What's a food you love, that isn't worth making from scratch?
For me, crepes ain’t worth the stress to make fresh. Just buy a little pack from store and focus on filling is my go to.
For me, crepes ain’t worth the stress to make fresh. Just buy a little pack from store and focus on filling is my go to.
Zevlen, Albertsons antipasta pasta (salad).
Guster, Ribs, just but them Ready for cook
fubarx, (edited ) Xiao long bao (aka soup dumpling). Also, made from scratch Tonkotsu Ramen.
Tried making them both. So much work.
AnExerciseInFalling, (edited ) Gyoza/potstickers/dumplings
I will inhale plates of em and the time it takes to wrap em made me both appreciate the food more and appreciate the premade ones so much more
jol, In the same line, gnocchi.
kaffiene, Crepes? Jesus, they’re one of the easiest things you can cook. Anyway, to answer your question: croissants! I’ve made them from scratch before and it definitely wasn’t worth it. Took half a day and weren’t a patch on the real thing
victorz, Even I can make crepes lol. Have one of those small pans. Make the batter, open the butter, get cracking.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In, Let the batter sit for 30 mins in the fridge
victorz, Included in “make the batter” but yep, important step not to be forgotten 👌
Rednax, Do you means from absolute scratch? Here in the Netherlands it is common to buy a can of pre-made dough for croissants. You have to roll and bake them yourself, and adding some egg is also a great idea. But it is technically not entirely from scratch.
They taste way better than the pre-baked ones that you have to re-heat. Absolutely worth the minimal effort.
june, What you describe is not making from scratch at all. Those are premade save the final couple of steps, no different than a frozen pizza from the grocery store. No one gets a frozen pizza and says they made it from scratch.
Auriel, What do you mean re-heat? Are you heating the ones from the bakery before you eat them? Are they not eaten cold in the Netherlands?
ericbomb, I have a mental block against making things one by one that have like 20 calories in them.
Brain says small things bad unless can make a million at a time.
And yeah screw making those things from scratch.
Strawberry, (edited ) yeah it is annoying when using a small pan/stove as opposed to a giant griddle where one crepe is actually a lot
Elderos, (edited ) A crepe is like 100 calories and you can pour like 5 in less than 10 minutes. But anyway, to reach their own. personally I hate chopping stuff even if it takes 1 minute.
Chobbes, I was surprised by this too! I mean I can understand thinking that crepes will be hard because they’re pretty dainty and might be delicate, but they’re surprisingly easy to do.
Lennnny, (edited ) Pho. I have a killer recipe for the instant pot but it basically works out to the same price as just buying it from our local takeout. And they’re Vietnamese.
Jakdracula, Can you share the recipe please?
Appoxo, Pretty please.
Lennnny, Attached above!
Appoxo, ty :)
Lennnny, (edited ) So sorry, I forgot to reply.
Pho
Ingredients MEAT:
- 1 packet of oxtail
- 1/2 packet of tendon
- 1 packet of flank (add this when plating up)
- 1 packet of vietnamese meatballs (these cook separately to the other meat)
CHARRED VEG- 1 root of ginger (around 3 inches long), unpeeled, cut in half lengthways
- 1 onion, skinned and cut in half
FLAVORS- 10 pieces of star anise (aniseed)
- 1 tablespoon coriander seed
- 1 cinnamon stick
- 1 tablespoon salt
- 1 clump of rock sugar
- 6 tablespoons of fish sauce
- MSG (? amount)
TOPPINGS- Fresh Cilatro
- Culantro (sawtooth, big leafy shit)
- Basil
- Green onion
- Lime
- Sliced onions
- Bean sprouts
- Hoisin Sauce
- Sriracha
OTHER- Rice Noodles
Bring a big pot of water to the boil and drop the meat (except the meatballs and flank) into the boiling water. Furiously boil for 10 minutes. Drain and wash the meat under the tap.
