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kylie_kraft, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

Marilyn Manson - he had a slow slide from alcoholism to lecher creep to serial abuser. he spent 2009-2011 doing the worst shit to women that you can imagine.

Brand New - turns out that Jesse was a groomer of underage girls.

Arcade Fire - Win Butler is a sex pest.

Smashing Pumpkins - not at all in the same category as the others, but goddamn does Billy Corgan suck. he was always known as a first-class egotist, but he just kept being an asshole long after his prime had become a distant memory. then the weird shit started: crackpot conspiracy theories on Myspace, palling around with Alex Jones on Infowars, dropping alt-right buzzwords in interviews. the latest album is an extended allegory on cancel culture. worse, it’s mostly unlistenable.

Kiernian,

palling around with Alex Jones on Infowars, dropping alt-right buzzwords in interviews

That saddens and actually kinda shocks me.

I would have expressed ZERO surprise to news of him going so far to the LEFT that he ended up miles beyond hippie dippie new agey and founded his own Heaven’s Gate cult (The central belief of the which was that followers could transform themselves into immortal extraterrestrial beings by rejecting their human nature, and they would ascend to heaven)…but this is…honestly weirding me out.

Wasn’t he going so far into eastern spirituality that he was recording himself reading the entirety of the Bhagavad Gita at one point or something?

CyanideShotInjection, (edited ) in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

I am a huge fan of black metal so often I have to filter out the ones with white supremacists members. But one I can’t help myself going back to is Burzum. What he brought to the atmospherical BM scene is huge and I hate that I love his early records so much…

farcaster,

Yeah I love black metal but it has some problematic people. “The Somberlain” by Dissection is a great album but I genuinely can’t enjoy it because of the person behind it…

CyanideShotInjection,

I know what you mean. Personnally I prefer Storm of the Light’s Bane, but I feel less bad about listening to Dissection cause the guy’s dead so not like he gets any money from me lol

isthingoneventhis, (edited )

Oh goddamnit, are dissection fuckwads too? I absolutely love their stuff and it took me a good while to stop listening to burzum after I found out he was a shitbag u. u

CyanideShotInjection,

Basically, Jon Nödtveidt, the lead guitarist/singer, was convicted for the killing of a gay algerian man. Two years after his release from prison he killed himself in a satanic ritual.

notannpc, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

Johnny Craig, the former lead singer for the band Dance Gavin Dance. Dude has repeatedly fucked up and ripped off fans, but damn did he have a great singing voice.

And for the opposite, T-Pain and Post Malone. Both of them just seem like the coolest, and most chill people but their studio music is just not for me.

girsaysdoom,

Yeah, Johnny Craig definitely has an history of messed up stuff. It makes me glad I prefer Kurt Travis’ vocals.

remus989, (edited ) in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

Asimov, from all accounts, was quite a creep but dammit if his writing isn’t good.

fhek, in Bodybuilders with jacked upper bodies and untrained legs: Why?

Cause they only work out their “Glamour Muscles”

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, in What are some things that you have experienced in fever dreams that don't actually exist in real life?
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

I once found this pool you could breathe in while swimming. That was a nice fever dream.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, in What are some things that you have experienced in fever dreams that don't actually exist in real life?
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

I once found this pool you could breathe in while swimming. That was a nice fever dream.

AquaTofana, in Honestly - How much will you sacrifice for a better world?

My husband and I don’t have kids, and we’ve severely cut back (not fully cut out yet), but really cut back on our meat consumption. I also avoid buying plastic whenever possible, and buy things like toilet paper/paper towels/regular linens made from recycled materials. Actually, if I have the option to buy anything made from recycled materials I’ll typically opt for that. That’s about it right now.

Only tangentially related to your question, but I’m also in a Master degree program for Public Administration so when I retire from the military I can roll right into law school. My goal is to become a Public Defender, which, I know, is fucking hard work with a lot of burn out for little pay, but I do have confidence that I can be an extra pair of hands for an overburdened industry. Everyone in the US is entitled to competent representation, and I’ve no interest in representing those who can afford their own lawyers.

And it burns me up that the rich can often get away with paying simple fines while the poor who can’t afford it go to jail and become essentially legalized slave labor. Fuck that. Anyone I can help save from losing their livelihood, home, family, car, etc, is a big fucking W in my book.

