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josephsh98, in Why is youtube recommending conservative "talking points" to me?

You most probably viewed these types of videos a few times and the algorithm started recommending them to you. It only takes a couple of videos for the algorithm to start recommending video of the same topic. You could easily solve this by clicking on the 3 dots next to the video and then selecting “Not interested”, do it enough times and they’ll be gone from your feed.

phorq, (edited )

Yeah, I get those too. Am always a little surprised, but I’ll be honest I’m interested in knowing what the other bubble is telling themselves… If it gets to be too much I’ll click not interested, but right now it’s just a bizarre break in my feed.

Edit: Just remembered this quote that fits “I’m fascinated by trash TV. The poet must not avert his eyes” - Werner Herzog

FiftyShadesOfMyCow,

This is the way

Lemmylefty, (edited )
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I don’t know how much a Not Interested designation does. I’ve done that for channels where I don’t want to see THAT video, but still like the channel in general.

What I do is just block the channel: if this is what the channel wants to espouse then I’ll do better by eliminating it entirely.

Hnazant,

My shorts is the worst. Regular seems fine. Especially the pods dunking on women. “So who should pay on the first date?”…

Viper_NZ,

I am constantly bombarded with Jordan Peterson videos despite disliking them and telling the algorithm to show less like this.

I’m not sure how it profiles people, but it sucks.

BarrelAgedBoredom,

Go into your watch history and remove them after disliking it. I find removing stuff from my watch history to have a bigger impact over disliking stuff. You can also have YouTube stop recommending specific channels to you. Odds are if they’re posting Jordan Peterson content, you’re not missing anything of value by blocking them

Viper_NZ,

The thing is I’m not sure what I’ve watched that’s triggering the JP spam.

Maybe I need to just nuke my entire history and start again.

med,

If you leave youtube/close the app everytime Jordan Peterson opens his big mouth, the algorithm will get the idea quick enough

can,

Disliking is engagement. Instead tap the three dots and select “not interested”

Viper_NZ,

I’ve been doing that too

Max_P,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

This, the algorithm doesn’t care whether you like enjoy it or not, it cares whether you engage with it or not. Even dislikes are engagement.

Eldritch,

You don’t even have to watch those types of videos. I got watching Star Trek lore videos etc. And got off on to one channel in particular. Whose videos always ended up devolving into rants against SJW and leftists. This from someone who posts lore videos on a show about luxury gay space communism. But simply because of apparently a large portion of his viewership also engages with the bigotry and hatred. I started getting tons of recommendations for shit that I have never watched and would never watch.

But yes Mark not interested and delete from history was the best way to get it out.

jballs, in Why is youtube recommending conservative "talking points" to me?
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can see what Google (thinks it) knows about you.

  • Go to your Google Account (myaccount.google.com)
  • Manage your Google Account
  • Select Privacy and personalisation.
  • Under this Data & privacy page you’ll find History Settings, Ad Settings, and more.
  • For example, go to Ad Settings and click on Ad Personalization.
  • Now you’ll see How your ads are personalized.

I think you can even remove stuff if you want.

maniajack, in Why is youtube recommending conservative "talking points" to me?

I’ll see major swings in the algorithm from time to time (a week of bass guitar video recommendations for some reason), but I can usually trace back a video or two that I watched that it just decided to try and cram the topic down my throat. I would just say make sure you keep avoiding the conservative vids to try and get the recommendations to stop. I wonder if maybe one of your kids is watching videos on your account and skewing it?

harmonea,
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(a week of bass guitar video recommendations for some reason)

Sometimes I wish youtube's algorithm were sentient so I could shake it and ask why the fuck--

For me it was a week of growing your own backyard basil. Not herb gardens, not vegetables, not self-sufficiency in general. Literally just basil. I don't even own a single plant.

NightOwl,

It can also be linked based where it recommends videos that conservatives have enjoyed that seem unrelated. Like maybe watching home improvement videos and historical war videos then the algorithm feeding new content that seems unrelated but actually is according to it, since it’s trying to expose you to new interests to expand the time you spend there.

Best I found is just not using YouTube with an account and having cookies cleared on exit, or using newpipe (Android) and freetube (desktop) which let’s you have an accountless subscription feed with Adblock and sponsorblock support.

ktpossible, in What's your favorite rabbit hole to go down?

I like to google the cast of whatever tv show/movie I’m watching and look at their Wikipedia page.

