What's an alternative to Spotify that doesn't play you the same fucking songs over and over?

I am in an intense love-hate relationship with Spotify. It makes good mixes for me, I have found a lot of great bands that way. BUT IT KEEPS REGURGITATING THE SAME SONGS IN THERE. I know about Song Radios and Artist Radios, so please don’t recommend those. Smart Shuttle doesn’t cut it, either.

The best thing would be several randomness sliders. One for randomness in bands, the other for randnomness of their songs, one for genres. Please tell me some music service has implemented something like that. I am dying over here.

mlg,
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Don’t read unless you remember what burning a CD was or if you want a viable answer

spoilerA self curated mp3/opus folder with everything sorted into sub-folders, and a playlist folder that you can mess with on the fly I’m still surprised all my music fits < 1GB by a large margin. Less than 2GB if you include full video game sound tracks. If I ever want to add anything, I usually use ytp-dlp and download from whatever source (usually youtube). Everything autosyncs to any of my devices with syncthing, which incidentally is also useful for photos. But tbf this doesn’t introduce you to new stuff. That I just do by random chance by watching yt videos and crap. YT Music is just as bad and will loop the same 3 songs if you let it.

sntx,

That’s the setup!

Though I prefer the mix of flac/opus.

There are scripts for yt-dlp out there that allow you to automatically download an entire artists discography (yt), which I recommend if it’s legal in your country.

volleyballcrocodile,

I’m always shocked by how quickly a large music collection seems to get stale for me.

I dislike the way spotify seems to push certain songs, but I love that I hear stuff I’ve never heard a lot of the time.

emeralddawn45,

That is not a lot of music. I had my old 80gb iPod filled to the brim with more on my computer back in the day. And those were just ordinary mp3s, not flac or lossless or anything. Nowadays I have like 10000 songs in my spotify library. I moved away from mp3s because curating and downloading that many songs is a pain and quite time consuming compared to just clicking a heart on spotify. Plus spotify is now primarily how I find new music, so ts just way easier than switching to a browser and manually downloading whatever cool song I just found, and having to fix tags or whatever. Especially since I’m usually doing something else while listening. With spotify I can save a song without even unlocking my phone. I also always listen to my whole library on shuffle and haven’t had any issues with it.

cashews_best_nut,

On Android install InnerTune from F-Droid. Allows you to play Youtube Music for free and no ads.

brambledog,

I was using innertune and will go.back to it when I can convince my wife to stop paying for youtube, but I’m definitely not looking forward to going back to it.

Innertune had issues communicating with Bluetooth and would have loading issues when not on wi-fi.

Also, the app fully breaks and has to be redownloaded if you attempt to use a widget maker for it.

russjr08,
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I don’t suppose you’ve tried the “DJ” feature? It’s usually pretty good for me, but of course your mileage may vary.

I’ve run into the same problem of the shuffle (and “smart” shuffle) just plays the exact same thing all the time, even in a playlist with thousands of songs. Tried out YouTube music for a while, and it’s not much better. So I’ll be interested in what others say here.

The best one for me a long time ago was Pandora - for some reason I was under the impression they weren’t around anymore, but it looks like they are. But, I don’t know if they are still as great as they were back then.

dingus, (edited )

What is the “DJ” feature you’re referring to? I don’t see that in my app.

Edit: Found it by going to home > music

The obnoxious voice that talks to you every few songs is irritating as fuck, though. I wish it would just silently change genres instead of talking to me it’s a person and interrupting my music.

russjr08,
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It’s an AI feature from them that is supposed to play music based off numerous factors, primarily by what you’ve been listening to recently. It also tries to mix in music that is related to what you’re listening to as well, but haven’t heard before. But as Spuddlesv2 mentioned below, it sometimes does play music that is out of that - doesn’t happen too often to me but when it does, you can click the DJ icon (the queue button becomes the DJ button) and it’ll “change it up”. It also uses a dynamically AI generated voice based on their “Head of Cultural Partnerships, Xavier ‘X’ Jernigan” and talks to you the way you’d expect a DJ to if they were playing for you personally whenever its moving to a different set of music. I’m not sure what regions its available in, but if its available in your region (and you’re a Spotify Premium member) you’ll see it as a playlist option, and generally on the homescreen as well.

Here’s a link to Spotify’s initial newsroom article on it. And over on this article from August at the bottom they list the markets/regions its available in. If you’re in both an eligible “market” and you have Premium but still don’t see it, perhaps your app might be out of date? Try launching their Web UI as once you have selected it for the first time, it should appear in the recents area.

Spuddlesv2,

I was enjoying the DJ feature until it started cramming in top 40 shite into my mix that doesn’t even come close to resembling anything I would ever listen to. And not just one song - usually three or four in a row. I used to love Pandora’s shuffle play feature but it’s no longer available in my country.

Captain_Patchy,

Shuffle no repeat on my 60 gb ipod classic. Also shuffle no repeat using VLC for android on my phone.

omxxi,

I think this article can help you newvisiontheatres.com/spotify-shuffle-plays-same-…

rip_art_bell,
@rip_art_bell@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you. I didn’t know about the Automix setting, and it’s enabled by default

Bitrot,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Pandora sort of has some of that but not so far in depth. You can customize with crowd favorite songs or hits or deep cuts or discovery. Their library is much smaller though, and you’re stuck in a genre based on the station for the most part.

Redditgee, (edited )

This is kinda how I operate. Just listen to pandora while I’m doing other tasks and see if new songs grow on me, then every few weeks, I put all my thumbed up songs on spotify playlists.

FrostKing,

I believe it’s Android only, but Innertune quickly became the best way to listen to music. Check it out :)

netburnr,
@netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

Turn off Automix in your settings and the Playlist work much better

deur,

Automix doesn’t do what you’re saying it does, it is only an advanced version of crossfading the end of one song and the start of another.

netburnr,
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No, it isn’t crossfade. It adds random music to your Playlist. I found this fix on Reddit the other day and it made a big difference, I’m now hearing songs on my liked song Playlist that I’ve not heard in a long time.

Bitrot, (edited )
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That isn’t automix, that’s smart shuffle.

Automix is only enabled on a few playlists, and not Liked songs.

If you’ve ever listened to a dance album where one song merges seamlessly into the next, automix does that. When you hear a playlist using automix it is very noticeable.

ALERT,
@ALERT@sh.itjust.works avatar

Plex without Chromecast.

transientpunk,
@transientpunk@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m enjoying Plexamp

valiant1,

I’ve been using Deezer and it’s just as good as Spotify, you can also import your Spotify favorites list and playlists. Jumped over during the whole Neil Young/ Joe Rogan cancel

Copythis,

I just about lost my mind earlier out of frustration for this. I love listening to rap/hip hop and the algorithm makes multiple mixes with the exact same songs every time.

I just typed in “underground” in search and found so much good shit. Not even all rap. There’s all sorts of great music I have never heard!

histic,

personally I use tidal and am very happy with it

Kase,

Same. I use the free version, and I like the personalized discovery playlist that’s updated every day

Vex_Detrause,

Lemmy radio?

kattenluik, (edited )

That’s not an alternative to Spotify in any way, and yet your comment gets to show up first.

caveman8000,

TIL I’m the only person who uses Pandora…

PsychedSy,

There’s two of us. I’ve had my station since 2008.

Lesrid,

Every teacher at the private school I work at has a Pandora account apparently.

Ludrol,
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Usually I just use everynoise.com playlists to listen to specific genre

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