Icarus,
citizenserious,

Where can I find soemthing about startpage changing to bing?

Bookmeat,

One time on duckduckgo I found some search results that directed searches for an official product to a phishing site for that product. I contacted ddg on Twitter and they fixed the results very quickly which was nice.

abbadon420,

Ggddg

hitagi, (edited )

Here’s my experience with some search engines:

A Tier – Gives me the closest results.

  • Google: A classic and oftentimes, it gets what I want. A lot of the links are redirects which is annoying.
  • Kagi: It’s paid but it has a lot of features like “lenses” and “quick answer”. The results are pretty good. It gives me good articles and PDFs instead of a blogspot post.
  • You.com: The WORST UI EVER but the results are surprisingly decent. It’s pretty close to Kagi. It might actually be the same thing. It also has an AI chatbot but I don’t think it’s as good as Bing’s or OpenAI’s.

B Tier – Gives me decent results.

  • Startpage: It used to use Google search results but they switched to Bing. It is worse than Google. EDIT: Search results are still closer to Google but they “incorporate Microsoft Bing results”. From my experience, it filters out some of Google results that were very useful for me. Their widgets (particularly the Wikipedia one) sometimes displays irrelavant information.
  • DuckDuckGo: Results are worse than Google. One time a referral link came up in one of my searches.
  • Bing: There’s no dark mode. The AI chat tool is pretty nice and is comparable to the OpenAI one (significantly better than Google’s Bard). Search results are worse than Google.
  • Yandex: Search results are similar to DuckDuckGo.
  • Ecosia: Search results are similar to the ones above.

C Tier – Gives me poor results.

  • Brave: Search results feel so inconsistent and out of place. Maybe worse than the ones above.
  • Mojeek: Independent search engine. Results aren’t very good.

Open Source Front Ends - Results quality varies.

  • SearXNG: It depends on which instance you’re using. Sometimes search results error out due to rate limiting but you still get results anyway. It has a lot of options and configs so it fits to your liking so you can choose which search engines you want to include.
  • LibreX: Actually one of my favorites since I’ve never encountered errors due to rate limiting but using it to search for images is terribly slow. It has a cool feature where you can add front ends like Libreddit and Wikiless. It also has a built-in torrent search engine.
  • Whoogle: The UI isn’t very good and it performs poorly on most public instances. A smaller or private instance might be worth looking into. It uses Google search results.

F Tier – It sucks.

  • Qwant: Not available in my country.

If anyone knows of any other search engine not in this list, let me know so I can try it out.

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

It used to use Google search results but they switched to Bing. It is worse than Google.

That’d be news to me and an ad hoc comparison I just did shows results much closer to Google than Bing with results usually just locally having switched places while on Bing it’s an entirely different order.

They do(did?) use Bing for mobile search results because daddy Google forced them to not be competitive on the platform they’re most interested in.

hitagi,

Now that I’m trying it again, it actually is similar to Google’s results but it filters some of the more useful results I get from Google based on some things I’m searching up.

We have more broadly incorporated Microsoft Bing into our results, using a unique solution specifically fitted to our privacy promise. Our collaboration with Microsoft also has enabled us to provide a superior mobile experience. You will see benefits like better search suggestions, fewer ads, and greatly improved similar image results, among others.

…startpage.com/…/12727471498644-What-are-Startpag…

I don’t know of this only applies to the widges or actual search results.

boredtortoise,

Is you.com having issues currently? Tried test searches and every content element just keeps loading

hitagi,

It works for me right now.

boredtortoise, (edited )

Thanks for testing. Pinpointed the issue to ad blocking on DNS. I have no idea which domains it needs whitelisted

Icarus,

what about yep.com ?

hitagi,

Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll try it out this week when I work on my papers.

citizenserious,

Where can I find soemthing about startpage changing to bing? Can’t find anything about that in my search engine 😅

hitagi,

We have more broadly incorporated Microsoft Bing into our results, using a unique solution specifically fitted to our privacy promise. Our collaboration with Microsoft also has enabled us to provide a superior mobile experience. You will see benefits like better search suggestions, fewer ads, and greatly improved similar image results, among others.

