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Sordid, (edited ) in ... and you feel nothing.
@Sordid@beehaw.org avatar

Hot take: It’s no stupider than any other pickup truck, and at least it stands out. Don’t get me wrong, it’s fugly as hell, but that’s still better than being indistinguishable from every other vehicle in its class.

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

I agree, won’t stop me from making fun of it though!

squaresinger,

Why would you want your car to stand out?

Sordid,
@Sordid@beehaw.org avatar

Because that’s the purpose of a posermobile, which the vast majority of pickup trucks are.

Shake747,

Social status. The main reason for wanting to stand out (other than your own ego) is because having a higher social status will offer the individual more opportunities in these social games we play.

Perception matters more than the truth for most

BedSharkPal,

Plus at least it’s not spewing exhaust everywhere.

Conyak,

I would have to disagree. A new Tacoma is about $60,000 less stupid than this.

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

As a pick-up it however absolutely fails compared to everything else in its class.

biddy,

Why does it fail any more than all the other dumb American pickup trucks that also fail at being pickup trucks?

Deceptichum,
@Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

Can’t carry a load as well.

maegul, in same bed length
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Probably same engine capacity too.

Zipitydew,

Not even close.

I’m 99% certain that’s a 2nd Gen Honda Acty. Which means it has at best a .7 liter engine making 45hp.

The wannabe monster truck at minimum would have a 4.3 V6 making almost 300hp. But the particular spec in the picture typically has the 5.3 V8 at around 355 HP.

Kei trucks are cool. But they’re like a big golf cart with a flatbed.

maegul,
@maegul@lemmy.ml avatar

Fair!

Still, I’m under the impression that some of this “trucks” can have surprisingly small engines given their size.

billy_bollocks, (edited )

I have a Daihatsu Hijet on my property. Pretty much use it like a quad. Spray paint camo job, 4x4, dump bed, w/ rear locker. Pretty awesome at pulling shit, getting thru muddy spots, etc.

I’ll say this - that little Hijet is a much, much more capable little rig than my 2014 Taco, let alone the stupid bro-dozer in the picture. I’ll probably bring it with me elk hunting next year so I can load up the bed with elk quarters and crawl out of the bush

Zipitydew,

I can see how it would be good in mud. I’d wager it weighs close to a ton less than your Taco.

billy_bollocks,

You nailed it. The light weight allows it to float a bit more in the rough stuff.

Don’t get me wrong, love the Taco but the Hijet is a rockstar all its own.

paulsmith,

I own one of these small trucks, a Mitsubishi Minicab. It has a 660cc engine. Nowhere close to the same engine capacity.

marx2k, (edited )

I had a Yamaha fjr1300 motorcycle. The engine in it was almost twice that truck engine

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Is that a joke?

ImFresh3x,

No this is the social media website called lemmy. If it’s not about games, Linux, or coding you’re gonna get lots of disinformation.

Sotuanduso, in insane infrastructure needed

Gotta love how whenever someone posts something about Chick Fil A, there are several comments calling them bigots.

en.wikipedia.org/…/Chick-fil-A_and_LGBT_people

They stopped donating to anti-LGBT organizations 11 years ago (except for FCA and the Salvation Army, organizations that are considered anti-LGBT due to stances, not actions. They stopped donating to those in 2020 anyways.)

Facebones, in The world's 280 million electric bikes and mopeds are cutting demand for oil far more than electric cars

And the fact that car prices keep climbing because capitalism demands infinite growth or death.

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

In the US they keep getting bigger and bigger to. I was less scared of cars while riding my bike decades ago than I am now and we had less bike infrastructure then.

Facebones,

90% of our bike infrastructure now… Isn’t.

I’m not counting 1.5 feet on the edge of travel lanes where people are going 50 mph as bike infrastructure 🤷

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Well yeah. If it was separate paths from traffic then the size of the vehicles wouldn’t really be as big of a problem. It’s just how we have to “share” with people who have no ability so share.