Lemmylefty, in What are the most appropriate responses to some very uncomfortable and awkward questions?
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“How’s the job search coming?” is usually meant to be encouraging, but it can feel like a stab in the back if you read it as “still unemployed, huh?”

What can help is to approach this from a “seen any job opening that piques your interest?” view. Think of 2-3 positions, locations, etc., that you can talk about with some interest. Maybe you’ve never worked in that field, so you tell the person that you hadn’t considered it before and what might draw your interest, or there’s an opening in a city/place you’ve never been and you can talk about that. Most people aren’t looking for the spiel, so this satisfies them without embarrassing either of you.

This doubles as practicing interview questions (“why do you want this job?”) that you’ll need in the future, anyways.

orientalsniper, in I'm being harassed by mosquitoes, how do i kill them all?

Get a spray bottle, put alcohol in it, it will always hit one.

darkstar,

Does this actually work?

orientalsniper,

It does, especially on hot days when they all come for me. Get a good bottle spray tho.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
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mancy, in Dilemma with contributing to niche Communities on Instances federating with Threads
@mancy@lemmy.ca avatar

Please ELI5 for idiots like me. What’s the problem now with lemmy.world?

tenth,

They will federate with Threads. If I continue posting on lemmy.world, Threads will benefit from it and Threads users would never join Lemmy because they could subscribe to our communities. But I also don’t want to split my niche communities

Contramuffin,

To be clear, lemmy.world isn’t federating with Threads. They’re taking the wait-and-see approach, which means that they’ll make that decision later.

I’m not happy with that decision, but it is distinctly different from saying that they will federate with Threads.

tenth,

According to Lemmy documentation, if they don’t block a server, it means they are federating (aka talking using ActivityPub protocol) with that server.

Lemmy has three types of federation:

  • Allowlist: Explicitly list instances to connect to.
  • BlockList: Explicitly list instances to not connect to. Federation is open to all other instances.
  • Open: Federate with all potential instances.

Federation is enabled by default.

It means Meta could in theory talking right now with instances not blocking them as part of their testing.

I don’t know why they could not just block in the first place, then unblock/allow later if it makes sense.

ritswd,

Hm, my understanding from Lemmy.world’s post was “guys, we’re years away from it if it ever happens, maybe we should chill until we learn more?”

My personal bet is that Threads will never actually implement ActivityPub anyway. The announcement of it sounds great for shareholders to see a differentiation with Twitter on the short term, but making it really has so many uncontrollable scale hurdles that I’d bet it will be given up before it’s real.

But whether my guess is correct or not, Lemmy.world admin’s point is factually correct: right now, this whole thing is just a lot of hot air.

(Also, I’m intrigued, I think you might be the only person, when moving instance out of disagreement with an admin, to join one where the admins are known to be Uyghur genocide deniers and pro-North-Korea. With the point of Lemmy to have very diverse viewpoints, obviously that’s all your choice and you should be where you think you should be, but of all instances out there to join to seek alignment with admins, I wouldn’t have thought Lemmy.ml would be one people would turn to a lot, since it’s been controversial exactly for that, and there are many many others. Heh, you do you.)

tenth,

the admins are known to be Uyghur genocide deniers and pro-North-Korea

Do you have a link for this? I want to read it. I picked lemmy.ml because it was used by Memmy app community, has decent userbase, and they block threads.net. This is the description on join-lemmy.org/instances : “A community of privacy and FOSS enthusiasts, run by Lemmy’s developers

my understanding from Lemmy.world’s post was “guys, we’re years away from it if it ever happens, maybe we should chill until we learn more?”

Did they post their official’s stance on it? All I saw was a post by ruud, the instance owner on Mastodon

As I explained in another comment, if they don’t block a server, they are federating with it. Meta could be testing as we speak

ritswd,

Yeah, I initially thought it was a rumor, but then I was shown the receipts, and unfortunately it’s true: lemmy.world/comment/562635 It is really disappointing…

About the Lemmy.world situation, here’s where I draw my understanding from: lemmy.world/post/1274909 Meta said they wouldn’t even start looking at it before being at 1 billion users, so they are not going to be testing anything any time soon; which is also why I’m not buying too strongly that they actually intend to do it. I commented on the post with my thinking. Once they’re that far along (if they even get there), they will have proven their currently implemented strategy, that they don’t actually need to federate with anything to do the Twitter-but-better that they clearly set out to do. I’m totally guessing though so I could be wrong.

tenth,

Meta started working with ActivityPub working group already

lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/…/0032.html

ritswd,

So, they’re spiking on it, which isn’t particularly surprising at this stage. In fact they have to since they’re a public company, they can’t make announcements that they’re spending R&D on something, and not spend it, that would be SEC fraud. I’m still not buying that it’s in their interest enough that they would actually put it out there. This feels like such a heavy engineering lift, for little upside besides the compelling differentiation story to tell.