…startpage.com/…/12727471498644-What-are-Startpag…

I don’t know if this applies to the actual search results or the widgets. But upon checking, the results are actually still closer to Google but it filters out some results that I find useful. It also pulls up the first Wikipedia article it can find in the first page and displays it as a little widget on the side even if it’s far from relevant.

BaumGeist,

I can agree with the google placement if you’re assuming the searcher has experience with search operators, most of the time if I’m not wasting time crafting my search results to exclude all the SEO spam sites and Q&A sites written with the same amount of padding as a middle school book report, DuckDuckGo will give me better results than Google.

elfin8er,

How about yahoo.com?

hitagi,

I’ll try it too this week.

kionite231,

yandex.com if you don’t mind ru gov spying on you. Though you can use it with tor or VPN for privacy.

forgotmylastusername,

For a brief moment in time search engines were perfected. Then they veered off course. All of them did. Why though.

Remember when you could list vaguely some words related an obscure movie to Google. Then it would tell you the movie you’re thinking of. That’s been nerfed.

Tangentially related. What’s the deal with search engines of online stores. It’s like they aren’t even search engines at all. They’re doing nothing more than showing me products/sellers they want me to buy from. Digikey lets you drill down to precise specification filters. I wish all search engines could be like that.

lauha,

Actually the vague movie description thing was due to imdb’s movie tags that users had set on the movie and search engine was doing the simples things it could i.e. “all this one word links point to this movie, perhaps it is this?”

figaro,

Why’d they stop?

fallaciousreasoning,
@fallaciousreasoning@lemmy.nz avatar

Have you tried search.brave.com?

Disclaimer: I work at Brave, but I think it’s pretty good

heftig,
@heftig@beehaw.org avatar

Brave Search shadily relicenses the content of others: stackdiary.com/brave-selling-copyrighted-data-for…

theshatterstone54,

Oh shoot. I actually use it. That’s bad. But then again, what isn’t? What do I switch to? It’s all shit, but at least with Brave search, I actually get results for <insert obscure Linux issue here>.

Lamy,

Your own whonix

Lucidlethargy, (edited )

Probably the new Google search that uses Bard. It’s not public yet, but you can ask for access.

Edit: It’s currently referred to as “generative search”, and you can use it on Android if you sign up for the beta version of the app on the play store.

JohnDClay,

Does it link to it’s sources yet?

Tygr,

Topics like this remind me of the pre-Google era. If Google can’t see the damage they’ve done, they deserve to vanish like the ones they’ve vanished in the early years.

zemon,

I use Swisscows and Metager, and usually find what I need, if I don’t I retry the query with Startpage.

ch1cken,
@ch1cken@kbin.social avatar

I'm using brave search, and am very satisfied with it overall.

euj2EUVtuwrch4edp,
@euj2EUVtuwrch4edp@kbin.social avatar

I've been using https://www.ecosia.org/ because they plow some of their profits into planting trees. They use bing results and I generally find what I need quickly.

BaroqueInMind,
@BaroqueInMind@kbin.social avatar

Use a decentralized SearXNG instance and have it query every search engine that exists on the internet, or host your own of you're really actually worried about privacy, and never look back.

hypna,

I just tried two of the instances listed with a search for “how to filter mineral spirits”, and they both gave me errors. Both Google and DDG gave me an answer. Is there some trick I’m missing here?

sam,
@sam@lemmy.ca avatar

The instances get overloaded quickly and the IPs blocked by google/Microsoft/etc… Better off self-hosting.

DRx,
@DRx@lemmy.world avatar

+1 for SearXNG… I run my own instance in docker, and host it through a cloud flare tunnel. I set all my “web browser bars” on all my devices to auto use its address, so I don’t even have to think about it, and all my searches are auto routed through my instance. It’s Great!

KLISHDFSDF,
@KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml avatar

+1 for SearXNG. I’ve personally found mostly better results, for my use cases, than Google or duckduckgo, although I keep DDG as a backup.

mim,

SearXNG is great.

I think the features I’m missing are easily adding more engines (haven’t looked much into it), and automatically blacklisting domains from coming up in searches.

oktoberpaard,

I’m using Kagi, which aggregates search results from several search engines (including their own), but without the ads, with less crap and with features like searching for literal strings and promoting/demoting certain websites. It’s a paid service, though, but I like it enough that I’m ok with that.

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