Froyn, in Hi-viz

If they didn't want to get run down by my car, why were they riding on the sidewalk?

buh, in Electric cars: The equivalent of switching from binge drinking whiskey to binge drinking wine.
@buh@hexbear.net avatar

some of these problems are actually worse with electric cars, namely tire and brake dust, since EVs are heavier than similar size/performance ICE cars

Olgratin_Magmatoe,

On the other hand, EVs typically have regenerative breaking, reducing the wear on brake pads.

Still shit, but partially canceled out.

Nemo, in Go ahead.

Hey man, it’s fuck cars, not fuck bikes.

Paddzr,

Either way, i hope no one is foolish enough to cycle on a 4 way motorway…

Kase,

Takes me back to the time I was a kid and got lost riding my bike in my suburb. I ended up on the other side of the town, and to get home my stupid ass rode on the shoulder of the major highway, no helmet, going the wrong direction.

Made it home unharmed by sheer luck lmao.

Player2,

Painted bicycle gutters are car infrastructure. Bicycle infrastructure would be to remove a car lane and have a concrete barrier (or remove the road entirely)

TheOakTree,

I mean, it’s an example of cars fucking over bikes. Relevant enough imo

veganpizza69, in Britain's addiction to cars is built on a financial house of cards
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

PCPs replaced an approach called hire purchase (HP), where consumers opting for a car loan would make regular monthly payments until the loan was fully repaid, usually after three or four years. At the end, they would own the car outright. Under PCPs, consumers only pay back around half of the value of the vehicle. The rest of the value is reserved for a “balloon payment” at the end of the contract. The vast majority of consumers don’t make the balloon payment because they can’t afford it or don’t want to incur the expense. Instead, the vast majority swap their vehicle for a new one, and a new PCP deal.

I didn’t know that they have such a complex car debt bubble.

Squeak,

It means a lot are driving cars they can’t really afford.

Say you buy a car for £40k, finance it on PCP and you effectively make payments against a £20k loan. At the end of the agreement, you can buy the car for the remaining £20k, or hand the car back. Often the car will be worth £20k-£25k. Most dealerships will say ‘hey you can just take this new car’ and they get a £25k car for £20k. Dealerships make more sales of new cars and make more on the 2nd hand cars. Meanwhile those paying don’t actually own anything at the end and have continuous payments.

The only saving grace is if the car is worth less than the outstanding amount. If the car is worth £16k and you have £20k outstanding, you can just hand the car back and walk away. You aren’t obliged to buy the car or take out a new loan.

You can also pay off the finance yourself for the £20k, then sell that car on to get the £25k. But no one does because it’s not convenient like just taking a brand new shiny car.

veganpizza69,
@veganpizza69@lemmy.world avatar

that’s a subscription…

Squeak,

Basically, yes. You can get a lease for cheaper, but have no option to buy. PCP you have the option to buy, but few people actually take it.

thejevans, in Uber paid 58 Australians $1350 to have One Less Car
@thejevans@lemmy.ml avatar

Transitioning from owning and using you own car to using a taxi service with an app solves parking issues and pretty much nothing else. Fuck Uber.

brewery,

That is true but the article clearly says they are looking at overall travel habits including walking, cycling and public transport.

I’m not a fan of uber or sick plaster solutions instead of radical long term redesign/change, but found the experiment and article very useful.

LeylaLove,

This is facts. Getting rid of cars without any functinal alternative is literally just fucking over poor people. I don’t give two fucks how much ride-sharing apps could be better than people owning cars, ubering to and from work and only on that loop is $300-500+ a week depending on where you live. I’d actually imagine Australian prices are probably worse.

LocustOfControl,

I don’t think you read the article. The data shows that walking and cycling went up massively, as well as increasing public transport use. This is good, and the article as a whole politely makes points compatible with this comm.

LeylaLove,

Uber only paid 58 people, it’s cool but it’s not enough to create any of the changes you’re mentioning. The article can be polite, but I can still respond to their shitty point nts however I want

LocustOfControl,

It’s a study. People are normally paid to participate in studies because otherwise no-one would bother doing them.

It’s not meant to change the city overnight, it’s a study to test how people’s behaviours change if they reduce the number of cars they own, which is what we want (ideally to zero, of course).

In summary, IT’S A STUDY.

