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charonn0, in Temporal Prime Directive: Get Out of Jail Free?
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Chakotay once used the TPD as an excuse to not answer a question from Janeway.

And she just accepted it.

charonn0, in Repetitive Epics
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The closest I can think of–at least as far as multi-generation epics–would be Wilbur Smith novels.

ElderWendigo, in Repetitive Epics

I feel like repetitive epic is like a Cardassian version of the dubious literary idea of The Hero’s Journey, adapted for the Cardassian heroic ideal of selfless sacrifice to the state. I think Garak would appreciate the “Rememberence of Earth’s Past” series (Three Body Problem) for the way that individual heroics take a backseat to the glory and survival of the state.

teft, (edited ) in Repetitive Epics
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The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August. It tells the story of a man who lives his life over and over again. Very interesting story and while not exactly like Garak’s repetitive epic its definitely in the same vein.

gregorum, (edited ) in Repetitive Epics

Unfortunately, not enough detail was given regarding the story or plot, so no comparison can really be made.

Seraph, in Where Are All The Bicycles??
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Wheeled transit when flight or hovering is so easy is just plain clumsy.

There's not a lot of cars either, outside of episodes set in the past.

porthos,

I mean once you have flight/hovering vehicles than practically the only transportation that doesn’t make obsolete is a bicycle for transporting someone a mile or two daily from their spaceship to a residence or wherever.

How is using a bicycle clumsy? I mean I get if people don’t like bicycles but honestly a bicycle is just fun to cruise around on, they are the opposite of clumsy.

Seraph,
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It needs relatively flat terrain. Even mountain bikes need trails. Off the trail they're not fun to ride, though a wash will do in a pinch.

porthos,

Bicycles don’t necessarily need flat terrain, especially with electric bikes that have futuristic insanely efficient batteries.

Yes bicycles do best on trails but anywhere that has humanoids is going to have trails. Anywhere that has any kind of large animal is going to probably have some degree of path system as well. I don’t think it’s that big of an issue compared to any other kind of ground vehicle.

Damage,

Cycling on rough trails can be exhausting, and requires regular training, riding completely off road is more difficult, if even possible.

The starfleet academy grounds should be littered with bycicles though.

chaogomu,

You sound like someone who has never ridden a bike through broken terrain.

I'll argue that the "flat" used by the comment above might be better taken on a more granular level. You can go up and down mountains just fine so long as there are no logs, large rocks, pits, or gullies that are in the way.

I was doing some D&D world building a while back and wanted to really dive into transportation of people/goods and found the same problem. Tenser’s Floating Disk is a very low level wizard spell that basically does away with all but the heaviest ships and carts.

It's the same for the trek universe. They have personal transportation methods that mean there's literally zero need for a bicycle for anything other than recreation.

Hell, Lower Decks opens with Mariner pushing around a hover cart full of stuff. It's literally the cold open of the entire series.

If you can have a hover cart like that, then why bother with a bike? Need to move stuff to a remote area? Get the hover cart, you don't need to cut a trail, just go over the obstacles. And that's if the transporter doesn't work if the first place to beam the people and equipment to a nearby area.

porthos,

I was doing some D&D world building a while back and wanted to really dive into transportation of people/goods and found the same problem. Tenser’s Floating Disk is a very low level wizard spell that basically does away with all but the heaviest ships and carts. It’s the same for the trek universe. They have personal transportation methods that mean there’s literally zero need for a bicycle for anything other than recreation.

I mean, its all just “magic” at a certain point, they could do everything with a transporter… but they dont so presumably there are reasons not to (even though the real reason is it is a tv show). I have never seen hovercarts used prominently in the live action shows, especially not as a vehicle.

TrickDacy,
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Then =/= than

porthos,

I am a dog tho

TrickDacy,
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THAN go AEt somA kibblA THAN go for a walk. Its bAttAr THEN writing shit on the IntArnAt ENYwey

Corgana,
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I agree, in my utopian future it’s possible to leisurely bike everywhere. Why hurry anywhere in a post-scarcity society when you can cruise around and take in the scenery?

porthos,

It would be a matter of public health policy that people had some kind of access to a short, physical commute to whatever place they worked/spent their day at, right? That is at least how I rationalize why they just don’t teleport people everywhere. They COULD technically teleport everywhere all the time… but the mental and physical health consequences to not getting some kind of mild daily exercise like bicycling are too intense (also having some kind of short, stress free commute helps one get into the mindset of work anyways).

