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PeepinGoodArgs, in What are some libraries, software, etc... that you'd like to see be built in open-source?

I have a temporary dream (as in we’ll see how long this lasts…) of building a database of legislation by state that can easily be queried.

I think a lot of people rely on the news to tell them how to interpret legislation when it’s actually really easy to figure it out for yourself if you know where to look. And with the proliferation of AI, it should be even easier to know what legislation is without some political analyst with an agenda.

Anyway, the idea is to have all this available on one website that uses open source code for the underlying database.

Thevenin,

it’s actually really easy to figure it out for yourself if you know where to look.

Yeah, but different people interpret legislation differently, and the gramatically literal interpretation isn’t always the “right” one. So it would be smart to also include links to any cases or precedents based on them.

noctisatrae,
jarfil,

That would be a great project indeed… just a heads up:

I was part of a group exploring to do something similar a couple decades ago. The main problem we found, was dealing with those first two points: by the time we figured out all the places a single “state” (this wasn’t in the US) stored all their legislation, they had already changed some of them. We realized that it would take either: collaboration from the government in terms of standardizing how they store things… or a constant game of chasing around the changes they made. At the time, we concluded it wasn’t practical to do it for free, and indeed some paid services have emerged offering something similar, but they’re not open.

My suggestion: if you managed to find a way for governments to make legislation accessible in a standardized way, that would be a HUGE success. Ideally, have it written into constitution, and/or use the constitution to beat government bodies into compliance.

Also a warning: the messy state of things, seems to be a sort of “job security” for some lawyer firms and companies offering the consolidation services, so taking that away may not be easy.

PeepinGoodArgs,

…that’s freakin’ cool!

noctisatrae,

This could really be an amazing project! I’ll see what I can do!

xilliah, (edited )

I’ve also wondered if it’s possible to somehow hook git into legislation. To track changes like how laws are amended and superseded and so on.

Law has a lot in common with software and is constantly being improved by a large number of people.

noctisatrae, (edited )

Added to the list ! That’s such a clever way of tracking law history !

MooMix, (edited ) in how's your week going, Beehaw
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I still have a job. I survived layoffs… for now. My workload has increased, but all is well, and I’m thankful for that.

janabuggs, in how's your week going, Beehaw

I’m waiting on a biopsy result. I might have breast cancer.

MooMix,
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Hoping for the best for you. Take care!

apotheotic, (edited ) in Favorite Charities?

It might not help you as it seems you might be in the US, but I regularly donate to MIND (a UK mental health charity), mermaids UK (A UK trans youth charity), Stonewall, and Greenpeace. I think they’re all awesome.

I also support the Awesome Socks Club, which isn’t really a charity donation but they’re donating 100% of profits to various charities, they said they’re trying to beat Paul Newman’s company’s charitable contributions which is a huge effort, it supports independent artists, and you get cool socks to top it off. (www.good.store)

Reil,

You’re right-- I am in the States, but your input is still welcome!

I don’t have an Awesome Socks subscription, but I do have a Sun Basin Soap one with good.store! I like Daydreamer, even though it sorta reminds me of allspice (and therefore chicken).

apotheotic,

Ah I was quite interested in the sun basin soap but it looked like they only deliver domestically!

jarfil,

I’ve grown disillusioned with Greenpeace, they seem to have lost their north a long time ago, and only hop onto the bandwagon of what’s cool at any given moment. Like, “no fossil, no nuclear, no global warming” are all cool and all… but a contradiction. Or the silliness they’re doing right now in Spain, of combing whole beaches to remove a few pounds of plastic pellets from each… only for more to come the next day… while 30-odd years ago we already used to wonder what were all the multicolored “sand” grains, and some kids used to pick up chunks of tar to chew like gum.

apotheotic,

That’s quite fair. Its just the most “effective” climate charity I know of, I’m open to suggestions!

jarfil,

I would suggest either Extinction Rebellion, which has an interesting open governance system with local chapters, and is “effective” in the sense of pissing people off enough to get itself on TV… or any local charity focused on a single achievable goal (sifting plastic pellets from a multi-ton dump at a rate of a few pounds per day, is a populist waste of resources; reforesting some area with native species, is direct and effective; and so on).

apotheotic,

Ta muchly!

araneae, in Favorite Charities?

Others are great, also shoutout to Equality Now. Another one that is not a charity is the ACLU.

sculd, in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?

When it comes to creative stuff (non-essential goods), I try to only support people with good conscience.

I have cut Netflix because of what the CEO has said. I have boycotted Ubisoft and Activision games because of the continued harassment issues in the company.

There are things I want to watch or play. But if this means supporting shitty people, I would instead prefer to use those resources to support the people I like. After all, its not like there are lack of entertainment in this world.

For essential goods (supermarket chains, goods made in less developed countries with labour issues, etc.), I am less strict because…well sometimes they are impossible to avoid.

RadioRat, in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?
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As much as I resent it being the way of things, money is power under capitalism. Where possible, I try not to cede mine to people looking to do nefarious things or disseminate shitty ideals. While I don’t have much personally and Kant was a pretentious douche canoe, I’m still idealistically partial to the universal maxim.

Yeah, no ethical consumption under capitalism or whatever but we can try not to prop up people who are brazenly making the world shittier. Thinking our actions don’t matter is how we get complacency.

its_me_xiphos, in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?

Zero. Influencer has a negative connotation to me. I associate it with shock media, cringe, and self-centered hubris. At best it’s a production, meant to create a persona and a market around that.

