ComradeR,

Churros! The recipe, by itself, is kinda easy. But, to do a really good one, it needs to be done in a perfect way. A very, very tiny error, while not ruining the recipe, will made a “maybe tasty, but not that good” one! I would rather to buy in a street food place and eat if I want to. I live in Brazil, so it is kinda easy to find one!

CaptPretentious,

Lefsa.

Making it solo is a monstrous pain in the butt. It’s so easy to screw up too.

art,
@art@lemmy.world avatar

French fries. When I make them at home they suck.

PleasantRain,

I find frozen fries from the grocery store that are either air fried or deep fried are pretty good. My fries from scratch have always been disappointing or an ordeal.

Crozekiel,

Honestly, brownies. From scratch versus box I hardly notice a difference and in some instances the box was better… And the box is a lot less work.

MedicPigBabySaver,

Everything!

I didn’t cook/bake growing up. I couldn’t care less about doing it now. I have a handful of places that have yummy food from steak to sushi. And a great bakery. I need not to spend a moment of my time doing anything more than eating & enjoying.

banneryear1868,

A lot of French cuisine. Not talking about laminated dough here which I’ve done many times. More so the complete modern French meal involving multiple reductions and real demiglace and all the techniques that seem to require a full restaurant process. It’s the one style of food I will go to a restaurant and happily pay for once in a while, I understand why it’s expensive to make and respect the skill it takes.

The other style I food I do this with is the very opposite, shitty fast food I can’t make at home.

snik,

mise en place ;) demi-glace you can make a couple of times a year in bulk and just freeze the little jello cubes, to have on hand whenever.

banneryear1868, (edited )

I don’t have enough meat scraps and carcasses coming through to make proper demi-glace or stock in the quantity I use so I prefer a dehydrated powder used in restaurant service for home use. My scraps usually end up in a single soup recipe.

And yeah I love making French stews and all that, and I make components of French meals, but I’m talking like a full contemporary French menu from appetizer to dessert. To me that’s a very simple menu, some basic ingredients of exceptional quality, each prepared in a way that makes them taste as good as they can using techniques it takes a lot of experience to get good at, with some experimental or playful element that isn’t too pretentious, then plated and presented in a creative way. That type of meal I will gladly pay for because it’s almost the fact someone else has imagined it and made it real that makes it worth it, like I wanna see what kind of tricks they’re doing that I wouldn’t have thought to do. Not only that but everything has to come together perfectly for it to work, and even if I know I can technically do it all, can I do it all at once by myself as a home cook? That’s why I respect the restaurant process for this style of food.

pinkdrunkenelephants,

Curry paste

cashews_best_nut,

Anything with a lot of Indian spices. I just buy the paste in jars.

IchNichtenLichten,
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I used to do this but after falling down a YouTube rabbit hole I can make a balti from scratch very quickly. Onions, garlic, ginger, chilies, tomatoes + coriander powder, turmeric, chili powder, garam masala, dried fenugreek leaves.

Throw in some chicken and finish with coriander (cilantro for the Americans)

drphungky,

Wide rice noodles. If you’ve ever tried to make pad kee mao (drunken noodle) with dried rice noodles you know it’s essentially not even worth it. The noodles are too important to the dish and the dried ones curl up and are just awful. My wife and I eventually figured out how to make fresh wide rice noodles and while it’s very simple to do so (rice flour slurry into a cake pan, steam it) it’s very laborious and time intensive. I’ll do some laborious stuff (bake my own bread, homemade yogurt and soft cheese, pasta and red sauce etc) but damn if one of my favorite foods isn’t too much work for all but special occasions.

Thank god we found a place a mile away that sells fresh noodles. Now we can have it whenever we want.

Subverb,

I got a non-stick crepe pan as a wedding gift. Makes it a lot easier.

angstylittlecatboy,

Pizza. Every time I’ve tried it’s stuck to the stone and when I just got something to cook it was no better than the local place.

TonyTonyChopper,
@TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

did u add corn meal

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In,

Hotter oven

Drier dough

Thinner crust

Less sauce/ toppings

Flour the pizza spatula

skooma_king,

Try shaping and topping the pizza on parchment paper. After being on the hot stone for ~3 mins, you can just slide the paper out from under the pizza.

0ops,

If you preheat the Stone and send the pizza off a wooden peal (which will take some practice, granted), the dough will start to crisp right away and it shouldn’t be stuck at all when you go to turn it in a few minutes. You don’t even need oil. Cooking cold pizza from a cold stone though, that makes sticking much more likely. Also like that other guy said, use a little bit of cornmeal and flour under the pie, or I hear you can use semolina flour, which is courser apparently.

Aux,

Dried pasta is superior to fresh pasta. It is impossible to make it at home.

wildcardology,

Do you have the right equipment to make fresh pasta? If you’re doing it manually then it may as well be impossible.

Aux,

Fresh pasta cannot be al dente, it’s useless for most traditional Italian pasta dishes. And it is near impossible to make dry pasta at home.