Turn on the broiler, put the ginger and onion in, cut side up, until nicely charred.
Fill the instant pot to 1 inch below full line (12 cups/3 quarts or a little more). Add the washed meat (not the meatballs, not the flank) to the water and adjust water if overfilled. Then add the charred veg and the flavor ingredients.
Lid on, pressure cook button and set to 1 hour and 30 minutes. Prep toppings. Add the noodles to cold water and soak for at least 30 minutes. Let the pressure cooker depressurize naturally when done. During this time, prepare a pot of boiling water for the meatballs and noodles.
Once the Instant Pot beeps finished, boil the meatballs in water for 10 minutes. When these are done, remove, and leave the water boiling ready for the noodles. When ready to serve, dip the noodles in the boiling water for 1-2 minutes and remove immediately.
Open Instant Pot and remove meat to cut and plate. Strain the broth. If you have time, strain it a second time through a piece of kitchen towel to remove extra impurities. Return broth pot to Instant Pot and turn to low saute - taste and adjust seasonings as needed.
Plate up the food, starting with noodles, then meat, flank, broth, then toppings and sauce. Get slurpy.
Jakdracula, Thanks!
user1234, Cheese
Salad_Fries, This 100%…
It is so expensive/time consuming/finicky for a product that best case scenario is comparable to store bought.
MeanEYE, Depends on type. Some cheese is easy to produce. Others require a lot of effort, time, controlled environment, etc.
SupraMario, Squeaky cheese! So damn expensive if your in any other state other than WI…
MeanEYE, Squeaky cheese
Didn’t know this was a thing. Niice. One more thing to add to the list of things to try.
flambonkscious, Paneer or even better, halloumi?
RBWells, Paneer I only like homemade, but it’s so easy I hesitate to call it cheese. Pressed curds. Halloumi I don’t like, and what’s funny is I was just thinking today that now that I like swiss I like every cheese in existence but forgot about Halloumi.
drphungky, Yeah I’ll probably never buy ricotta again after making homemade, unless I was really in a pinch for time I guess. You save a decent chunk of change on home made too. Mozzarella I’d go either way on.
JWBananas, I challenge you to do it this week.
banneryear1868, (edited ) Was gonna throw Dominique Ansel’s crepe process up, it’s what I use now. Grew up making crepes this way with my Mennonite grandma (minus the pan caramel), but the way he mixes the dough is a lot smarter to not have any lumps.
HipsterTenZero, i have depression and adhd so it varies between every food and no food based on the rng going on in the ol’ endocrine
ericbomb, Sometimes brain say making gnocchi is no big deal.
Other times, grill cheese too much.
Krauerking, I just remind myself that I once thought it was a good idea to make an entire thanksgiving dinner for 3 people using a college dorm kitchen, and then the idea of frying a cheese sandwich doesn’t seem that daunting.
Tip though for grilled cheese is butter the pan not the bread.
hydrospanner, Interesting tip…I’ve never thought of doing it that way but it would eliminate my prime annoyance with the process (cold butter tearing the bread).
Krauerking, Seriously it’s the perfect way to do it. You know your pan is hot enough. The butter is nicely browned. I do find a small pan is the right way to keep a good layer but if you have a slightly larger pan using a spatula to keep the butter contained to one space and then put in the grilled cheese while the butter’s still a little solid works too. It’s probably been more than a decade since I last buttered the bread not the pan and I’m not even 30 it’s just the best way.
stackPeek, I can’t cook, so basically almost all the food in the world
SatansMaggotyCumFart, Cooking is one of those things you have to do at least twice a day so I can’t understand not taking the time to learn unless you live in New York City and only have a hot plate or something.
Krauerking, Because you don’t have to do it twice a day. We live in a society of people with lots of skills so having others that handle the cooking and you handle some other important beneficial task would be fine.
