PixellatedDave, It isn’t just the salary though. I am convinced that there is enough wealth to go around so nobody has to live in fear any more.
MTK, One that would leave me not thinking about it anymore
intensely_human, Laid back, with my mind on my honey and my honey on my mind
Appoxo, (edited ) >5k gross
Iceblade02, 5k€ (equivalent, inflation adjusted), per month
HelixDab2, I don’t have a solid answer.
Money alone isn’t going to make me happy. Yeah, it removes a lot of one type of stress. But it can also be a trap. Like, I’m doing solidly okay in my job, but it’s enough that I can’t easily quit and start over in a different career, even though I stopped caring about this one a decade ago. And a high-paying job can come with a lot of other stressors, things that keep you working harder and longer hours than you otherwise would.
$100k would probably seem pretty good for a long time, given where I currently live. If I had to live in NYC, I’d probably say more like $500k.
Chainweasel, Enough that I’m not completely broke before my next paycheck.
Seriously, that’s all it would take for me to be happy, a little bit of disposable income.
Kolanaki, $1,000/week UBI.
Silentiea, I mean
Silentiea, It’s not exactly a lot of money, but I would definitely stop working the stupid delivery job and just focus on education if I had that.
intensely_human, What would you like to be educated in?
Silentiea, I meant I’d keep working in education, but I would also keep seeking education of all sorts. IT and science mainly.
A_Random_Idiot, (edited ) a 1500monthly UBI would be life changing to a lot of people.
and probably allow people to meet basic needs if they cracked down on corporate greed and its fake inflation.
intensely_human, The inflation isn’t “fake” and it’s not a result of greed. The greed has always been there, during periods of hyperinflation and during periods of stability.
The thing that changed is the competition, which naturally counterbalances the greed, has been reduced during the pandemic.
stoy, I’d be happy with 50k SEK/month after tax with the current inflation.
tdawg, The day I got signed on for 120k was the day all my financial anxieties went away. I’m not rich by any means. My rent is still stupid high. My bills never stop coming in. But I can finally afford furniture. I can finally afford to visit my family when I want to. I don’t worry about min-maxing at the grocery store. I’m not “happy” but it’s the closest I’ve ever been
morphballganon, That sounds like a pretty good number to me too. Currently quite a bit lower.
EinfachUnersetzlich, 120k what? Bananas per hour?
Zess, That is far too many bananas. You wouldn’t even be able to sell them fast enough.
intensely_human, Bananas are for eating my friend
xkforce, Dumb questions per fortnight
intensely_human, Congratulations! I’m surviving but without furniture lol.
I’ve got a little bit of disposable income, but just had to go out of network for a surgery because my insurance is weak.
I don’t really have financial worries either though. What’s weird is I make just under $50k now, but the most I ever made was $110k, and at that time I had financial stress. Now is the first time I’ve ever gotten off the paycheck-to-paycheck cycle.
But my financial success currently stops at furniture, so I know exactly what you’re saying. I’ve got a futon, a 5x7 rug, a table, a dining chair, and an armchair. The futon and the rug are the only ones I paid for; the rest was free from craigslist. I carried that damn furniture for miles. Well I had a vehicle for the armchair.
Next thing, after my savings recovers from the surgery, is a 7x9 rug to fill the other half of my main living space, so I can cut down on the creaking boards. Then padding for under the rugs. Then finally another dining chair so I can invite someone over for dinner.
A_Random_Idiot, Being able to walk into a store and drop 50 dollars on something on rare occasion without having to have a panic attack and spend the day before doing in depth financial analysis and math, I cant imagine how much healthier my life would be without that stress.
PutangInaMo, 100 fucking million a month. I want it all.
Thorny_Insight, My plumber salary has been more than enough for me. I hope I can maintain it as self-employed aswell.
Obi, I’m sure you’ll make way more once you go independent!
Furbag, I remember a time when someone making “six figures” was extremely wealthy. Now six figures just seems to be the baseline for even having a chance at tackling home ownership in suburban areas. 120k is probably ideal. I don’t likely need more than that and it should be enough to pay for a comfortable lifestyle.
Getting there is the tricky part.
EinfachUnersetzlich, 120k what? Bananas per hour?
Furbag, You are not as funny as you think you are.
EinfachUnersetzlich, I’m not trying to be funny. As a non-American am I supposed to assume that everyone is talking about US dollars? Why don’t people just specify units?
Fal, Yes you are. Whether you like it or not, that’s the default.
EinfachUnersetzlich, Says who?
Fal, Says reality. Says the fact that you think you’re trying to take a stand and having to tell people not to assume US default
intensely_human, OPEC
fruitycoder, It’s the world reserve currency, it’s a safe bet to assume it’s USD when people are talking money unless specified otherwise
Silentiea, No, you’re confused. K is the currency, they only need 120 of them.
