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TrudeauCastroson, in Vehicles with higher, more vertical front ends pose greater risk to pedestrians

They got rid of pop up headlights but allow this bullshit.

I’d rather get hit by a NA Miata than a modern Ford F150

Sabre363,

They don’t want us to have cool cars anymore. Just ugly, oversized cruise ships that steal our data and try to drive themselves.

BossDj,

That’s right! Court ruling this week said data theft by car companies is super duper.

can, in Yes, also Teslas

EVs may even lead to increased tire debris.

tocopherol,
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I wouldn’t doubt people driving EVs may even have less sustainable lifestyles in general because of their absolved guilt from driving the EV. Not that the average driver matters much when considering cargo and air traffic.

squaresinger,

This is actually backed by research.

themeatbridge,

Your typical ICE car driver does not live a more sustainable lifestyle because of guilt.

Pipoca,

The largest sources of transportation greenhouse gas emissions in 2021 were light-duty trucks, which include sport utility vehicles, pickup trucks, and minivans (37%); medium- and heavy-duty trucks (23%); passenger cars (21%); commercial aircraft (7%); other aircraft (2%); pipelines (4%); ships and boats (3%); and rail (2%).

Yes, your average driver creates a fraction of the emissions of the average flight.

But there are hundreds of millions of drivers in the US. Billions of car trips. And only tens of thousands of flights.

Changing the impact of one driver is small. Systemically changing the impact of tens of millions of drivers adds up.

KevonLooney,

But less brake pad wear. The regenerative braking reduces a lot of the need for brake pads.

glibg10b,

Source?

Pipoca,

Regenerative braking is basically turning the motors into a generator to recharge the battery. If you brake regeneratively, you’re not using your brake pads at all.

Many EVs can have their settings adjusted to where 90+% of braking can be just regenerative.

KevonLooney,

Every mechanic who’s worked on one? Everyone who’s owned one?

glibg10b,

Well, here’s a source to counter your anecdote

www.oecd-ilibrary.org/sites/…/index.html?itemId=/…

Although lightweight EVs emit an estimated 11-13% less PM2.5 than ICEV equivalents, heavier weight EVs emit an estimated 3-8% more PM2.5 than ICEVs. In the absence of targeted policies to reduce non-exhaust emissions, consumer preferences for greater autonomy and larger vehicle size could therefore drive an increase in PM2.5 emissions in future years with the uptake of heavier EVs.

nihth,

Thats pm2.5 in general, not specifically from break pads

Pistcow, in Gen Z is choosing not to drive

Who wants to pay 9%+ interest on a car .

My wife purchased a Subaru Legacy Premium new in 2018 with a MSRP of $23,000 and we looked at the exact same model but in 2024 because they added some safety features. The exact trim Premium for 2024 has a MSRP of $31,000k. That’s a 39% increase in 6 years. Same motor, looks nearly identical, just has collision detection and a better center console screen. We could have got those in the top trim in 2018 for $5k more.

We’re getting shafted at all industries.

max,

You don’t really have to buy a new car though, do you? Especially not using a loan. Nearly everyone I know, young or old, poor or well-off has a second hand car.

Pistcow,

Didn’t really have to but it was at sweet spot for trade in, $15k, was at the point it need new tires and registration. Tires $600+ and registration in Washington $300.

It was actually seeing $15k trade in that got me thinking about it since it was pretty close to our purchase price. Stupid MSRP went way up.

Transporter_Room_3, in US Pedestrian deaths rose a troubling 77% between 2010 and 2021.
@Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website avatar

In totally, completely, and in all ways unrelatedly: smartphones on the rise, gigantic pickups and suvs are on the rise, and tactile buttons you can hit without looking at a screen are on the decline.

and anecdotally it seems like since covid and not driving as much, everyone seems to have gotten worse at driving and still hasn’t quite picked it back up yet.

NarrativeBear, in US Pedestrian deaths rose a troubling 77% between 2010 and 2021.

This video here explains one of the issues one minute in as to why pedestrian deaths are rising. Definitely worth a watch.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh4H9qZ-_6Y&t=55

The way car companies are working around this legislation is why it’s so hard to find and buy smaller sized cars even if there is demand (think smart car size). It also makes our community’s less safe for pedestrian traffic and less enjoyable to walk.

ch00f,

The way car companies are working around this legislation is why it’s so hard to find and buy smaller sized cars

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax

TheaoneAndOnly27, in same bed length

I really like my 2003 Ford ranger. It's small, but can still haul enough that it works perfectly fine for when I'm picking up dirt for my garden. But also it's definitely not fuel efficient in the way that I'd want it to be. I wish they made something that size but newer.

coaxil,

Small???

jecht360,
@jecht360@lemmy.world avatar

It’s sad to say, but that generation of Ford Ranger is way smaller than trucks from the last decade.

billy_bollocks,

That’s because it’s a Mazda in ford clothing

jecht360,
@jecht360@lemmy.world avatar

In the US at least, it’s the other way around. The Ford Ranger is 100% Ford, while Mazda actually rebadged the Ford Ranger as the B series for the US market.

billy_bollocks,

TIL. Thanks for sharing buddy

cmbabul,

I’ve never really been a truck guy, I also hate driving large vehicles in general and both preferences predate both my knowledge and even belief in climate change(I was raised as an evangelical in the south).