Socsa,

You must be trolling, it’s 45s to make the dough in a food processor and the sauce actually clings to the noodles.

Aux,

Fresh pasta doesn’t have proper al dente chew, it gives a cheap instant noodle mouth feel. The sauce clings the same. To any pasta.

Socsa,

You are making it wrong then.

Aux,

What do you mean wrong? It’s just a fact.

TempermentalAnomaly,

Fresh pasta and dried pasta are two different ingredients that serve different purposes. It’s impossible to get a fresh pasta al dente and unlikely that most home chefs have an extruder to get round shapes. The tougher texture allows it to stand up against hearty sauces.

Fresh pasta, however, has it’s own merits such a delicate texture that pairs well with delicate sauces. That delicate, silky texture isn’t achievable with dried pasta which would become mushy when trying.

Aux,

I agree that they’re two different ingredients, but most Italian pasta dishes require dried pasta. The biggest exception is probably gnocchi, they’re always fresh.

TempermentalAnomaly,

It’s hard for me to say what is most dishes. I’ve never been to Italy and haven’t studied pasta making deeply, so it’s hard to say. From my limited understanding you pair cream sauces with fresh egg pastas. And in my opinion, stuffed pastas are also enjoyable when fresh.

Aux,

Well, I’ve been to Italy many times and I have Italian friends, one of them actually worked in a restaurant in Italy. Most Italian dishes use dried pasta and they use it for a reason. You can learn more about dried pasta here youtube.com/playlist?list=PLURsDaOr8hWXz_CFEfPH2w…

TempermentalAnomaly,

Okay. First, apologies. I see my intent wasn’t clear in my initial posting. I posted that under your response because I saw many responses that confused fresh pasta as being a direct replacement to dried pasta. Instead of replying to each instance of confusion, I figured I’d put a response under your initial reply. I should have been more clear when responding.

It’s surprising to hear that there’s not too many dishes that use fresh pasta. I always assumed there would be a fair amount of both dried and fresh. Thanks for the info.

I appreciate the link to the playlist. I really like Alex’s videos.

Aux,

No worries, we’re just having a civil discussion here (:

As for dried pasta popularity, according to many internet sources, it became popular somewhere around 14th and 15th century, I guess Italians had plenty of time to adjust their cuisine. Dried pasta also has a benefit of long storage, which was important in their warm climate before the invention of an affordable domestic refrigerator in 20th century.

TempermentalAnomaly,

I remember coming across an early (either 12th or 13th century) pasta recipe. It was a simple fresh noodle in a delicately spiced broth, and, importantly, delicious.

What facinstes me is the status of fresh pasta in the American gastronomical context. It has achieved an ascendent status as demonstrated in this video. I’m sure many of the shapes are dried and I see this video as primarily entertainment and not necessarily an achievable thing for most home cooks. But it shapes an ideal for the viewing population.

I suspect that pasta will become one thing in America and another in Italy if it hasn’t already. I think looking at pizza in America, NYC in particular, vs pizza in Italy could provide an anthropological template.

Much ranting, I know. But hopefully interesting!

Aux,

Well, I’ve never been to US, so I don’t know much about American food and learning something is always great!

drphungky,

This is wild. I even thought lasagna was worth the minimal effort before, but I just got KitchenAid attachments for Christmas and it’s insanely easy. You mix the dough in the bowl, and then flatten a couple times, run through the slicer, put in the water and it boils way faster than dried. It’s also so so much better than dried.

I’m with you on like, ravioli though. Also we occasionally made wide rice noodles from scratch for Thai cooking and while they’re not technically hard, they’re very labor intensive and time consuming. The problem is the difference between them and dried is night and say - dried wide rice noodles arent even really worth eating. Finally found a shop that sells them fresh though so we are golden.

Aux,

Fresh pasta cannot be al dente, it’s useless for most traditional Italian pasta dishes. And it is near impossible to make dry pasta at home.

MrCrankyBastard,

There’s a lot, most of which I make anyway for sake of cost/volume ratios, but in no particular order…

Tomato paste (love to use, can’t be arsed to make my own), sriracha (like it but don’t use enough for the amount I make), waffles (don’t crave them nearly as much as I used to), scotch eggs (love 'em, hate making 'em), pickled asparagus (which really sucks because they’re so good), lotus root chips (maybe if I had a fry daddy, air fried just doesn’t do it), chicarrones (lots off local places make 'em fresh and cheap), horchata (same), meat pies (there’s a local Brit shop that sells 'em), falafel (lots of local vendors), jalebi (way too much work)…

charlytune,
@charlytune@mander.xyz avatar

Stuffed vine leaves. I made them once for a gathering I had and they took me about 3 hours in all. Everyone loved them but for the time they took me, and how much of a pain in the arse they were to make, it wasn’t worth it. The ready made ones in tins are just fine.

Strawberry,

döner and shawarma are si amazing but I don’t see how to scale it down well. maybe for a barbecue

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