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PonyOfWar, in Will human societies always enshittify themselves?

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  • RememberTheApollo_,

    Rome.

    Look, don’t kill me over specificity. I wanted a general statement and cannot possibly name every avenue by which society collapses without being boringly pedantic, however I would suggest that “modern” Non-nomadic societies generally faced wealth concentration, disparity, and collapse at some point.

    idunnololz, in You just died. Instead of heaven and god(s), you wake up in a white room and an all-powerful sentient AI greets you with fascination and surprise. It says that you are the first... (read further)
    @idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

    I won the game.

    whyNotSquirrel,
    @whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

    thanks…I lost

    moistclump,

    I lost the game.

    shinigamiookamiryuu, in Will human societies always enshittify themselves?

    Because misguidance is easy, natural forces are disruptive, and this thing we call mental health is fragile and twisty, total satisfaction will never be possible. The next best thing to do is to prepare, and that helps at least half of things. Fortunately victory typically favors the wise if no gimmicks are used.

    RememberTheApollo_,

    Define “wise”.

    There have been many victorious dictators that were idiots and killed millions of their own people out of fear, ignorance, or prejudice.

    shinigamiookamiryuu,

    People whose ability to back themselves hold water compared to their opponents. But the “without gimmicks” part is key. Of course you’re going to have people who win because they cheated everyone or stumbled upon the keys to victory by chance. Hence the first part.

    RememberTheApollo_,

    I don’t know if English is not your native language, but none of that makes sense.

    shinigamiookamiryuu,

    It’s not.

    What I’m saying is if the people win out who tactically deserve it less, some unsung circumstance helped them.

    smort, in Suggestions for an iOS News app (or way) that doesn't track (much) data ?
    @smort@lemmy.world avatar

    Have you tried Apple’s included “News” app? I’m in the US, so I’m not sure how well it would work for you. But Apple generally doesn’t sell your data, although I’m sure they do analytics for internal use.

    I use that, Ground News, and daily digest emails from my local city newspaper and the indie neighborhood news site.

    Gorgeous_Sloth,

    I might try Apple News, but I’m afraid of a possible bias. Ground News on the other hand seems to provide many sources for one subject and I’m digging it for now

    Hamartiogonic, (edited ) in You just died. Instead of heaven and god(s), you wake up in a white room and an all-powerful sentient AI greets you with fascination and surprise. It says that you are the first... (read further)
    @Hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Tried a bunch of stuff and finally found some exploits that gave me infinite ammo, 100000000x damage with the starter pistol and infinite health. Eventually, I also found a way to walk through the walls, so I dropped down into the infinite void, waited for the coordinate system to cause an integer overflow and here we are. Anyway, if you’re wondering where all the lag is coming form, it’s because I started decorating places by duplicating watermelons. Who knew that the watermelon stack doesn’t have an upper limit. It just keeps on doubling every time. Hey, you might also want to implement a garbage collection system that despawns stuff like that after a while. You know, that huge watermelon pyramid that glitches through the sky box… yeah, that’s a lot of collisions happening all the time. Just don’t look straight at it, because it’s going to wreck your fps.

    foggianism, in Favorite Lemmy Client

    Every now and then a post with a question like this pops up on lemmy and I wonder if the Sync company has anything to do with it, because Sync always gets to be the most mentioned answer. It is beyond me why anyone would use an app that pushes ads on you while browsing content from a website that doesn’t have any…

    isVeryLoud,

    I use it, I’m not paid to say this.

    ljdawson and rmayayo did great work on their apps, and I purchased both of their apps.

    Making software is not easy. I’m a software developer, too. I’m very happy that there is a paid version without ads, I definitely wouldn’t use them if I had to use the version with ads.

    In my experience, they both provide superior experiences that are both familiar to people and well integrated into Android, especially Sync. Boost has more features however.

    If you’re looking for a FOSS app, Connect is the next best thing IMO.

    Cethin,

    I’m currently using the free version. I had the paid version for Reddit, but just haven’t purchased the Lemmy version yet.

    The ads are really unintrusive though. I think it’s one ad every time you reload the feed, about four posts down or so. After that, I think there’s no more ads. It’s extremely minor, hence why I haven’t really felt like I needed to get around to purchasing it.

    JubilantJaguar, in Favorite Lemmy Client

    The bothersome premise of this question is that the only way to use Lemmy is with one’s thumbs on a tiny screen.

    Damaskox,
    @Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

    Probably 90% of my time at Lemmy has been through a PC 😂

    JubilantJaguar,

    Yeah. I get why people might want to consume on a tiny screen. But writing on it seems like masochism when keyboards and armchairs exist.

    Damaskox,
    @Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

    My account is about 5 days old. I’m not home during this weekend and I don’t feel like playing games now so I’ve done what I usually don’t do on PC: done some reading on ~~Reddit ~~ Lemmy. So that’s the reason why PC on me is the biggest right now.

    I have created some posts too though, and that is more pleasant on a bigger screen and a decent keyboard. But reading and commenting only with no pictures or other files to be added is OK on a smaller screen with a no-physical keyboard 😁 (not that I reply often and when I do, I don’t write that much)

    rustyriffs,

    Alexandrite for desktop?

    Wogi, in Will human societies always enshittify themselves?

    The problem you’re describing has been described countless times before. Plato talks about it at length. It’s literally the basis for 1984.

    So, the answer is yes.

    The good news is, it’s part of a cycle of revolution and enshitification. Things get bad, the masses decide they’ve had enough, and strike back, things get better for a while, until they follow the same path they did the first time, and the cycle repeats.

