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Levetamae, in Welcome Newbies!

This was very helpful. Thanks.

abff08f4813c, in My Reddit GDPR Request took 20 days, this is what it looks like

shreddit does this - both the $15 shreddit.com and the free scripts available from github

shreddit does use the API tho, something to keep in mind.

FYI we are tracking GDPR request timelines: https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/50981/Reddit-Data-Retrieval-Request-timeline-thread

PabloDiscobar,
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But the API won't be open to us forever, right? I thought that it would close today.

Untitled_Pribor,

The api is still open, but you can't exceed 100 per minute per "Reddit app" unless you pay. So if you want to delete your entire post/comment history, you'll need to Register a new app and it will take some time to delete everything. At least that's how I understand it.

abff08f4813c, (edited )

The thing that worries about this is that tools like github shreddit may not be designed to rate-limit themselves to no more than 100 api calls per minute yet so someone who uses this tool today or after while trying to leave reddit mistakenly ends up owning reddit quite a bit of money. shreddit.com is safer i think as you aren't using your own api key - so the company behind the website is on the hook if they fail to make the adjustment. That's why it was so important to get your archive before the API changes, that way you could erase or overwrite with peace of mind. Alas the builtin 30 days and the timing of the announcement meant that in theory almost no one would get it in time. Since June has 30 days, someone who requested immediately after the pricing announcement on May 31 would just get it the day before at latest (just yesterday).

PabloDiscobar,
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100 per minute is faster than the speed at which I deleted my history. So I guess we can still help people deleting their history.

I used the archive which is shared around and extracted my posts to get the id of my comments and deleted those, like 30 per minute. But I guess that if we rebuild a database with the author as a key then we can pretty quickly return a list of id's based on an author. Then the user can feed this list to a python script by himself and delete himself.

What I couldn't do in time is edit the posts as I ran in some weird index errors that I couldn't bypass.

adonis, in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?
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I was a karma-whore, now that Reddit is dead, I'm just a slut.

W1ldW1ngs,
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here's an extra up doot

Motecuhzoma,

Here, have some internet points you slut

adonis,
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ohh yeaaaah.... mhhhmmm... grlgrlgrlgrlgrl

delirium, (edited ) in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?

when I used imgur, before I was active on Reddit, I loved getting upvotes. but on Reddit, it seemed like a bit more of a slog and it wasn't immediately visible, so pretty unimportant to me.

ThrowawayPermanente, in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?

It should be used only to determine in which order posts and comments are displayed.

djmarcone, in You will be missed, RIF. o7

Rif kept working throughout a lot of the day yesterday but I finally had a minute yesterday evening, very late, and sat down and launched the app... It worked for a few moments but alas that was only the cached posts. Soon it stopped, for good.

It was very sad uninstalling rif, I can't fathom the obscene amount of hours spent using it, endlessly scrolling my carefully curated subs, be it while pooping, waiting for someone, watching something dumb, or in the middle of the night unable to sleep.

Sigh.

Hey, there's lots of nice people and good magazines and fewer bots and trolls over here, so we'll all be fine.

I'm fine.

Snif.

Crankpork, in Relay for Reddit is continuing as a subscription service

I assume that once it's a subscription service most of that money will be going to Reddit, so you'd basically be paying for the privilege of not having to use their official app. That's just ghoulish.

snooggums, in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?
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Karma was pointless. Just checked and apparently I ended up with 340k+ comment karma which was mostly repeating memes and reddit inside jokes and a few rants about Republicans. Posts that I thought had value tended to be downvoted (opinions of running role playing games).

The number doesn't mean anything and nothing of value was lost when I edited or deleted all of my reddit posts as most everything I posted also exists from other posts I have made on forums over the decades.

So in a roundabout way, karma was pointless and I hope it doesn't end up being a thing here.

Spiritreader,
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I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't say it was pointless as a whole. Maybe it's because I'm looking at it from a slightly different perspective.