And then to fill space between wanting to eat what everyone else is having, using preserved or easy to eat items at home would fill the gap. That would be a rational society though. But we all need to be individually independent.
southsamurai, (edited ) Tbh, not much.
That being said, spaghetti sauce. Yeah, home made is better, but “doctoring” a jarred sauce gets 95% as good without hours of work. You can’t fix the canned shit, but I’ve not found a jarred sauce that I can’t tweak with fresh herbs and some quickly sweated aromatics and end up with something that people love. It also satisfies my picky ass. Now, I will say that fucking ragu is pretty shit overall, and doctoring it only goes so far. But it is still good enough that making sauce from scratch ain’t happening.
Edit:
There seems to be a lot of range in spaghetti sauce recipes. It’s also important to note that I’m not talking about marinara.
So, the real time involved is split between prep and simmering.
Here’s how we do it. Remember this is an american talking here, so don’t redirect expect something traditionally Italian. And I’m a southerner that’s mostly german and Scots-Irish, so don’t expect any new York style stuff lol.
You take your tomatoes, skin them however you prefer. I use a quick dip in boiling water, aka blanching.
You give those peeled tomatoes a rough chop into nice size chunks. Now, the kind of tomato matters for that because something like a roma e isn’t gong to need as many chops as a beefsteak. You’d usually be using something like a roma anyway, but if your neighbor drops off a giant bucket of tomatoes, you can only use what you got, you know?
You chop up an onion, maybe two. You mince some garlic, maybe half a bulb if you really like garlic. I love garlic, so I go heavy.
Now, that’s your usual start. Most people in my family don’t add anything else in the way of veggies. Me? I like to char a couple of red or yellow bell peppers, skin them, and get them in there too. If I’m feeling frisky, I might have zucchini, eggplant, or whatever else cut up and ready to add at the appropriate time too, but that’s optional.
You get the onions sweating. While they’re starting, you feet your herbs together. Idgaf about fresh vs dried, each has benefits for flavor, you do what you prefer. I do oregano, basil, marjoram, a little thyme, and that’s it. I’m simple.
A little black pepper, a little salt (you really don’t need much, maybe a teaspoon for a big batch; salt your damn pasta water instead) to taste.
Once the onions are almost ready, I add the peppers since the quick char and steam to peel them tends to get them halfway cooked anyway.
This is around a half hour of work for most people. For me, it’s closer to an hour. Yay disability!
Then you add your tomatoes, herbs, and any optional veggies. Bring to boil, reduce to simmer.
After that, it’s patience. You’re making sure any veggies added are tender, and after that it’s cooking things down and letting the flavors develop. And, I promise you, anything under a half hour of simmering isn’t going to taste right, and will be super runny. You’ll usually have what amounts to chunky tomato water until close to the hour mark. For a big pot (my biggest is 6 quarts, and it starts damn near full when I do it) an hour and a half is bare minimum for the right thickness.
Now, if you’re going to jar that up, you’re done except for that part, which isn’t involved in what I originally said.
If you’re going to add meat, you’ll want to start browning it off about a half hour ahead of when the thickness will be right. You add the cooked meat in and let it simmer for 15 minutes at minimum. Do yourself a favor and deglaze the pan used with a nice, semisweet red wine, add that to the pot and go at least a half hour after adding it.
Now, exactly how long it needs to simmer is variable because you’re dealing with tomatoes, and the water content varies between varieties, time of year, weather conditions, etc. But I’ve never had a full sized batch take less than an hour and a half counting from the initial bring-to-boil stage.
I dunno, maybe there’s time savers I’ve never thought of. Maybe the folks saying it’s a half hour are doing a different version of “from scratch”, or whatever. But that’s how we do it, and it’s pretty much what the typical recipes I’ve seen online do (I went and checked because I wondered if I was crazy lol), plus or minus some details that don’t really change simmer time.