Sanctus, in Where Are All The Bicycles??
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Its honestly because its not interesting to watch people beam down and bike all the time. Usually shit happens almost immediately after the beam anyway. But yeah where are my turbo maglift bikes.

porthos,

They could just take bmx bikes and beam down right into the action though, maybe even in the middle of a sweet handlebar spin. Are you going to tell me you don’t want to see bmx star trek action?

Sanctus,
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I do, but that sounds like some Lower Decks stuff lol

Corgana,
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I used to like Star Trek until this comment. I realize now that it’s all garbage and we have been robbed of happiness.

wuphysics87, in Vulcan Sex Workers

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Zorque, in Vulcan Sex Workers

They have meditations they can do with a group of fellow Vulcan's to help suppress the urge in the case of not being able to procreate with their mate. It comes up in Voyager.

magnetosphere, in Vulcan Sex Workers
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That does seem like the simplest, most reliable, most effective solution. We’ve seen things like meditation and medical treatments fail.

Easyreever, in Vulcan Sex Workers

That is the most logical explanation Captain.

shnizmuffin, in Raktajino... has liquor in it?
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An IRL reason: it was a cocktail made with coffee liquor at Star Trek: The Experience in Las Vegas.

OneCardboardBox,

Ah, the Quark approach:

  • Take a drink that costs forty slips of latinum to make
  • Pour it into a novelty glass
  • Add a dash of liquor
  • Charge two strips of latinum for it
princessnorah,
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What is the Slip to Strip conversion? Is it just 100:1?

OneCardboardBox, (edited )

According to memory alpha wiki:

100 slips = 1 strip

20 strips = 1 bar

There are also bricks, but no known conversation rate exists for that amount.

shnizmuffin,
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Hold up: I lied. (I realized I was commenting on Daystrom and went to go get a source.)

I was thinking of…

DEANNA TROI’S CHOCOLATE OBSESSION

If there’s one thing that Counselor Troi knows, it’s chocolate. And this is one of her favorite drinks in the galaxy. An empathic concoction of raspberry liqueur, Kahlua, Bailey’s, and chocolate syrup.

Here’s the recipe for Raktajino:

RAKTAJINO

Klingon coffee. A frozen blend of mocha and cappuccino. An honorable drink to prepare any warrior for combat. Qapla!

n3m37h,

Still no prune juice

bradboimler,
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Oh, man, it would've been PERFECT if they sold that. I regret not going when I had the chance.

Sharpiemarker,

Coffee+Prune juice = Emergency teleport to the nearest restroom/holodeck.

Jaccident,

They just beam the poops out!

princessnorah,
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See that’s what I said!

Jaccident,

It’s a popular theory that I first encountered on The Greatest Generation, though I think it must have come up organically many times since the 1960s!

qantravon, in Raktajino... has liquor in it?

That’s very strange, I’ve looked at a few recipes and never seen alcohol as an ingredient. It usually is just coffee with some spices, usually including cinnamon.

ThunderclapSasquatch,

I just assumed it took Mezoamerican influences back and added peppers, Klingons like food that fights back

askryan, in Raktajino... has liquor in it?

I’ve seen people suggest adding alcohol, but I think the idea is to simulate that Klingon coffee would have a sharpness or bite to it, rather than assuming that raktajino on the show would actually have alcohol. I played around with some recipes for fun and I actually mixed a few together and found something pretty delicious. I mix Turkish coffee, a small amount of whipped milk, cayenne pepper, cinnamon, and a little honey.

lemmyvore, in Where Are All The Bicycles??

I’m always reminded of Star Trek when I’m watching… Bond movies. The smorgasbord of over-the-top tech he’s using and the casual manner in which he keeps pulling them out at the right moment feels like should be right at home in the Federation.

porthos,

hahaha yup good comparison

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