Karma did help push engagement, in fact, the system worked.
People cared about this number, and started to optimize their behavior such that they receive the largest amount of karma in the shortest time.
Since being active by posting / commenting facilitated getting karma, it helped produce a lot of content and made people interact with each other.

The problem with that is that it wasn't tied to quality (and couldn't be). As you said, that encouraged regurgitating the same meta over and over. It never incentivized good content, just quantity.

So my conclusion would be more like: Karma was pointless for animating users to create good and thoughtful content.
Instead it helped driving engagement forward, but at the cost of somewhat turning people into bots.

Posts receiving upvotes / downvotes is okay, but I'm not sure in what way reputation - or karma - should be displayed for a user account, publicly or privately.

Elevator7009, in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?

I found it really hard to believe people would care that much about karma to the point that I never really believed most accusations of “karmawhore.” Because who would care that much? You just don’t like this kind of content that got popular. I totally believed a few individuals would optimize their posts and comments for the most upvotes, but not nearly enough to justify how often I heard that accusation flung around. Sure, it feels nice to see that other people like your comment. And it’s nice to have the voting system so incorrect information, spam, and trolls get downvoted and thus hidden; while theoretically the helpful and insightful comments rise to the top (and at least in the subs I used, this is how it also worked in practice, although judging by all the complaining about Reddit I see here it wasn’t true for a lot of other peoples’s subs). And of course you will want to get your karma past the common thresholds for not getting your post removed for being a new, low-karma account. But otherwise, what does it really matter?

BlondieBuff,

There were a lot of attention-seeking people on reddit who weren't necessarily trying to get karma. It just happened that karma was the measure of the attention you were getting, so being a "karmawhore" was a side effect of wanting attention.

kestrel7, in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?
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But! You could exchange it for stuff at the reddit store!! /s

root_beer, in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?
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It was important enough for karma-farming bots to exist for some reason, I dunno. I'm glad it's not really a thing here, it was especially frustrating to see the occasional innocuous comment be downvoted for some inexplicable reason.

livus, (edited )
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It's to get around thresholds.

The bot accounts were mostly about to be sold on third party websites or used for scams.

root_beer,
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Ah, yeah, forgot about that. So yeah, karma matters to some people very much.

SpacemanSpiff, in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?
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@writeblankspace

I agree, I have no idea how much karma I had on my account and I never looked or paid attention.

I’ve never been sure if all the chatter about it is people actually caring, or if it was always mostly a joke.

MarvinKMooney, in Farewell Baconreader. It's been a wonderful 11 years.
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Yea I get that. I had a 14 year old account. It really did change and was not the site I loved in the beginning. It was getting really toxic the last few years.

HandsHurtLoL, (edited ) in Did Karma really matter that much in Reddit?

Okay, it appears that I'm going to be the only dissenting opinion here.

The discussion around karma here is all centered on the SFW side of reddit, it appears. I used to operate on the NSFW side of reddit to find sexual partners. After I would make a post explaining the kind of connection I wanted to make, I would get like 150 offers over the course of 3 days, both over direct messages (orangered inbox) and chat requests (chattit).

I would only respond to users who had any sort of karma, post history, or more than just a few months on their account. My thought process was that I don't want to meet people who are 100% lurkers, I would favor people who had comment histories on normal subs and were contributing members in those communities (gave me hope they would be interesting conversationalists on the date), and I wanted to see some longevity in the account so that there was a clear sense of the decorum of old reddit versus all the sally-come-lately users.

ETA: I suspect that I was getting so many offers because I myself had made several submissions (lending to my own non-zero karma score) both text and photo and I had a long-standing account. I think I would have been viewed skeptically by everyone if my account was 3 days old and I had zero content, but was trawling for sex. That's how men show up with 2 kidneys but leave with 1 in the morning.

akai, in Relay for Reddit is continuing as a subscription service
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I loved Relay and I really wish the dev the best, but I won't continue using it and Reddit because the underlying issue remains. Reddit admin is rotten.

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