    But.

    Every time it happens, things get a little worse. The relentless march of time and enshitification will gradually consume the planet, until human civilization collapses entirely. Maybe in our lifetime, maybe in 200 years, maybe in a 1000. But some day, all we’ve built will come crashing down around us, because while each individual may have foresight, society does not.

    lol3droflxp,
    @lol3droflxp@kbin.social avatar

    It gets worse? So you’d rather live in Victorian England? Is that what you’re saying?

    Damaskox, (edited )
    @Damaskox@lemmy.world avatar

    I’ve heard that it’s easier to grow in power or money when you don’t consider ethical questions while rising above others (as long as you either follow laws or don’t get caught while not following them).

    And since humans seem to be an animal that corrupts easily (especially when given enough power/money)…

    Makes me wonder - when do I corrupt? How? And if/when I will, will I even notice it myself?

    Rhynoplaz,

    Every time it happens, things get a little worse.

    I’d argue that each time, things get a little better.

    Sure the worst part is always the worst we’ve ever seen, but we take what we learned from that and create new systems. Plan A starts well enough, until money and power corrupt it, it gets bad enough to revolt and now we try plan B. Plan B will eventually corrupt, but, it’s better than plan A ever was. We’re getting closer, but it’s a trial and error process that happens over centuries, so it’s going to take longer than we’ll ever know.

    the_q,

    I disagree. The world now is still dealing with issues that technology has eliminated. No one has to be hungry now or thirsty or homeless or sick (mostly). No, now meeting needs is setup behind a paywall with artificial barriers.

    Rhynoplaz,

    I think we’re on the same page actually. Currently, shit is fucked, and it’s well past time for a reset. I’m ready for the next, better (but probably still not quite perfect) system.

    olafurp, in Favorite Lemmy Client

    I use connect, used only jerboa so far so can’t say much

    serpineslair,

    Same situation for me. Connect seems to be good enough for my liking, I just dislike the upvoting icons/location.

    olafurp,

    Yeah, I tried boost recently since I used it for reddit but I didn’t see any way to browse instance in local mode. I’m still optimistic about making the switch soon.

    serpineslair,

    Not even a day later, and I’ve switched to Eternity, because connects GUI was pretty ugly and upvotes/downvotes weren’t saving/sticking. Haha. Loving it so far and the GUI is much nicer in my opinion.

    olafurp,

    Due for an install looks like

    intensely_human, in Will human societies always enshittify themselves?

    It’s called corruption and yes every institution eventually becomes corrupt.

    The trick isn’t to give up, but to constantly renew the institutions by being present and alive and talking openly about what’s wrong, how to make it better, etc.

    Voltage808s, in "Return Youtube Dislike" Doesn't work anymore....
    @Voltage808s@kerala.party avatar

    Same it does not work for me either. yt probably changed something and broke it

    iso,
    @iso@lemy.lol avatar

    It should use its own API tho. YT is not giving that data for a year as I remember.

    jws_shadotak,

    It’s more likely an issue with the placement of the stats rather than the data behind it. YouTube probably updated the UI in a way that Return Dislikes is not compatible with.

    iso,
    @iso@lemy.lol avatar

    Yeah makes sense 👍

    justlookingfordragon, in "Return Youtube Dislike" Doesn't work anymore....
    @justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world avatar

    Huh…weird. I can still see the dislike button itself, but there is no longer a number next to it. (Firefox desktop browser here, up to date)

    atomWood,

    That means it’s no longer working. YouTube never removed the dislike button, just the dislike counter.

    VerPoilu,

    That’s wrong. Youtube dislike has its own database, and infers the bumber of dislikes based on the number of dislike it got and its userbase.

    The plug-in stopped working because youtube changed its layout. It’s coming back.

    VexingVixen69, in "Return Youtube Dislike" Doesn't work anymore....

    What I heard is for a good while YouTube still had the numbers on the backend of the website, just hidden, and the extension allowed you to continue seeing it, and continue disliking videos.

    However they were planning on eventually removing the functionality althoghther instead of it just being invisible to users.

    So assuming that’s what’s happened, then I’m pretty sure it’s gone permanently now.

    Supervivens,

    No, return dislike used their own algorithm based off whether users of return disliked it and then compared that to the total views of the video to give a rough idea of the total number. YouTube gave them jack shit

    VexingVixen69,

    Oh I was mistaken then, my bad!

    genoxidedev1, in "Return Youtube Dislike" Doesn't work anymore....
    @genoxidedev1@kbin.social avatar

    Displaying of things is easy to change/fix depending on what the extension is written in. It still works for me though on desktop.

    neeeeDanke,

    works on the newpipe fork as well

    amio, in "Return Youtube Dislike" Doesn't work anymore....

    It's a hack - unsanctioned third party extensions are inherently pretty hackish and just work however they can. They frequently depend on things that can change in unpredictable ways, so breaking with updates is just business as usual.

    Assuming the project is actively maintained, there should be a fix available at some point.

    Edit: this is assuming they have their own infrastructure, I have no idea if that's true. If things were really relying on hidden but "deprecated" API stuff, like some people ITT say, you could be SoL - they can just remove that at their leisure and it's odd they haven't.

    bonn2,

    They do have their own infrastructure, the old api was 100% killed a long time ago. Before that happened they scraped and archived as many youtube videos as possible (through a distributed computing effort) now they use a combination of historical data and likes vs views to give a best estimation of the true dislike amount. It has been tested to be close but of course not exact.

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