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Kolanaki, in Do You Need To Wash Rice Before Cooking? Here’s The Science
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Unless you’re using Minute Rice (which is already pre-washed before it goes in the box): Yes.

CubbyTustard, in It's getting to be soup season. What are your favorite soups?

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  • electrogamerman,

    Better served when?

    HeyThisIsntTheYMCA,
    @HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

    Before drinking

    PetDinosaurs,

    Ah yes. My dad’s famous egg nog.

    HeyThisIsntTheYMCA, in It's getting to be soup season. What are your favorite soups?
    @HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

    Queso

    I’m trying to find my recipe but serious eats has a good one for not having to use Velveeta. Use evaporated milk and cornstarch with your shredded cheese. That’s their recipe. Then I throw in some cumin and rotel and diced chiles. Maybe taco meat if it’s the main dish. Sometimes avocado.

    sevan, in It's getting to be soup season. What are your favorite soups?

    My wife just made a favorite of mine: gnocchi soup with spicy turkey sausage.

    MeanEYE, in Do You Need To Wash Rice Before Cooking? Here’s The Science
    @MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

    Naah, just use it as is. In fact, throw some extra dirt in there and spit in it for good measure. It gives it character.

    jcdenton, in Do You Need To Wash Rice Before Cooking? Here’s The Science
    @jcdenton@lemy.lol avatar

    Not reading because yes you should

    deeply_moving_queef, in Do You Need To Wash Rice Before Cooking? Here’s The Science

    tldr; no

    (Yes if you’re a clean freak)

    hi_its_me,

    Thanks deeply_moving_queef

    deeply_moving_queef,

    💨

    AA5B,

    Finally. That’s what I got out of the article as well, but it also confirmed my bias

    8bitguy,

    TL; DR,

    Only if you're concerned about removing dust, insects, little stones, bits of husk left from the rice hulling process, arsenic, and 20-40% of microplastics. The amount of those things is influenced by the region in which it's produced. Stickiness reduction from washing is nominal due to there being two different types of starch. The kind on the surface is different than the variety inside the grain, which is what affects the stickiness.

    Not part of the article:

    If you're interested in less sticky rice, try toasting it first. It's a game changer.
    https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/food-network-kitchen/toasted-rice-recipe-2104154

    I've never bothered rinsing, but probably will now because of microplastics and arsenic. I've never seen impurities like what are listed, but I only buy rice produced in California.

    wintermute_oregon,

    You don’t wash rice for cleanliness. You wash rice to remove excess starch.

    shadmere,

    Yeah, the study said it has no effect on the stickiness of the rice.

    Which is bizarre, because I’ve…seen it. Like repeatedly. And it’s not a subtle difference. When I am lazy and don’t wash my rice, it comes out MUCH gooier. It’s not terrible but it’s significantly different than when I wash it well.

    Is this going to make me buy a second rice cooker to compare side by side? Ugh.

    wintermute_oregon,

    I agree. Also depends on the rice. Basmati doesn’t seem to stick like most white rices.

    Semi-Hemi-Demigod,
    @Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social avatar

    I've seen it, too. When I want fluffy individual grains, I rinse the rice first. If I want sticky rice, I don't rinse it. And it works for all different kinds of rice.

    There's going to be powdered starch on the outside of the grains of rice. If you rinsed it and then added something like corn starch to the water you'd end up with sticky rice.

    tburkhol,

    The popular press report says that washing doesn’t make a difference. The actual, paywalled study says they did find a highly significant interaction between washing and type of rice, which is a level of statistical sophistication that a food writer might not grasp. In fact, even the scientific authors seem not to have commented much on the interaction.

    In their data, it looks like washing 0-amylose glutinous rice makes it more sticky, while washing medium-grain 21% amylose rice even just 3 times makes it less sticky, and that 13% amylose Jasmine rice is just kind of all over the place or not systematically influenced by washing. They didn’t do a big table of adjusted post hocs, so it’s difficult to tell which specific groups are different from which others.

    They also cooked the rices differently, using 1:1.3 rice:water for the glutinous and 1:1.6 for the medium and Jasmine, which obviously might confound their observations.

    Purple_drink,

    The article says washing doesn’t have an effect on the starch content (at least any starch that contributes to stickiness)

    wintermute_oregon,

    I’m aware. I read the article.

    mnoram,

    But if you read the article you’d have seen that prewashing to remove starch makes no difference. That’s literally the point of this article.

    “Culinary experts claim pre-washing rice reduces the amount of starch coming from the rice grains. … Contrary to what chefs will tell you, this study showed the washing process had no effect on the stickiness (or hardness) of the rice.”

    And traditionally it was washed for cleanliness. The new wash to remove starch is a modern concept some people clearly started to say to sound smart with no evidence or science and it took off. Read the article

    wintermute_oregon,

    I read the article. Why I mentioned it wasn’t for cleanliness.

    Potatos_are_not_friends,

    You don’t wash rice for cleanliness. You wash rice to remove excess starch.

    But then you answered it’s to remove starch?

    wintermute_oregon,

    You do remove starch my washing it. The article says it doesn’t create less sticky rice.

    mrpants,

    Well whatever it does there is a significant and noticeable difference between washed and unwashed rice.

    This article is either wrong in what it’s measuring or has measured it incorrectly.