I don’t want to be influenced, I want to experience art, story, kindness, food, the world all more holistically than through a screen.

FluffyPotato, in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?

It doesn’t effect my decision on what to buy or watch. Like I can’t buy chocolate or just basic groceries without supporting slavery so if some person is a massive asshole it would just be hypocritical to boycott them and not the million worse things that you are basically required to monetarily support just to survive.

I’d probably be more selective if I was rich but I don’t have the time or money to fuss about that.

Fizz, in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?
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I don’t care if the creator is racist, sexist an asshole or whatever. I only care that their vision for the product aligns with what I want from the product.

mararonwe, in how's your week going, Beehaw

This week went from bad, I wasn’t feeling well couldn’t find any energy was getting back into depression, to worse, my favorite all time uncle passed away last night. I am not dealing well. He was one of those weird, quite a lot, offbeat people that kind of got me, no one else liked him much. Now I feel like when I talk about how much I love home it makes me even more of an outsider. Also he is so far away I can’t go to his friends and his circle and be with other people that love him too.

Faydaikin, (edited ) in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?
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It depends. People are allowed to have their own opinions as far as I’m concerned.

If their products are good, I see no reason why I shouldn’t use them. Even if I don’t agree with said opinion.

However, if they are actively making the world a shittier place for others, then I start to have a problem with them.

Like JKR not being pro-trans is just her opinion. And as far as I know, she hasn’t gone on a crusade against anyone yet.

But Blizzard encouraging the sexual harrasment of it’s female employees is a totally different beast. And I didnt feel right keeping supporting them.

But it’s a line everyone has to figure out for themselves.

ondoyant,
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Like JKR not being pro-trans is just her opinion. And as far as I know, she hasn’t gone on a crusade against anyone yet.

using a large public platform to disseminate the same kinds of anti-trans arguments currently being used by bigots to draft legislation putting trans people at risk is not just an opinion. like, it isn’t a crusade, but when there is a crusade going on and you’re saying the same thing the crusaders are saying, its not a good look.

Faydaikin,
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I’m not really up to date on JKR to be honest. It was mostly an example of someone who was asked her opinion, gave it and it pissed people off enough for it to become an issue.

There’s a reason we shouldn’t look to celebrities for answers or anything other than the entertainment they supply.

Lionir, in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?

That’s a really hard question for me. It’s mostly a feeling more than a science so it becomes a bit hard to lay it down rationally and I know that doing that will result in weird inconsistencies but if I had to define it, it’s probably these three things.

  1. The influence of the author or vibe

I find myself thinking that if I associate a particular piece of art as the vision of a single person rather than a collective work, I tend to be more critical of that art or product. Rationally speaking, I know Kagi is made by more than one person and I know the same to be true of Brave but the fact that I strongly associate both to, in my view, very concrete people whose ideology is very clearly shown in the product, it becomes very hard for me to dissociate the product from supporting that person. Of course, if the vibe of the product or art is off, I just don’t want to indulge with it - it’s essentially an instant turn off. Sometimes it’s just a little thing but it lives rent free in my mind.

  1. The timeframe

If the person that has an influence is dead, well, I don’t have a feeling of contribution to something bad and I might overlook that dislike for the author.

  1. The need

If I don’t need it and I don’t vibe with the author, well, I won’t buy it. There’s better things out there. On the other hand, if I have no option but to use that product, I might swallow my pride.

itmightbethew, in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?
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As many have said there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, and you can’t know everything about everyone, so no matter what you’re going to end up supporting something unethical at some point.

That being said, all I can do is act on the information I have, and when I learn about some situation like this, I don’t have an easy answer or decision flow chart. But I do ask myself two questions.

How much will my support enable more of the behaviour I find abhorrent? And how much will the knowledge ruin my appreciation of the thing?

I cannot read Ender’s Game even though I always meant to since I found out about Orson Scott Card’s politics about ten years back. And while there’s (somehow) way, way worse people out there the knowledge, especially the holocaust denial, just ruins any enjoyment I could get from the books or movies, regardless of any separate-art-from-artist arguments.

But I am a huge Lovecraft fan, and he was also just the worst. But the guy’s dead, it doesn’t matter if I buy his books or not. And even then despite his popularity across Geekdom he’s a relatively niche author. His views aren’t going to reach a lot of people.

I think this works out differently if the creator is someone current and powerful or influential. If we can blunt the impact of a popular creator spreading toxic views that prevents a lot more bad than than the same frome someone dead or niche. Even if that’s only lack of support, that’s still more.

I guess what I’m saying it is has less to do with the details of the bad views or actions, and more about much my support helps enable those. The less I contribute by watching or buying or clicking, the less I’m concerned about it. Unless it just personally bothers me.

I don’t if that’s the right answer but it’s the once I’ve got right now

MayonnaiseArch,
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Well let me just help you about Ender there - imagine an akschyaly clever kid, fedora wearing, huffing their own farts while being annoying on twitter and trying to suck their own dick all day. The image is a pimply kid almost reaching their dick, the cum blasts past their face and hits mein kampf on the spine, the kid goes into a crying diatribe about something.

I think that’s about it really, might have missed a part of the plot

Penguincoder, in How much does a creator's worldview influence whether you use their tech or consume their media?

Not at all. I’m a user of the product/service, not the creators friend or even acquaintance. If their product sucks, I’m more apt to speak against that. If the persons worldview sucks, that’s their problem; so long as it does not infect their tech or media. If/when it does, that’s a different aspect.

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