ShimmeringKoi, in /c/fuck_weapons
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

…was pretty fucking scary. So was not being able to shoot after getting pepper spray in my eyes

Now is a good time to learn from the misfortune of others: if you’re armed at a protest, then you’ve taken on the responsibility of protection, either just for yourself or for others as well. It is therefore your duty not to be disabled by something as common as pepper spray. Get some goggles and don’t go up front without em.

Xavienth,

It’s Australia. They mean shoot pictures

ShimmeringKoi,
@ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net avatar

Lol, never let it be said we’re not products of our environment

Nacktmull,

Found the US American, lol

sharedburdens,

To be fair when I see pickup trucks being used to threaten protesters I think America too

SatanicNotMessianic,

Not the OP, but since the post is a picture I’m going to make a guess that the meant they couldn’t shoot pictures, not shoot a firearm. Given the fact they’re calling the vehicle a ute and it has non-US plates, I think I’d go further and say that it’s extremely unlikely that the person is armed with a firearm.

cipher,

That is a tram from Melbourne, Australia so definitely meant photography

SexMachineStalin,
@SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net avatar

Also there’s a train-shining

UraniumBlazer, in ... and you feel nothing.

Ughh it just looks like a fridge with wheels

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Most fridges do have wheels, especially the large ones.

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Fridges also don’t crush people all that often.

Masamune,

You mean your fridge doesn’t have auto pilot??

takeda,

Doesn’t that put them on par with Tesla’s?

WarmSoda,

Did you know?
According to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), there are around 20-30 fatal accidents related to refrigerators in the United States each year.

The majority of these accidents involve children under the age of 5 who become trapped inside the refrigerator or freezer.

Tip-over incidents are one of the leading causes of refrigerator-related fatalities, accounting for about 70% of the cases. (Source).

Now you know!

NoIWontPickaName,

But if we don’t have fridges, all we will have is warm soda and no one likes that.

MxM111,
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Except @WarmSoda of course.

takeda,

Yeah, but how do you feel that 20-30 people must die per year so you have a cool soda?

NoIWontPickaName,

Scope the user name friend

takeda,

So you want to murder him too? How can you sleep at night?

NoIWontPickaName,

Damned if I didn’t woosh myself.😞

harry_balzac,

I’m okay with it, to be honest. If you piss off your fridge so much that it kills you, you probably had it coming.

taladar,

It is not as if the warm soda cupboard can’t tip over on top of you too.

NoIWontPickaName,

@warmsoda Are you trying to kill us with your cupboard?

WarmSoda,

And I would have gotten away with it if it wasn’t for you damned lemmings!

Snapz,

I have wheels, Greg… Can you milk me?

Dr_Fetus_Jackson,

“I HAVE A MANGINA! I’M OLD GREEEEGGG!!!”

P1r4nha, in How Commute Culture Made American Cities Lifeless -- Yet There's Hope

“Culture” is probably an overstatement. Isn’t it just horrifying zoning laws that lead to sprawl and people didn’t have a choice as there is a lack of public transportation?

oo1,

It sounds like you're saying they're livng in an effective dictatorship rather than a democracy.
They should be able to choose by the way they vote.

I dont reallly know much about how planning and public services works in the USA.

Im my country we have fluctuating quality of local and national public transport investment and maintenace, and one of the sources of variation is who they're voting in to power.

When they keep voting in individualistic self-serving leaders the public infrastructure gets shat on sometimes duismantled and snaked off outside of public control. The rare time they vote for politicians who support public infrastructure and the general public, then it improves,
however briefly.

So my country is probably average on public transport - by the sounds of things, it's generally better than most of the USA - I'd rather it be better. but I tend to accept the choices made by the electorate, saddening though it may be, this is what people want.

If i'm really that bothered about it then i have to stand for election myself.

I guess it might all come down to how free and fair the elections are and how easy it is to enter and get your manifesto heard by a fair number of people.

P1r4nha,

A lack of options isn’t really the same as a dictatorship. The day to day choices are sometimes hard to abstract into an intelligent vote every 2 or 4 years. The US suffers from a lack of trust in public institutions, so they aren’t given enough funding or the right leadership to take a step back, take a good look and make tough choices that goes against reactionary NIMBYs.