    Potatos_are_not_friends,

    You just say whatever you want to move the goalpost, instead of just admitting you’re wrong, huh?

    morbidcactus,

    Prefacing this with this is my anecdotal experience, while the results are the same I find it much easier to clean up if I prewash the rice first. I don’t bother presoaking most of the time although some recipes call for it. I pretty much only have basmati and jasmine rice on hand so maybe it also depends on the variety?

    themeatbridge,

    This was the question in the article. They did a test of unwashed, washed 3 times, and washed 10 times, then compared the rice. The scientists found no difference between the samples. They further speculate that the stickyness level of the rice has to do with the starches that leech from inside the rice.

    The article goes on to talk about how, depending on how (and where) the rice is processed, you may want to rinse rice to remove bits of husk, dust, pebbles, and possibly arsenic or microplastics.

    Now, having said all of that, take the results of the study with a grain of salt. Washing 3 times isn’t going to do much of anything, and 10 times doesn’t actually tell us that they washed the rice properly. As soon as the starch is wet, it’s sticky. You really have to rinse and agitate the rice, and wash until the water runs clear. Maybe that also leeches some of the more available starch from inside the rice, but the difference is noticeable to anyone who cooks rice on a regular basis. So I’m not going to question the suggested mechanism of action, but I know how to make rice that is and isn’t sticky.

    bread_is_life,

    Im glad they mentioned the debris. My mom always told me they (family when they were in Vietnam) used to wash rice because of the pebbles, dust and bugs that may get into it. The water makes the bugs move which made it easier to pick out. She does it now because of the dust or whatever that may be on it. Never heard of the starch thing until watching youtube videos.

    Still going to wash my rice though. Its better this way.

    scytale,

    This is the reason I wash rice. Empty hulls, dirt, and bugs naturally float so it’s easier to take them out. We use brown or red rice so it’s not as “clean” as polished white rice. Also, even if the study says washing doesn’t do anything, the fact that the water turns a different color when rinsing shows that something gets removed when washing.

    0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6,
    @0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6@kbin.social avatar

    Yeah I wash rice like I wash rice just like I wash all my other fruits and vegetables... To get dirt and other crap off

    PlantJam,

    Yeah, this really sounds like some scientists that don’t know how to wash rice.

    TheBiscuitLout, in Why You Should Temper Steaks | TESTED

    I really like his videos, a scientific approach to cooking has definitely made me make better food!

    canthidium,
    @canthidium@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, Alton Brown taught me so much about cooking. I find that I learn so much more getting into the science of things. J. Kenji Lopez-Alt is one of my favorites, especially when he was doing Food Lab. But he still explains a lot about why ingredients react the way they do and what makes good combinations.

    NotSpez,

    Yeah, this guy is the real deal. I don’t get all the upvotes, I guess many lemmings don’t really like the video format.

    zeppo, in Home cooked corn tortillas.
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t really have the capacity to make my own, but there is a company in Portland who makes masa from heirloom corn (Three Sisters I think?) and it’s definitely more flavorful than Maseca.

    fujiwood,

    Thank you for pointing me in the right direction! I just found their website and it seems they also sell a diy kit for making your own masa. They don’t ship fresh tortillas or masa since they are perishable. I don’t blame them. If the whole point is to make a better tortillas you should probably make everything the same day.

    zeppo,
    @zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

    Yeah, their masa comes wet like dough, so it’s sold in the refrigerated section. The kit sounds cool! I’ve met them at a farmer’s market and they seemed like good people.

    CryptidBestiary, in Do You Need To Wash Rice Before Cooking? Here’s The Science

    I’ve eaten rice all my life and was taught to wash rice before cooking it. I’ve seen and eaten the starchiness that happens when not washing it and the difference is very noticeable. Rice was very gooey and starchy when not washed, versus a nice firm and chewy rice you would get from a restaurant when you do wash. Also washing it can clean out any bugs or dirt. It just made sense imo

    h3mlocke, in Do You Need To Wash Rice Before Cooking? Here’s The Science

    我不吃饭!

    mrspaz, in It's getting to be soup season. What are your favorite soups?

    A good hearty borscht (the red variety). Serve with a sprinkle of fresh dill on top and a spoonful of sour cream dropped in.

    donuts, in Do You Need To Wash Rice Before Cooking? Here’s The Science
    @donuts@kbin.social avatar

    This can't be right. They must have something off with their method.

    You can even see murky, starchy white water drain out of the bowl the first couple of times you rinse and stir the uncooked rice. If that's not starch then what is it? The water will come out visibly cleaner with each round of rinsing and stirring.

    Sure it could be placebo but I definitely feel that I can tell the difference between unwashed and washed rice.

    tburkhol,

    Argument goes that the easily removed starch is all very short chain polymers, where the stickyness is more due to medium chain and highly branched molecules. I would honestly not be surprised if some of the cloudy water was also talc or other inorganic anti-clumping agents.

    The type of rice you’re cooking is also very important.

    JakoJakoJako13, in It's getting to be soup season. What are your favorite soups?
    @JakoJakoJako13@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s been Souptober at my house for the weekends this month. Started with a beef barley stew. Then chicken noodle. Then a chilli. Next I’m trying to make a crab soup or french onion soup. Gonna finish it off with chicken and dumplings. I just need a tomato based soup to squeeze in there during the week.

    MysticKetchup, in It's getting to be soup season. What are your favorite soups?

    Tomato and dumpling

    Dakbokkeumtang (Korean Chicken stew)

    And anything I can make with leftover ham or prime rib bones from holiday dinners

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