (especially comment karma) is useful to indicate someone makes positive contributions, but once you’re above a few hundred it doesn’t really make a difference. I do wonder if it makes Reddit worse though, because it incentivises low effort comments and content to get easy karma.
I used the top karma holders lists to remove their posts from my feed since it was usually people posting the same thing in multiple subs. I would often have only a few posts before the marker for page 2 would show up.
I think everybody checked the own posts for the karma they got for it. So I think it plays a huge role. Of course some people go too far and make it the only thing that matters about it. I won't miss those people.
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