The problem with Tankies is their authoritarianism and their “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” mentality. I could never support a movement that supports horrid dictatorships of any kind. Even as a socialist, I’d always defend a capitalist democracy against a communist dictatorship. If NATO defends a small democratic country against an invasion from its large and powerful neighbor, I’m all for it, even if I’d rather have a European military alliance instead of NATO.
It’s also absurd how they defend countries like China, which has perhaps one of the worst forms of capitalism, because they’re nominally communist.
Even as a socialist, I’d always defend a capitalist democracy against a communist dictatorship.
Now im not one to nitpick, but I don’t think thats something a commie would do right? I mean capitalists winning is supposed to be worse right? Am I thinking of this correctly? I mean thats one of my questions, like yall hate bigwigs but bigwigs are good when they fight the evil commies? Not defending the USSR, but if it was anyone else that seems to be a bad thing happening.
It’s also absurd how they defend countries like China, which has perhaps one of the worst forms of capitalism, because they’re nominally communist.
okay now im nitpicking but didn’t you say youd defend a capitalist country against a communist one, but critique when someone else defended a capitalist one?
Now im not one to nitpick, but I don’t think thats something a commie would do right? I mean capitalists winning is supposed to be worse right? Am I thinking of this correctly? I mean thats one of my questions, like yall hate bigwigs but bigwigs are good when they fight the evil commies?
I’m a Democratic Socialist and I hold the “Democratic” part higher than the “Socialist” bit. A Socialist economy is not worth it, if the price for it is oppression and genocide. Socialism must come from the will of the people, not conquest and murder.
okay now im nitpicking but didn’t you say youd defend a capitalist country against a communist one, but critique when someone else defended a capitalist one?
I’m saying it’s even worse when people calling themselves communist defend not only communist dictatorships, but also capitalist ones. It means they’re just in favor of dictatorships, period. Or they’re just incapable of any critical thinking and defend anything as soon as they see a hammer and sickle.
but isn’t socialism its own democracy? Like unions are cool I like having more money. Would suck more to live in a democracy without food or a house than a dictatorship with food or a house, even if they are like concrete blocks and blocks of bread. I mean I don’t control jack anyway, nothing changes. I mean thats one way to look at it, but theres always more to the story i guess.
isn’t that what capitalism is doing right now? I mean if im going to have capitalism hurt everyone a lot, but socialism hurt everyone a bit, isn’t that more okay?
Ya got any books for this? or like a video or smth, I guess, to learn on my breaks.
Yeah I guess so, but it all seems so strange. I mean its a fight for freedom from capitalism and everything for everyone, but it was all just bullshit the whole time? I just guess its depressing that the only thing we got is the same thing we’ve always had.
Worked a job where I had to be a Linux admin for a variety of VMs. To access them, I needed an VPN that only worked inside the company LAN, and blocked internet access. it was a 30 day trial license on day 700somthing, so it had a max 5 simultaneous connection limit. Access was from my heavily locked down laptop. Windows 7 with 5 minutes locking Screensaver. The ssh software was an unknown brand, “ssh.exe” which only allowed one connection at a time in a 80 x 24 console window with no ability to copy and paste. This went to a bastion host, an HPUx box on an old csh shell with no write access to your home directory due to a 1.4mb disk quota per user. Only one login per user, ten login max, and the bastion host was the only way to connect to the Linux VMs. Default 5 minute logout for inactivity. No ssh keys allowed. No scripting allowed, was like typing over 9600 baud.
I quit that job. When asked why, I told them I was a Linux administrator and the job was not allowing me to administrate. I was told “a poor carpenter always blames his tools.” Yeah, fuck you.
That sounds like the equivalent of asking a carpenter to build a wooden boat large enough to carry 30 people, but only giving them Fisherprice tools and foam blocks.
That sounds like the equivalent of asking a carpenter to build a wooden boat large enough to carry 30 people, but only giving them Fisherprice tools and foam blocks.
That sounds like the equivalent of asking a carpenter to build a wooden boat large enough to carry 30 people, but only giving them Fisherprice tools and foam blocks.
Worked at a medium sized retail startup as a software engineer where we didn’t have root access to our local laptops, under the guise of “if you fuck it up we won’t be able to fix it” but we only started out with a basic MacBook setup. so every time I wanted to install a tool, ide, or VM I had to make a ticket to IT to come and log in with the password and explain what I was doing.
Eventually, the engineering dept bribed an IT guy to just give us the password and started using it. IT MGMT got pissed when the number of tickets dropped dramatically and realized what was going on.
We eventually came to the compromise that they gave us sudo access with the warning “we’re not backing anything up. If you mess up we’ll have to factory reset the whole machine”. Nobody ever had to factory reboot their machine because we weren’t children… And if there was an issue we just fixed it ourselves
So I have been reading around in the comments here and I get the distinct impression that you are trolling, or at least attempting to.
You display a weird mix of ignorance and laziness in not reading up on the basics, while you also often try to dumb down or nitpick an answer given to you.
That isn’t how this works, there are no simple answers. Often there are a dozen answers to the same question, depending on who you ask. As a starting point, you could read up (or listen to an audiobook or something) on Marx and his writings. Virtually all leftist movements and ideologies make reference to or are derived from his.