The sprawl may very well be part of the culture. I just don’t like to call everything a culture, including commuting. Commuting just seems a necessity and the choice of how and how far you commute is a function of infrastructure and land value. Sounds almost too boring to organize around, but it would be important to find a solution that works for everyone, instead of just single individuals.

Dmian,
@Dmian@lemmy.world avatar

For all I’ve read, the lack of public transportation in US cities (or the badly managed ones) is by design, influenced on politicians by the car industry lobby.

I guess it’s the same for zoning laws? I’ve no idea, and I’m probably not exactly true, as I’m stating a huge generalization. The US is so big and diverse that there may be places with good public infrastructure.

But in a broader sense, it seems that the car lobby played a big role in how cities were designed and run.

FireRetardant,

In Canada the resistance to change is fueled by “this is how we’ve always done it” which is false as Canada was founded before the car was made. There is also a conflict of interest to reduce dependance on roads as we have a decent auto manufacturing sector and many people rely on jobs related to roads and cars. With zoning there is hesitancy to change because many of our politicians are land lords using single family homes as rentable apartments and they know that their property values will drop if we start building real multi unit residences and affordable housing.

Our cities have been caught in this style of development for decades and to try to change it really goes against the current political grain. It takes a brave and determined politician to try for change and they will meet resistance from their colleagues and parts of their voter base the entire way.

oo1,

Yes, I think to work well the Land zoning and transport planning need to be hand in hand.
(and ideally serve people rather than car companies).

A local bus service is more efficient the denser the population it serves.

Rural densities will struggle to support/ warrant frequent bus services.

Really dense areas will more easily support more frequent bus services / netwoks and even trains / grade separated or exclusive land use for public transport.

It's no suprise that super dense places like Japan, Singapore, and desely populated European , Chinese regions have more public transport.

Add New York City to that list for that matter. Presumably NYC benefited from achieving it's density before cars became too powerful politically..

ajsadauskas, (edited )
@ajsadauskas@aus.social avatar

@oo1 @azimir @P1r4nha @Dmian

Urban planning and public transport should absolutely go hand-in-hand.

But on to your other point.

The key factor for transport use isn't just population or density. It's also the proportion of the population that uses public transport. And places that have more frequent public transport will have a higher proportion of the population using it than places with low quality public transport.

It's a point the late Paul Mees made in his book "A very public solution": https://www.mup.com.au/books/a-very-public-solution-paperback-softback (it's highly recommended reading if you have the chance.)

Imagine a city with just 100,000 people. But the local bus service is exceptional, and half the population uses it. That's a base of 50,000 people.

Imagine a city of 500,000 people. The public transport network there is average, so just 10% of the population uses it. That's 50,000 people.

Now imagine a metropolitan area of 5,000,000 people. The public transport network there is poor and infrequent. Only 1% of the population uses it. That's 50,000 people.

Three cities, same absolute number of public transport users, different modal share.

If you run frequent services, every 10 minutes or better, and services connect so that it's a two- or three-seat journey to everywhere in your city, you will have a much higher ridership than if it's an hourly bus service. That's with the same population and density.

Frequent bus services (once every 10 minutes or more) can also act as a feeder into a higher rail, light rail, tram, or metro services. In suburban, rural, and seni-rural areas, that extends the reach of your rail network.

Yes, higher density around railway stations is the best option. But where there is a lot of low-density suburban sprawl, frequent feeder buses are a good option.

timbuck2themoon,

Somehow there’s always a “death spiral” for public transit, especially now as people commute less. But somehow… There never is for roads. We never seem to have enough roads. Funny that.

Dmian,
@Dmian@lemmy.world avatar

“I swear, it’s just one more road. One more and that’s it. Promise!” XDDDD

P1r4nha,

The car lobby thing is true for LA, but I’m not sure you can apply this to every city. What is evident, is that cities that existed before cars were invented or introduced are still more pedestrian friendly (see east coast cities or European ones for example) and the ones founded after are more grid like and car friendly.

