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Gamoc, in Huge ancient city found in the Amazon

Headline: “huge ancient city”

Article: “mounds”

Microw,

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Thats what happens to a city taken back by nature and lying undisturbed for 500+ years… there is a reason why the only preserved Roman ruin cities are in the Sahara or next to the Mount Vesuvius

Agent641,

Jungle is the absolute worst place for preserving an ancient city.

Gamoc,

Yeah it’s not really their fault I guess, “huge ancient city” just conjured images of ruined buildings and stuff, that’s all. Made me laugh

Anticorp,

They’re there, under 500 years worth of dirt.

Lophostemon, in Their Civilization—Whose Archaeology?

The issue is the fragility of religious nation-states vs their ancient artefacts. If (say) the UK is happy to protect ancient artefacts against insane religious zealots of X country against destruction of XYZ, the I’m 100% behind the UK.

Tatar_Nobility,

I am sure the United Kingdom, among others, may indeed be happy to steal other cultures’ artefacts, in deviation of international treaties.

Kolanaki, in Huge ancient city found in the Amazon
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I know those fulfilment centers are big, but I wouldn’t expect them to be so big you could lose an entire ancient city in one. 🤔

thefartographer,

This is prime humor

acockworkorange, in Medieval belt buckle of 'dragon' eating frog discovered in Czech Republic may be from unknown pagan cult

How does a buckle like that work? What part buckles the belt in place?

TheOakTree,

The holes at the bottom were probably tacked into a strip of leather and secured, and I’d imagine there’s some sort of stud or hook on the backside of the buckle.

Catoblepas, in Medieval belt buckle of 'dragon' eating frog discovered in Czech Republic may be from unknown pagan cult

They say devouring a frog, I say biting a dude’s nuts off.

For real though, what a neat buckle. Since they think it was related to an unknown pagan cult, I wonder what the purpose of wearing the symbol on the belt was? For others to see you were part of the cult (assuming it was worn visibly)?

GlitchyDigiBun,
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Could it not just be a war trophy? The frog representing some “barbaric hoard” that the great dragon king put down? What is it that makes it pagan besides the lack of a cross?

DuckBilledMongoose, in Giant naked hill figure revealed as Hercules—and he aided medieval armies

I can’t go to battle without an erection

doppelgangmember,

Hmm… not big enough.

Redo it

ekZepp, (edited )
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Battle Wood

Tugboater203, in Giant naked hill figure revealed as Hercules—and he aided medieval armies
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He....uh.... looks happy to see us

intensely_human,

His nipples look confused

I_am_10_squirrels,

Heracles is the best hero. He’s out standing in his field.

I_Has_A_Hat, in Many prehistoric handprints show a finger missing. What if this was not accidental?

No God damn way is it an intentional body mod. If it were, the pinky would not be the digit chosen.

Grip strength.

If you lose your pinky, you lose almost half your fucking grip strength. And as something like grip strength is pretty fucking important for a hunter-gatherer society, I’d be shocked if they were just lobbing off pinkies for the hell of it.

Xatolos,
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All the images in the article are showing that the hand with missing fingers is the left hand. Most people are right handed, so missing a left finger for most people wouldn’t hurt the grip strength of a one handed weapon/tool much in the main (right) hand. You could attach something like a shield strapped to your left arm and wouldn’t notice the issue for hunter gathering then. (Shields aren’t just for defense against claws, they can also be a bashing tool.)

Now, I doubt they were cutting off a pinky finger because they were bored on a Saturday night, but there could have been religious/group beliefs involved. Body modification has been around for a very long time, from as simple of scarification, to tattoos and piercings, to removal of body parts (circumcision), so it isn’t out of the realm of possibilities.

MaxVoltage, (edited )
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Archers do this intentionally for skill bonus

This was not religious. It was cool hunter things

vivadanang,

Archers do this intentionally for skill bonus

can you explain or link to some kind of attribution for this assessment? I don’t know enough about archery to understand how it would help.

PrinceWith999Enemies,

I think the civilizations they’re looking at were about 20k years before shields started being used.

Kolanaki, in Neanderthals lived in groups big enough to eat giant elephants
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We now live in such large groups, a single giant elephant wouldn’t be enough.

Kbobabob,

I live in a group of two. I’m not responsible for anyone else.

BradleyUffner, in Many prehistoric handprints show a finger missing. What if this was not accidental?

Or we’ve evolved another finger since then! 😁

cholesterol,

Fossil record says no

jordanlund, in Many prehistoric handprints show a finger missing. What if this was not accidental?
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OR - now bear with me here… OR one or more fingers were curled under when the tracing was made for reasons we can’t comprehend.

Maybe it was some ancient numbering system, or an attempt at a calendar. There’s really no way to know.

its_prolly_fine,

Or my favorite is it’s the equivalent to the middle finger.

fmstrat,

Ancient live long and prosper.

snooggums, in Many prehistoric handprints show a finger missing. What if this was not accidental?
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Hands are actually pretty easy to injure, and modern medicine is the reason most of us get to keep them all our lives. I've known enough farmers and construction workers who are missing digits to assume a significant number are likely to be from injury in agricultural or hunting contexts. Frostbite would be another easy source of injury depending on climate.

While I could see a possible religious practice coming out of reverence for injured hands contributing too, this seems like the age old archeology practice of assuming anything is intentionally done for religious reasons if they don't have a neat and tidy singular explanation.

Uranium3006,
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Yeah it's more likely it was a realistic depiction of real life where people would be randomly missing some fingers

ZombiFrancis, in Many prehistoric handprints show a finger missing. What if this was not accidental?

I think it is a relatively new phenomena where it isn’t a regular thing to lose a portion of a digit.

Also in a similar level of inquiry these researchers are engaging in: the guy who lost a finger wrestling a coyote is also likely to be the one to tell that story.

“Oh no middle finger guy? Yeah I know that story. It was coming right at him.”

Devi,

I used to work at a zoo and a lot of the older keepers had a finger or part missing to some animal or another back when health and safety was less, used to be common in factories too, Tony Iommi lost bits in a factory and has spoken about how it wasn't that unusual.

zeppo, in Many prehistoric handprints show a finger missing. What if this was not accidental?
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

The evidence: maybe!!

ladicius,

The evidence: Made up!

WaDef7,

To be fair when it comes to this kind of research comparison with modern hunter gatherer societies is the closest thing you can find to evidence, some things never enter the archaeological record.

Perhaps we'll never find conclusive evidence pointing to any one of the theories on these missing-finger handprints.

zeppo, (edited )
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Right. With no written documentation or known modern descendants of the culture, it’s all speculation. I don’t know why they’d leap to conclude it was intentional religious sacrifice vs. accidents or amputations following injury.

FireTower, in Many prehistoric handprints show a finger missing. What if this was not accidental?
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The frostbite theory sounds more reasonable to me.

ashar,
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A family friend sacrificed part of her finger as a child. This was as a Hindu, and happened in the Indus river.

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