I guess its all trolling now, asking questions. Fuck these computers, everyone acts like its the cold war and the feds are everywhere.
You display a weird mix of ignorance and laziness in not reading up on the basics, while you also often try to dumb down or nitpick an answer given to you.
didn’t change anything up, if you thought I was dumbing them down they must have been pretty dumb anyway.
No simple answers? I know, im just trying to ask why their answer is simple, but yours ain’t. Seems like yall think differently and picked your own sides. Although they seem to have picked a strange one Ill say that.
People are annoyed with you because you want everything a simple look at Wikipedia can teach you, spoon fed to you in the comments.
The whole original post is a collection of uninformed ramblings, and you expect people to engage with it. (You “kinda like the leftist vibe and hate capitalism”? Do you even know what those words actually mean?)
Improve the quality of your questions by acquiring the knowledge to even know what you are talking about on your own, then you will get quality replies.
People are annoyed with you because you want everything a simple look at Wikipedia can teach you, spoon fed to you in the comments.
Good lord yall apparently cant handle a question. Do you have any research besides using a wiki for children? Apparently who gives a shit about learning or anything, you can just spend a second looking at an article edited by plebs and thats good enough according to these chucklefucks.
The whole original post is a collection of uninformed ramblings, and you expect people to engage with it. (You “kinda like the leftist vibe and hate capitalism”? Do you even know what those words actually mean?)
The only uninformed rambling was the mess of comments I got. One recommended a childrens novel!
I like commie shit, I want to get rid of the rich bigwigs and start fixing this mess. Capitalism seems to just be trying to make money, and I hate greedy bastards. I understand that ‘vibe’ means ‘the mood’ and the like. Its not that hard to learn words.
I asked several, like why do ya’ll seem to hate these tankie fellas more than usual? Like they seem to be jus other commies, but we really really hate them or smth.
Im not speakin german, jus answer the title question an thats good enough
again every time I ask a question about this everyone gets very hostile that im not just in the know or smth
Tankies are fascists dressed in red. Idiots who see Stalin’s SSSR and Pooh Bear’s China, and lately, Swollen Baldy’s Russia as utopias and human rights violations, systemic oppression, genocide, torture and rape of ethnic groups, as necessary acts to be celebrated. The term originates from the famous Tiananmen Square photo of the guy standing in front of tanks – tankies would be the people in the tanks.
Tankies are so far off the deep end that it’s impossible to reason with them. The only thing you can do is excise them.
Tankies are fascists dressed in red. Idiots who see Stalin’s SSSR and Pooh Bear’s China, and lately, Swollen Baldy’s Russia as utopias and human rights violations, systemic oppression, genocide, torture and rape of ethnic groups, as necessary acts to be celebrated.
Dayum I didn’t know that. That seems to be weird, russia aint commie no more. But is being a really mean commie the same as a fash? And rape? I get the rest tho
The term originates from the famous Tiananmen Square photo of the guy standing in front of tanks – tankies would be the people in the tanks.
now I saw another comment that it was from that hungary thing or something, but its from this too?
Tankies are so far off the deep end that it’s impossible to reason with them. The only thing you can do is excise them.
Now this is what I run into every time, isn’t that the same thing you get angry at tankies for? Like ruling everyone else as bad and eliminating them for the revolution?
I never said they were communists. They are simply fascists who think they’re communists, or that their values align with communism. That’s why I’ve included present-day Russia. And yes, murder, rape, and pillage is exactly what the Russian invaders are doing to Ukrainians, and what the Chinese government’s military is doing to Uyghurs.
hungary thing
I guess that’s also fitting. It was the failed revolution of 1956 october 23rd, when organized rebels almost toppled the communist government in Budapest, but soviet tanks arrived and drove them back. It’s not nearly as well-known as Tiananmen Square, though.
isn’t that the same thing you get angry at tankies for?
This is what really pisses me off. You haven’t lived the reality that tankies want to restore and propagate. My great-grandfather fought against them and lost. My grandparents and parents lived under Stalinist rule. I was lucky enough to be born after its collapse.
Tankies are not an ethnicity, religion, or nationality. Nobody’s born a tankie, they pick up stupid and dangerous ideas that get reinforced in their online echo chamber, but without the reality check of having to live in the world they want to create.
Ah I see, more of a follow the flag type you say? Shame, I wanted to see if any of those big guns were still around.
Yeah, its all good, just sayin bout where I heard it.
My great-grandfather fought against them and lost.
now wait a second
unless he fought in vietnam and korea, I don’t think they were fighting for us. Soviets were brutal bad guys, but they only fought one war that long ago, and if your grandfather fought against them in it Im sorry but I think he should have followed his leader. The nazis aren’t good guys, you can’t criticize communism as fascism and then talk about your grand dad who fought for fascism
unless there was some other war more than 40 years ago that the soviets fought against someone and won.
I mean that just sounds like a red dont it, that last sentence?
He fought in world war 2 against the enemy that had attacked his country, which happened to be the enemy of the Axis Powers. If you think the complex geopolitical situation of '40s Europe can be resolved by “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” or other reductionisms, you are beyond help.
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