I’ve had some batches need a full two hours of simmering. And, yeah, you don’t have to stand over the pot the whole time, but chances are you’ll still be in the kitchen cleaning, keeping an eye on things stirring occasionally, adding any herbs or spices to adjust taste as it goes, etc. So it isn’t like you can just pop down to the local pub (or equivalent in your location) and go by time alone. You’ll still be in the general vicinity, with the added heat and humidity from cooking.
But that’s why I rarely go from scratch. I can pick up a jar of whatever, add some herbs, extra garlic and/or onions, brown any meat and then the deglaze and be done in under an hour from start to finish, including prep. The taste isn’t the same, nor is the texture, but it’s still yummy.
ericbomb, Oh yeah I tried eating some out of the jar and BLEH.
Just more Garlic makes such a difference in most jars.
ReiRose, I came here to hard disagree, especially with the crepes example, but egg on my face and apologies all around: I am with you regarding spaghetti sauce.
conciselyverbose, I just don't consider any of that an answer to the question. For the most part, nobody is expecting every individual ingredient of a meal to be made from the raw ingredients (I don't actually think sauce is a lot of hands on work, but I don't usually bother to make it either). While I have a pasta maker and love fresh homemade pasta, if I make a lasagna from store bought noodles, jarred sauce, and store bought ricotta, nobody is going to yell at me for calling it homemade. The version with fresh pasta, homemade sauce, and homemade ricotta is going to be better (OK, I haven't done ricotta so I might make it gross), but the first one still counts.
Rai, I’m the exact opposite on spaghetti sauce. I find an incredible sauce is very easy to make heaps of with San Marzano tomatoes and tastes almost zero effort, just lots of time. But then I have like ten spaghettis’ worth and it’s wrecks shop on any jar sauce!
Guster, Hours? Literally takes half an hour and you can just leave it donits own thing while its working in the pot lol
southsamurai, Apparently, either my family recipe is a shit ton more complex than the norm, or in not talking about the same kind of sauce other people are lol.
SkippingRelax, Italian scratching his head here. I can think of only one particular type of ragu that takes a few hours to make properly and is obviously not what’s being discussed here due to jars, doctoring sweating and general confusion.
Mate putting together a tomato sauce from scratch for some spaghetti shouldn’t take longer than the time it takes to the water to boil plus the 9 or so minutes that it takes to cook the pasta you are overthinking it
Rai, My sauces take a few hours to make, but they’re insanely good.
I made ragu for the first time about a year ago, and it was outstanding. I gotta make some more of that.
june, (edited ) Pretty sure they’re talking about the brand Ragu, which is some of the cheapest jarred spaghetti sauce you can get in the US.
That said, toss me one of those easy tasty sauce recipes?
southsamurai, Yeah, I’m talking about the brand ragu.
Also, it seems that my family recipe is more involved than the norm lol
RBWells, I’m American, and do use jarred sauce if I have it, but more often what I have is tomato paste, a half bottle of wine hanging out in the refrigerator and some garlic or olive oil and butter. Anchovies. Usually have canned peeled tomatoes too, but those do have to cook awhile to taste good.
I guess I don’t set out to replicate jarred sauce, generally speaking, but can quickly dress pasta for supper with something good.
first_must_burn, I learned from America’s Test Kitchen to look at the ingredients. If the first ingredient is tomato paste or tomato concentrate, pass. If it is tomatoes, it will probably be fine. Although usually this means a more expensive jar, there are plenty of expensive/fancy looking jars that don’t pass this test.
That said, Del Grosso’s has a premium line with “Aunt Mary Anne’s Marinara”. It is our go-to and far and away the best I’ve tried.
kerrigan778, Honestly it’s the price that makes jarred sauce not worth it for me. They’ve gotten ridiculous.
southsamurai, They have, haven’t they? Mind you everything is getting ridiculous, but still.
june, I’m a huge fan of Rao’s sauce, but the price jumped from about $4 a jar to $10 last year and I just can’t justify that. I sometimes find it on sale for under $5 and def grab it, but it’s rare these days.
