What are your criteria for upvoting/downvoting?

I hate that I always compare Lemmy to Reddit, but Reddit used to have (not sure if they still do) guidelines called “Reddiquette” that included guidelines about upvoting and downvoting. I don’t remember the specifics (and sending too much of my browser traffic to Reddit makes me feel dirty) but one of the guidelines was not to upvote/downvote on the basis of agreement/disagreement with the content.

On Lemmy, I’m honestly a bit lax about upvoting and downvoting at all. (I’m trying to be better about it.) Buy when I do upvote/downvote, I try to do so on the basis of whether the comment/post “adds to” or “subtracts from” the community or conversation. I can disagree with one comment’s take on some subject but still upvote them if they’ve given me a more nuanced perspective on the issue. If they’re just parrotting well-known talking points and not being thoughtful with their posts, I may downvote them evren if I agree with their ultimate stance.

I’m just mostly wondering how folks on Lemmy think about upvotes/downvotes and what implications that has for the content here.

thelsim,
@thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you reply to my comment or post, it’s an automatic upvote because I appreciate you for taking the time to interact with me and I will try to reply in return.
If a post or comment is funny, touching, interesting, heartfelt or anything else that makes me appreciate the time and effort you put into this, it’s an upvote.
If you’re only here to argue in bad faith, insult or belittle someone, it’s a downvote. If it’s with me, I will ignore you and not even downvote.

ohlaph,

Obligatory response.

thelsim,
@thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

Happy upvote and reply :)

Leviathan,

Upvote me, sempai.

thelsim,
@thelsim@sh.itjust.works avatar

Always :)

XbSuper,

I like this: upvote

I don’t like this: downvote

killeronthecorner,
@killeronthecorner@lemmy.world avatar

This guy puts his pants on one leg at a time

NeoNachtwaechter,

“Reddiquette” that included guidelines about upvoting and downvoting.

First time that I even hear about that LOL.

I do not follow any ‘guidelines’ when up/downvoting. It comes spontaneously.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Why not?

NeoNachtwaechter,

Because it happens spontaneously.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a choice, though. Why make that choice instead of considering why you vote?

NeoNachtwaechter,

Of course I make a choice each time when I vote. I’m not a robot after all… :-)

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

I try to upvote most things I see, especially if someone took the time to comment under one of my posts.

If I downvote, it’s usually because I see someone is actively being rude or is trying to steer something light into something controversial to bait arguments.

Lord_ToRA, (edited )
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve found that the Risa community very much uses downvotes to disagree. I made a harmless joke and got dogpiled on, including a very toxic and rude comment from Stamets.

Since you are a highly respected member there, and really all of Lemmy, I think it would be greatly beneficial for you to openly advocate for people sticking to your logic when it comes to downvotes.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

Thank you, and I’m sorry if people dogpiled on you about something. I just want everybody to be cool to each other and have fun.

Lord_ToRA,
@Lord_ToRA@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks. I appreciate the sentiment. It is the internet after all so I basically always expect toxicity to some extent, but I was just surprised at the extreme disproportion of the response. Also, I expected more from Lemmy and in particular Risa, but I guess that’s on me.

The_Picard_Maneuver,
@The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website avatar

I’ve found that Lemmy tends to be about 50% more chill than reddit, but it definitely has some similar challenges. I try to be positive on a personal level and try to support others who I see doing the same.

In my experience so far (just a few months) Risa has been one of the most friendly places on lemmy - maybe it was just a full moon or something? Whatever the case, I say positive people are always welcome.

Ecksell,
@Ecksell@lemmy.one avatar

You guys have a downvote? Whoa, here on .one we do not.

GONADS125,

I couldn’t stand being on an instance without downvotes, personally. They are abused, but they serve a valid purpose.

(I can see one person downvoted your comment btw.)

sour, (edited )
@sour@kbin.social avatar

downvotes are for condescension and things people already mentioned

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

Downvoting a post because they weren't the first to respond is silly. Do you compare time stamps or just something with fewer upvotes and lolisted lower on the screen?

It just seems like a weird reason to downvote, and I downvote pretty freely.

sour, (edited )
@sour@kbin.social avatar

i meant reasons people already talked about for downvoting

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

For posts:

Interesting content gets updoot. Spam, misinformation, and conservative politics get the downdoot.

For comments:

Relevant to the discussion (be it top-level or deep in a thread), funny, and factual statements get updoots. Irrelevant comments, false information, poor argumentative skills, and conservative political get the downdoot.

glimse,

conservative political get the downdoot.

That’s shitty imo. I’m on the left but there’s plenty of conservative politics that aren’t extreme or worthy of burying.

My old coworker was conservative and we had some amazing conversations about politics and culture even though we usually didn’t budge much on our positions. He was my favorite person to talk to about it because he brought in “the other side” that I wasn’t otherwise exposed to.

