I find that i can spot AI Images fairly easily these days, especially the sort of fantastical tableaus that get posted to the various AI communities around lemmy. I’m tired of seeing them; it all looks the same to me. Was wondering if im being too sensitive, or if other people are similarly bored of the constant unimaginative AI spam…
For the record, I block any explicit AI Art communities that pop up in the feed, but there are more every day…
I enjoy them. They’re usually quite creative, and I’m constantly amazed at what the technology can accomplish. I frequently forget that I can turn to DALL-E when I want pictures of specific things, and those posts remind me.
To me, if they are contained to communities setup for AI generated images and there is some effort to mark or identify them as AI, I don’t mind them. Its when they get posted outside those spaces, especially posing as something someone made, that it gets very annoying.
AI art is a turn off for me. Not just for how it looks, but how it disrespects the works of millions of artists and its users complete disregard to their welfare.
Unless of course the author made it before an arbitrary date in time, or if they failed to follow every single rule required to copyright it, or if they were a citizen of a country that didn’t have a treaty in place, or if the owner is a corporation and it hasn’t been a billion years since the author died, or if the estate of the author was split between more than one person and a subset agrees but the others do not…
That’s the thing with this crap. It is all based on what the very wealthy wanted not based on what helped artists and not based on what made sense. So of course the Church of Scientology can keep religious texts away from the public, of course Disney will always own Mickey Mouse, of course some small poor culture doesn’t have a right to a single dime from the marketing of their heritage, off course the general public doesn’t have a right to their own culture, and of course it is perfectly fine to endlessly sell something you didn’t create because the publisher messed up a word in a legal blurb.
It’s a shit system and I won’t defend a shit system. I wonder why you do.
Because I empathize with people who’ve spent their life learning a trade, honing a skill that are facing poverty because people have found a turbo charged way to steal their work and not pay them.
Right very noble of you. I mean that in a non-snarky way.
So let me ask you: under the current system are artists doing well? I just checked the BLS and simple math shows that 0.04% of the US population writes for a living. The country producing the most magazines+news stories+TV+movies+blogs+etc. only pays 0.04% of its population a wage enough to do this full-time. To give you an idea of scale 0.45% of the US population works for Walmart. Go to a Walmart and if you see 11 employees standing there there is one writer.
This is the problem with nostalgia. It makes you pine for a world that never existed to begin with. There wasn’t some Golden Age where artists were free and paid well that we need to suppress tech to recover. Being a creative has always been a shit show. And yeah it sucks but it isn’t like it didn’t suck a year ago.
This is pivoting away from the issue: companies are training AI on professional artwork owned by professional artists without compensation, permission or attribution. The leaders of Open AI recently admitted that being unable to use copyrighted materials would mean they wouldn’t be able to offer a meaningful service.
They openly admit that they have to disregard the ownership of others property—that others spent their time to create and depend on for their livelihood—in order to make money themselves. That should be the end of it if we cared about the impact technology has on strangers we don’t know. Instead we selfishly say that’s progress.
It honestly depends on a community. On Ten Forward, where I’m a mod, we have banned AI posts because, at least this was my reasoning, they never do Star Trek right. I also mod on Lemmy Shitpost and, in general, I’m pretty lenient with them there as long as it isn’t so lazy that someone practically typed in ‘funny meme.’
That said, I’m also on another forum where an AI art thread that began with the first Dall-E has become mostly us finding ways to put Godzilla in ridiculous situations. Now that is a fun use of AI.
I don’t mind AI art at all as long as it’s not posted in any art of photo based communities (besides ones intended for AI art.)
When it comes to memes, I don’t even care if those are labeled as containing AI art. Memes are naturally derivative, so labeling it as AI art would be like linking the exact stock photo you used. Wouldn’t be mad if we did label them though. Just don’t want there to be a double standard.
Encountering AI art in photo communities is super annoying though. It’s increasingly common for people to submit obviously AI photos and that’s super annoying.
I am ok with clearly-labeled posts that are in dedicated comms and occassionally enjoy examples of the shitshow that the models produce when they hallucinate. However, if the model is trained on works without authorization from and compensation to the creators of its training data, I find their use beyond ethically-questionable.
Can someone explain to me what the difference is between AI art and students imitating an artist? What happens when the AI actually gains the ability to experiment “outside the box” - what we call creativity?
Can someone explain to me what the difference is between AI art and students imitating an artist?
Students are people who cannot truly copy art even if they wanted to. Pius, everyone generally does art their own way because… that is the point of art.
Image generation models just copy patterns from existing images, there is no process of artistic creation, nothing to interpret, no process… AI generated images are just pretty noise.
What happens when the AI actually gains the ability to experiment “outside the box” - what we call creativity?
It cannot do that just by design. It’s not a thinking thing, calling these models AI is really a misnomer and more of a marketing thing than a description of what it really is.
Image generation models just copy patterns from existing images, there is no process of artistic creation, nothing to interpret, no process… AI generated images are just pretty noise
Unlike the creativity that is on display by humans. Which is why every adult cartoon looks nothing like Family Guy.
So long as it’s not spammed in the All section post after post after post, I’m okay with it being here since I can just easily scroll past it and ignore it.
I don’t really get it. Reminds me of the guys who’d send each other fractal images on floppy disks in the early 90s, which they must have got something out of, but to everyone else it’s just pictures of maths.
I feel like ai art is getting better and better. I’m not necessarily interested in it, but when art/food/pet pics pop up on my feed, I was never looking for them either.
I think it’s normal to hide them, but to feel bothered seems a bit drastic.
It is getting better and better. It’s to the point that if you are mocking it for bad hands, then you are actually out of touch with where it is now. Bad hands is almost a dead meme.
It’s weird how “old” earlier Midjourney stuff looks to me now.
I posted a (labeled) AI-generated piece of art to a Star Trek shitposting community and a mod removed it because they didn’t want AI generated images, even if labeled.
It didn’t make me mad at all, I just found it interesting and kind of ironic
Seriously, I feel like the only artists that have to worry about AI are the incompetent ones. Are you really that scared about something that lacks originality by nature? If so, you’re probably just doing soul-sucking grunt work…
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