Public transportation is only worth it if there is a high enough density of people (yeah, this sub may not like to hear it), so if you have huge sprawling suburbs it’s not obvious where to even put your bus/train stations. Usually it’s great to connect centers of some sort.

So yeah, if there had been more incentive to connect centers and dense clusters of population with each other, they may have planned according to that.

biddy,

That’s certainly one cause, but culture is as well. The American dream of a quarter acre in the quiet leafy suburbs, easy commute to work by car on the freeway, has been a pervasive part of culture for a long time. It’s only recently that we’ve started appreciating the unsustainable reality of that idea.

rynzcycle,

I'm coming to the belief that sometime this is an overblown excuse. I'm sure it's not true everywhere, but I just visited a friend in a medium sized (well under 100k people) Florida city, and spent a day going around by bus and foot, and it was great. Buses were reliable, air-conditioned, cheap, and traveled all the main routes, running about 18h a day, but they were barely used. Still loads of 6 lane roads, paved everything, massive parking lots, and more SUVs than I could count.

Even if you have a car for some trips, people in this city could easily reduce their usage, but they've become far too reliant on car culture. A trip to the store, 15 min walk, hop in the car. A trip downtown, 10min walk and 30min bus ride, nope... Car.

If we want more public transport, we need to encourage people use what exists when they can.

FireRetardant, (edited )

Transit needs to be competitive with cars to really see a difference. In your own example a bus somehow takes 20 minutes longer to get downtown than walking there would, which is completely ridiculous but possible with how american transit is managed.

The transit needs to be nearly as fast and convenient as cars are. The city could take some of those 6 lane roads, dedicate a bus lane, and reduce the travel time of the bus by reducing time spent in traffic and prioritizing signals at intersections for the bus.

As for zoning, it is to blame because zoning prevents density and denisty helps support transit by increasing ridership in denser areas. If every building is limited to 1 or 2 stories and has a massive parking lot, it takes more space and everything gets farther away, increasing travel times for all transportation. This also increases the costs of road maintaince, sewer and water pipes, elecitricity delivery and is just pretty much one of the most ineffecient ways for a city to use space and resources.

DarthBueller,

All I know is that PalmTran in south east Florida became wildly unpredictable during the Great Recession due to suicide by train. Many many times it was shut down do to people offing themselves on the tracks.

P1r4nha,

Then ride the train during bull markets only.

InputZero,

I read a study long time ago, I can’t find it, it’s old, and I have not kept up with new publications so take all this with a huge grain of salt. The study found that not only does a public transit system need to be available and dependable, it needs a certain amount of people too. Once a critical number of commuters used public transit it passed a tipping point where even more people began to use it. The study concluded that people seeing people take public transit will increase the likelihood that they will choose public transit next time compared to people who saw deserted public transit. It’s a chicken and egg problem on top of everything else. Keep in mind I am not an expert and I am not current with the topic.

BestBouclettes, in What modes of transport do you really like?

Anything on rails is super cool, subway, funicular, trains, trams.

biddy, in Electric cars: The equivalent of switching from binge drinking whiskey to binge drinking wine.

Disagree on noise. Electric cars are quieter when going slowly and the main noise is engine, but louder when going fast and the main noise is tires.

EldritchFeminity,

In fact, low speed electric cars are quiet enough that they’ve considered putting speakers in them to alert pedestrians and make the absence of feedback less disconcerting for drivers.

We’re so used to ICE cars that they’ve contemplated making electric cars pretend that they have an ICE.

skulkingaround,

They should make it play the Jetsons car sound.

cerulean_blue,

They already do this in Europe and other countries where mixed car/pedestrian environments are more common. Electric cars must have some form of audible signature, usually a quiet whirring sound.

Goodtoknow, in Electric cars: The equivalent of switching from binge drinking whiskey to binge drinking wine.
@Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca avatar

They’re still just as noisy above 30 km an hour due to air displacement and tire on the road.

hperrin,

Depending on the ICE car, a similar EV can actually be more noisy, because of the heavy battery causing more road friction = more noise.

omgarm,

This is what I’ve learned the past year during my general acoustics course. Over 50 km/h EVs produce more sound.

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