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

Conservative like slow to change or conservative in the modern political sense which just means trying to undo any progress on personal rights?

glimse,

To the guy I replied to, they’re apparently one in the same. But I’m definitely referring to the former. Sometimes it’s nice to have someone telling you to pump the brakes when you’re cruising on an idea ya know?

Liberals (me included) tend to rely on momentum and sometimes we overshoot. The world needs all kinds of people - even if I disagree with most conservative viewpoints.

snooggums,
@snooggums@kbin.social avatar

I tend to avoid calling slow to change conservative because people and parties who self identify as conservative have been promoting regression on social issues, removing rights, xenophobia, racism, and sexism. They spoiled the term!

gamermanh,
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Those conversations happen so rarely that it’s not worth even considering that as a possibility until a reply or two has shown that they’re not going to stonewall the conversation.

In person things are one way, but on the anonymous Internet (especially lemmy and reddit) it’s people who are 100% not going to adjust their actively garbage views on things and thus deserve to be treated as the dickheads they too often are

If they don’t like being pre judged based on their political beliefs they should rethink why people have an inherant dislike of them, and maybe change. Or learn to deal with the consequences of having dogshit opinions

Rentlar,

My personal rules

Up = Like it, interesting novel take (even if I disagree), funny and clever

No vote with comment = disagree but worthwhile discussing, unintentional but incorrect and/or misleading info.

Down = Spam, low effort to the point it’s insulting (clearly not reading beyond the title), flaming and flamebaiting (this is a big one on forums like this everywhere), trolling, intentionally incorrect or misleading information, off-topic/irrelevant stuff.

Report = hate speech, violence against members of our communities, incessant trolling or flaming or flamebaiting (more than twice in a row).

KinNectar,
@KinNectar@kbin.run avatar

@Rentlar This, this is it. I nominate this list for the official Fediquette !

@TootSweet

Rentlar,

Thanks for the endorsement! If i run my own server them’s’ll be the rules.

I agree having a general ettiquite/cross-Fediverse rules of conduct that won’t get you banned on most servers. But (within the boundaries of law) I don’t mind if other servers want to impose more or fewer restrictions in keeping with such an ettiquite and how strict it’s enforced. Servers like Hexbear can go and do their silly thing so long as the “trolling the libs” kind of conduct is kept there.

fsxylo,

I never downvote and judge people who do.

It’s lazy fast food self validation that you’re superior to someone at the push of a button, and a big reason social media is shit.

roguetrick, (edited )

I let lurkers do the upvoting or downvoting unless it's really good or really bad Downvotes don't federate from or to kbin anyway.

rhythmisaprancer,
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

I didn't know about the down votes, thanks for sharing.

cobysev,

I tend to upvote if someone brings something unique to the discussion. If you’re just giving a quick generic response to OP or parroting the same opinion a dozen other people in the thread have already posted, then I’m gonna read your comment and keep going. But if you provide thoughtful content that promotes discussion, provides a unique perspective, or at least had a lot of thought put into it, I’m likely to upvote it. Same goes for the post itself.

I generally avoid downvoting, even if I disagree with the comment. But if someone is factually wrong, misleading, posting in bad faith, or just being a troll, I’ll downvote their comments in a thread and upvote anyone who attempts to be reasonable with them. If two people are just bickering back and forth, they both get downvotes. And as always, any comments that distract from the discussion or are off-topic will get a downvote.

rhythmisaprancer,
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

If two people are just bickering back and forth, they both get downvotes.

You made me think of this:

scene from blues brothers with nun

Nemo,

If it contributed to the conversation, I upvote. Especially if it’s well-written and informative.

If it’s off-topic, incorrect, or repetitive, I downvote.

If it’s banal or uninteresting but not actually deleterious to discourse or distracting from the topic, I don’t vote.

I upvote almost all replies to my comments, including those disagreeing with me, unless they clearly didn’t take the time to read and understand my comment.

I vote on almost all comments I reply to, as well.

Alatarius, (edited )

I use this method as well but I also use the criteria that if I learned something new that is interesting or useful in my life I will upvote. If it’s useless drivel or based on conspiracy theories then I downvote.

simple, (edited )

Upvoting: I like this post or it adds to the discussion/community (I want to see more of this)

Downvoting: This is spam, off topic, etc. or the poster is being an arse (in general, I want to see less of this)

Simple as.

SamsonSeinfelder, (edited )

Up: Time was worth reading

Down: Time wasted reading (I want my time back!)

snownyte,
@snownyte@kbin.social avatar

I rarely upvote/downvote anything. I've upvoted posts or comments that have actually made me laugh or are very thought provoking.

Downvotes start coming when I think a post is very retarded and/or has wasted my time reading that it gets what it deserves. Oh and repeated posts that aren't structured very well that the poster could've taken some time to word better but you know they're rushing it for validity.

gnuplusmatt,

my instance has downvotes disabled - it allows me to move on with my life. Only upping just seems more zen

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