0ops, I used to doctor storebought sauces too. Recently though, I’ve just been buying those cans of cento crushed tomatoes. They’re a blank slate, and probably better quality tomatoes too.
catsdoingcatstuff, Bubble tea. I’ve made everything from scratch before, but it’s so much easier to just buy one and let someone else cook the boba.
idunnololz, (edited ) Yeah the biggest annoyance is the tapioca. It’s hard to get just right (chewy but not too soft), you cant really make large batches and save it for later and it takes a long time just to make a single serving for one drink.
Guntrigger, Gaufre de liège. I made a very authentic version once, involving making a brioche type dough over a few days, giving time to rise and for the perle sugar to rest. Best waffles I’ve ever had, but so much trouble.
I haven’t found them outside Central Europe and miss them so much I have been thinking about making that dough again…
Kolanaki, (edited ) Mashed potatoes.
The “just add hot water” things are just as good, if not better since they come in all sorts of flavors.
Edit: The snobbery here is astounding. They’re potatoes!
No shade; it’s just funny that mashed potatoes are so derisive lol
AnalogyAddict, Uh, no. Homemade mashed potatoes are easy and way better.
supamanc, Jesus, this hurts my soul…
grasshopper_mouse, I’m with you on this one. It’s one of the few things I refuse to make from scratch on Thanksgiving. I don’t know how or why, but every time I’ve tried to make them from scratch they get fucked up and turn into an inedible mess. I consider myself a decent cook and so does everyone else I’ve ever cooked for, but I cannot make mashed potatoes from scratch.
otp, That was one of the first things I learned how to cook that wasn’t between two pieces of bread.
I’m not a good cook by any means – it just surprises me that mashed potatoes would be one of “those” foods for someone who can actually cook!
ryathal, It’s probably how you mash them, if you over mash them they get gummy. It’s really easy with a mixer or blender to overdo it.
sab, (edited ) In terms of nutritional value it's actually quite a huge difference, with homemade mashed potatoes being a lot better for you. Something about food being healthier when it's less processed.
Still, the powder one is not the worst thing, and boiling up potatoes takes too long some days. I like keeping some texture though, so for me it's homemade whenever I feel like having it. :)
Kolanaki, (edited ) They’re literally just dehydrated potatoes cut into flakes. Nothing is lost.
sab, (edited ) It's more recent science, but it seems every step of processing food (boiling, mashing, drying etc) breaks down cell structures, and that this in turn can make it harder for the body to take up nutrition. So you end up eating more but getting less nutritional value.
Research is still ongoing though, and of course mashed potatoes from powder is obviously still much better than ultra-processed food.
Kolanaki, This is just a thesis…
Soulfulginger, If homemade mash tastes exactly like the box to you, you’re doing something wrong when you make them. I’m not saying instant is bad to have in a pinch, but having the dehydrated potatos in flakes immediately makes them starchier and have a more gluey consistency. Plus, there are tons of additives that definitely make it taste different from freshly cooked potatoes.
Kolanaki, (edited ) If your flakes come out gluey, you’re not using enough liquids to rehydrate it. I feel like everyone disagreeing here likes lumpy potatoes. One person already admit they don’t even remove the skin when they make theirs. Gross. They’re supposed to be smooth and creamy.
Soulfulginger, (edited ) I skin the potatoes and use a ricer. They are very smooth and creamy, not lumpy. I actually like boxed potatoes, but fresh still taste 10x better
RBWells, That’s me! This has to be a fundamental difference in what we consider mashed potatoes. You are going for something textureless and processed like whipped potato porridge, I like them to be, well, mashed potatoes. Recognizably potatoes, mashed up and seasoned. The pressure cooked ones are fluffy as hell, they yield to a gentle fork smash.