Heir_Of_Isildur,

Thank you for sharing. Good luck with studies and career ambitions!

shinigamiookamiryuu, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

Aside from dictators (who are by definition very, very shitty people, but almost always have an art career for some reason), assuming actors don’t count as artists, I’d have to say the only example I can think of is Butch Hartman, not shitty because of his character but because he’s like the other JK Rowling.

To answer the second question, literally all the e-artists I’ve ever met, though art is relative enough I don’t feel like art can have a “negative” value. I trust they will never see this.

Tattorack,
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If by “e-artist” you mean “artist/illustrator that makes art digitally and posts it online” then… Uh… Well, one artist has seen this. ^^;

Anticorp, (edited ) in Does "Rock music is evil / of the devil" have racist roots?

That’s a completely different perspective than I’ve ever heard in church. I grew up in a fundamentalist household and the whole “rock is of the devil” attitude was fueled mostly by artists like Black Sabbath and Danzig, where they have a demonic stage presence, and lyrics which are worldly. Danzig used actual devil imagery and pentagrams in his media, and Ozzie was known as the Prince of Darkness, so the Christians weren’t really reaching to say that the artists were opposed to Christianity. Your interpretation probably has much older roots in Southern Baptist movements, which aren’t prevalent in all denominations.

someguy3, in Bodybuilders with jacked upper bodies and untrained legs: Why?

Woman like big arms.

Sincerely, a man with T-rex mode.

shinigamiookamiryuu, in Do you ever question your life?

Can’t question what you’ve never had or seen.

fruitycoder, in If You Had to Worship or be the Champion of an Ancient Greek God/Goddess Which One Would You Pick?

Prometheus for sure. The Titian that humble his kind, the Titan that modeled man from clay, that stole fire from the Olympians when he saw man had no other gifts, that freed hope from Pandora’s box.

Athenas and Hephaestus’s gifts are invaluable gods of wisdom, craftsmen, and artificial beings, but without fire from the defiant Titan we had nothing to really build our cities from.

tal, (edited )
@tal@lemmy.today avatar

Also, Prometheus paid a horrific price for helping humanity. Generally-speaking, the Greek pantheon is fairly self-interested, and not terribly interested in helping humanity in general.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

In Greek mythology, Prometheus (/prəˈmiːθiəs/; Ancient Greek: Προμηθεύς, [promɛːtʰéu̯s], possibly meaning “forethought”)[1] is sometimes referred to as the God of Fire.[2] Prometheus is best known for defying the Olympian gods by stealing fire from them and giving it to humanity in the form of technology, knowledge, and more generally, civilization.

In some versions of the myth, he is also credited with the creation of humanity from clay.[3] Prometheus is known for his intelligence and for being a champion of mankind,[4] and is also generally seen as the author of the human arts and sciences.[5] He is sometimes presented as the father of Deucalion, the hero of the flood story.[6][7][8]

The punishment of Prometheus for stealing fire from Olympus and giving it to humans is a subject of both ancient and modern culture. Zeus, king of the Olympian gods, condemned Prometheus to eternal torment for his transgression. Prometheus was bound to a rock, and an eagle—the emblem of Zeus—was sent to eat his liver (in ancient Greece, the liver was thought to be the seat of human emotions). His liver would then grow back overnight, only to be eaten again the next day in an ongoing cycle.

I don’t think that any other character in the pantheon could realistically be called as sympathetic. I’m not sure that any other divide Greek figure deserves humanity’s gratitude.

Tripp1976, in Is there an artist whose work you love but was a shitty person?

I saw Bassnectar perform 24 times. Then we found out he likes to fuck underage girls. That killed all respect I had for him immediately.

BigPotato,

Oop. That’s one I didn’t know. That’s gonna recontextualize Beauty Vs Noise for me.

grasshopper_mouse, in What are some things that you have experienced in fever dreams that don't actually exist in real life?
@grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world avatar

I have a reoccurring dream, sometimes an actual fever is involved, sometimes it’s after I’ve just had a vaccine (maybe also a fever then?), but I’m always in some medieval or Victorian-era setting and it’s night time and there’s a full moon and I turn into a werewolf. I then go on a killing spree and kill people I know in the dream (no one I know in real life) in totally brutal ways with teeth and claws, and then the sun comes up and I turn into a human again and I realize what I’ve done and I freak out, and that’s when I wake up sweaty and panting like I’ve just run a marathon. It’s nuts and has happened several times.

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