Also, based on their communications so far, they mean to federate with Mastodon, but they don’t care much about Lemmy. Which makes sense, their shareholders have massively heard of Mastodon, but not Lemmy. Even if they release something, I bet it will be federation with some specific Mastodon servers that they know will treat them well.

Maybe I’m wrong, that’s completely possible. If they start federating with Lemmy.world, I’m squarely in the “then we should defederate now” camp. But at this point this feels like so much hot air and speculation, that I’m not even sure why it’s being talked about so much.

tenth, (edited )

I am sure they will come after reddit next :)

Edit: regarding people’s interest in this, many projects/people have been burnt before by megacorps so its definitely worth having our guard up to anticipate what might happen in the future

Zoldyck, in Dilemma with contributing to niche Communities on Instances federating with Threads

Sorry but: TLDR

tenth, (edited )

I thought I made my question clear

Should I continue contributing to my niche communities on Instances I do not share my view with, or build similar communities on other Instances?

For example runeterra community only exists on lemmy.world, but I don’t want to post on lemmy.world anymore, because I don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments. I want people to come to Lemmy.

Should I create a new runeterra community lemmy.ml instead (lemmy.ml blocks Threads)? What would you do?

AletheCrow, in Dilemma with contributing to niche Communities on Instances federating with Threads
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There’s a really big difference though between communities splitting off Reddit and split from an instance here. I still have my Lemmy.world account but I’m defaulting now to this one. Lemmy.world is a great starting point for people to branch from and pick from there.

You can still access your communities without visiting the instance.

tenth,

I totally get that but I want to grow Lemmy and want users to join Lemmy. They won’t if they could just subscribe to our communities. Plus I don’t want threads to benefit from my content if I post to instances federating with Threads

bady, in multiple identities, but it's me!
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Pixelfed is going to introduce such a feature soon: mastodon.social/@pixelfed/110683611384204420

Nemo, in Dilemma with contributing to niche Communities on Instances federating with Threads

What are you even talking about, here?

Thavron, in What would happen if your surgeon just left in the middle of surgery?
@Thavron@lemmy.ca avatar

Everyone here saying that there would be someone else to stitch you up, I think what OP meant was more of a “everyone in the room vanishes and you’re left alone” type of question.

agressivelyPassive,

Yep.

And the result would be varying very much depending on the surgery.

Open heart surgery? You’re done.

Knee surgery? A good amount of pain, but maybe fine.

nieceandtows,

‘Fine’ is a stretch. I don’t think I can sew myself good enough to prevent infection and gangrene.

I_Has_A_Hat,

Assuming all the power and filtration systems stay on, you’d actually be in a pretty sterile environment. If you did your best and put a lot of clean bandages on it, I feel like you have a good chance of avoiding infection.

Apytele, (edited )

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some_guy, in I'm being harassed by mosquitoes, how do i kill them all?

I understand garlic repels them.

Joe_0237,

i understand that whatever repels them one year, if its used by enough people, attracts them after they get the chance to evolve, a couple years. Could be wrong, but my family in Maine said this happened first with the standard deep woods bug spray, then with a natural oil blend everyone started using.

Dirk, in Dilemma with contributing to niche Communities on Instances federating with Threads
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That’s the good thing with federation. You can participate in communities without visiting the instance even once.

tenth,

What if I don’t want to post on lemmy.world anymore, because I don’t want Threads to benefit from my posts/comments.

I want people to come to Lemmy for its contents. Why would Threads users join Lemmy if they can subscribe to our communities instead?

Lemmylaugh, in For everyone new to Lemmy, how are you finding the experience?

Worried about the future of fediverse, all it takes is a few external bad apples and servers will start defederating. Also even less internal bad apples who decides to make specific desirable features proprietary with the goal to amass the majority to users. Both of these are bad for the fediverse.

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