RBWells, My stepson, the first time I was around for his birthday, asked me specifically for “mashed potatoes made from potatoes”. I don’t think most people would agree with you on this one. Instant pot whole potatoes, mash with milk and butter, salt and pepper. I never peel them. So good and so easy.
catsdoingcatstuff, Santa (aka my credit card) brought me an instant pot for Christmas. Do you have pressure and times for the potatoes? I didn’t even think of cooking them in there and then mashing.
Kolanaki, so easy
Peeling, boiling, mashing, mixing taking like 30-60 minutes, depending on how much you’re making vs 3 minutes boiling water in a microwave and mixing a bag of flakes in for the same starch paste.
Any differences are marginal and so not worth the effort and time it takes.
RBWells, I am not peeling nor boiling, have never peeled a potato. Boiling them in chunks I agree won’t yield something so much better than dehydrated powdered potatoes - that puts too much water into the equation and makes them similarly gluey. You can microwave chunked potatoes and mash them if you don’t have a pressure cooker or instant pot.
Yes it takes longer than boiling water but in the context of cooking other things it’s easy and potatoes pressure cooked whole are so fluffy and easy to mash.
I have used the flakes for potato bread, they are useful like dry milk is. But just like dry milk, or instant coffee, something is lost in drying and rehydration.
This is a very subjective prompt though - if the marginal time savings are worth it to you, they are. I don’t usually have an urgent timeline for mashed potatoes so letting them cook while I do other stuff works out.
0ops, I don’t peel, wait to boil, or even mix. I’ll literally throw whole garlic cloves in at once, and between the heat and the mashing they’ll take care of themselves. It also helps a lot of you have an actual potato masher and you’re not just using a spoon or something. Unlike this gif I found though, I just mash them in the pot as they cook. https://media.tenor.com/6A0aFauRdZ8AAAAM/super-recipes-foodie.gif
southsamurai, Yeah, flavor wise, there’s not any significant difference. Texture wise, that’s where scratch cooked excels. But if you’re going to rice it or cook it down all the way anyway? Dehydrated is going to be as tasty once finished.
Delphia, If you just follow the directions, you’re a heathen.
But if you’re going to disregard the directions and add cream, butter, salt, pepper etc. Then you can get a result thats almost as good.
Cralder, But making mashed potatoes from scratch is so easy and has way better texture.
Btw when you say “they come in all sorts of flavours”, what does that mean? Like strawberry or something? I have never seen flavoured mashed potatoes. Is it an American thing?
Kolanaki, Like “fully loaded baked potato” and “roasted garlic.”
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mhredox, Fried chicken.
It’s soo good but not worth the hassle of dealing with all the oil.
Although, I’ve since found that air-fried, if done right, can be just as good.
ericbomb, Oh man same.
Dealing with having to deep fry for a single meal is such a pain.
9715698, Any air fryer method you would recommend?
mhredox, (edited )
- Fry at 360⁰F for 12 mins
- Flip them and fry again at 360⁰F for 12 mins
- Flip again and fry for 6 mins at 400⁰F
They should come out super crispy but still very juicy on the inside.The one drawback is that it takes a total of 30 mins and you can only make as much as fits in your frier. You really want to have only one layer of wings and not have them laying on top of each other. My frier is fairly small so it’s not something I can make for a whole bunch of people.
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks, I got a deep fryer that goes on the countertop and has a temperature deal. The lid fits over the basket so I don’t have to get anywhere near the oil when it’s hot. When I’m done frying, there’s a temperature-sensitive mechanism to drain the oil into a box below to store it until next time (it can be reused a few times). The part that holds the oil when frying gets wiped out and tossed in the dishwasher. The only thing I really have to deal with washing is the heating element. It turns deep frying from absolutely not worth trying to deal with the mess/temperature/hot oil/cleanup to something I’m willing to do more than once a year. Don’t let your fry dreams be dreams!
Kusimulkku, I don’t remember the oil being much of a hassle tbh
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