Thrashy, I make $115k per year, my wife makes another $20k or so, we have one kid, a tiny house in a slightly sketch part of our Midwestern city that I bought a decade ago when it was almost cheap, and both our cars are paid off… and we’re treading water financially. I don’t know how anybody my age is affording big houses and new cars, unless it’s just by snowballing debt at an alarming pace. I’m already underfunding my 401k just to maintain some liquidity.
jpreston2005, the amount you need to make in order to afford the ever-fleeting american dream is about $140k right now. so I want 280k
aphonefriend, Genuinely curious, where does that number come from?
Coskii, (edited ) There was a questionable article written with that number not long ago. It’s completely bullshit though.
I’ll use my own experience as an example: I got approved for a mortgage of 125k (which is fairly low for my area, but there are still options) with the understanding that I’d be getting a house with a few issues that I can work on. My 30 year mortgage rate if I had managed to buy a house at that time would have been around 700 a month. If you double those numbers to 250k, 1400 a month and you earn 4x that amount your annual salary needs to be just under 70k.
Just for reference, there are a significant number of homes for sale for 250k or less, and I live in one of the top 10 most populated cities in the country.
Meltrax, $140k won’t buy you a house in almost any even remotely popular city or its suburbs.
BreadstickNinja, $140k per year is enough to afford a mortgage on a $500k house. You’d have to make crazy money to buy a house outright on a year’s salary, so nobody evaluates it that way.
Meltrax, $500k houses don’t exist in popular cities.
BreadstickNinja, That’s why I live way the hell out in the suburbs
fruitycoder, Is 500k a house to raise a family in or just a place to stay in?
Meltrax, In Boston, where I live? $500k is an unheated garage.
model_tar_gz, (edited ) San Diego checking in. $500k is a shack in someone’s backyard. Fuck I love it here but damn sometimes I really don’t.
ok ok I exaggerate a little. But everything is crazy expensive here. Nice weather and beaches though. Get to surf every week. Can’t complain.
Ramblingman, I’m sorry but this can’t be correct. I live within 30 minutes of two minor cities with plenty to do and me and my wife combined make around 100k. We live comfortably and have 50k in the bank in addition to retirement. We also have one kid. This is highly dependent on where you live. I am not saying the cost of housing,etc is not a problem but some of these numbers need to be put in context.
fruitycoder, When did you purchase your housing (rough year range) if you don’t mind?
That sounds awesome, but I live in low CoL area make more and feel like I’m just eaking by sometimes.
SuperSpruce, In the short term? $50k. Enough to get by and save for big purchases with enough left over to get a faster motorcycle.
In the long term? $100k. Enough to seriously save up for an actual house to live the American Dream.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S, $69420
No but seriously, about $70k would make me feel a lot better.
RubberElectrons, You’ll make that easily on the west coast of the US. We have a lot of aerospace and green energy companies, startups and behemoths in the mix.
But… Rent is quite high.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S, I applied for several West Coast positions and was not even interviewed for them. I applied for literally over 300 positions in my field all over the country and got no offers, so at least for the near future, I have to conclude I’m unhirable. Most companies I applied to do not offer relocation assistance, so even if I was hirable then they would pick a West Coast local instead.
RubberElectrons, Hmm… Sounds like a “you gotta know someone” kind of thing. Are there any networking or trade events that could help? When was the last time you looked for an event?
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S, I went to the college career fair twice last year as well as a co-op fair, and I’m going to the career fair again in February.
Doxatek, (edited ) (sorry for the story)
I think I’m okay. So far I guess. I’m in my first job after grad school and am almost there a year. I was hired at 58,000 but they did an adjustment because retention was so poor and now I make 69,000.
When I was younger I always thought 70k would be the number I would be totally fine with but adjusted for inflation 70k then was a lot more than now.
I had been making about 10k a year before now working fast food while in school. It was a weird feeling for me because I was so happy to pretty much meet my “goal”. I thought I would feel so rich after that jump. I have no lifestyle inflation because I live in the same place and drive the same shitty 500 dollar car I have for years.
But for some reason I feel just as poor as I always felt and it feels like nothing changed and it’s not going as far as I thought it would. I thought it would be life changing. And it is I suppose but not like I thought.
I feel bad complaining when it’s a privilege and many people make worse. Even I made less until recently. The entire system is just fucked and I feel bad for anyone who makes less than me because I still feel pressure and I don’t even really have anything.
Sorry if this makes me sound like a piece of shit I’m not trying to come off this way
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S, (sorry for the story)
All good; I’m usually on your side of this interaction.
But for some reason I feel just as poor as I always felt and it feels like nothing changed and it’s not going as far as I thought it would.
I mean I made 15k a year doing fast food before I went back to school, and even that was hugely important for me to get my mental health in order. I can’t go back now though; too much has changed, and I need to focus on grad school.
I feel bad complaining when it’s a privilege and many people make worse.
Don’t. It sucks that we have to work at all. You always have a right to vent and be an emotional human no matter how safe your situation actually is relative to others.
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