If there was something like a Ranger or an S10 from the mid-late 90s with an electric motor I’d be all over it, fuck put out an electric El Camino and I’d rip my sleeves off on the way to the dealership

SeducingCamel,

There’s kits to convert the old Rangers to electric I think and there was an electric model from the 90s sold only to Ford employees. You’re definitely going to drop a ton on batteries though if you were trying to convert one yourself

Ashelyn,

As in, not grotesquely oversized?

ImFresh3x,

Have you seen a 2003 Ranger? They’re objectively small unless you are comparing them to a mini cooper or an 80s Miata.

TheaoneAndOnly27,

Man, I tried finding one of those cool websites where you can put like two cars together to compare their size. But it doesn't have the year of my ranger. But yeah, they're smaller than the new trucks by a lot. And they weigh about half as much. If you can get one of the older Toyota's or like a cool little Datsun, they're a little bit smaller, but really kind of in the mid 2000s was when trucks really started blowing up in size and absurdity.

Opafi,

I really like my two-and-a-half-tonnes death machine. It’s small, but can still haul enough that it works perfectly fine for when I need to dispose bodies that I just ran over. But also it’s definitely not fuel efficient in the way that I’d want it to be. I wish they made something that size but newer.

TheaoneAndOnly27, (edited )

My ranger is 3200 pounds.

Edit: Just checked cuz I was curious, and that is only 300 lb more than the Tesla model 3. Your comment felt rude and unnecessarily aggressive. I hope you're having a good night.

acastcandream,

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a small ranger

GospelofJohnny,

2002 Tundra here. It is definitely the perfect size for a truck. However, now that it’s pretty old and beat up, and I’ve moved into a denser city, I think it’s getting time for something new :(

mean_bean279,

I’ve been thinking a good business idea would be to make “restomod” Rangers. With luxury interiors and new engines with more fuel efficient setups. People do want them, but the chicken tax and CAFE makes it so Americans have no choice in trucks.

Nouveau_Burnswick, in Simple proposal to force politicians to improve road design

Every single public servant should get a free transit pass for the city they work in or live in.

Public service buildings should have parking for visitors and mobility requirements only.

Tippon,

This is the right idea. Cycling excludes the disabled and elderly, and doesn’t improve things for families either. Putting the public servants on public transport would incentivise them to make it better, and that would make access better for everyone.

I’d give the buildings some parking for night workers, if they’re not able to use the visitor or disabled parking, just because lots of public transport doesn’t run overnight, and it wouldn’t make sense for it to run.

grue,

Every single public servant should get a free transit pass for the city they work in or live in.

Public transit should be free for everybody.

Nouveau_Burnswick, (edited )

I agree. My point is making cars, generally, not allowed for public servants.

It’s a good pilot project to ensure transit is functional in an area, and public servants have a relatively stronger influence to improve things that will improve transit directly or indirectly.

By having public servants on public transit, you can almost force and alignment of their personal commute requirements, and the health of a city’s transit.

polskilumalo, in Yes, also Teslas
@polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Trams, trains, bikes. The Holy Trinity of sustainable transport that must be pursued instead of EVs for an actually livable planet.

Death to the car. Death to America.

Tarcion, in Yes, also Teslas

I love the childish smug energy of this comic which simultaneously suggests merely mitigating a serious problem is inadequate and also provides no proposed solution whatsoever. If solutions which have compromise because they are rooted in reality are a problem, I suggest finding a way to live in a world of fantasy.

Not_mikey,

Your right it is a childish problem because a child could think of the solutions you seem to be unable to, instead of cars we could use trains or bicycles, or just walk. Solutions from that fantastical world you lived in before you could drive.

Tarcion,

It is straight up delusional to believe we could just flip a switch and not have cars anymore. And I also notice you still haven’t provided an actual solution outside of “just use trains, bicycles, or walk.”

Whenever I see takes like this, I just assume they aren’t from, or maybe have never visited, America. The majority of the country was built on the assumption of travel via automobile from public transportation (or the lack thereof) to urban planning to housing. For the country to function without cars, it would require massive renovations to rebuild cities vertically, install a vast and complex rail system, and completely alter the culture of work and trade. And we can totally do this, but it will be very expensive and take a very long time, and to suggest investing in EVs in the meantime is somehow foolish because it doesn’t fully solve the problem is a bit dense. You can do both at once, not that we are, to be fair.

Fully investing in sustainable public transportation and infrastructure is something that would have to take at least a decade, even with absolute maximum commitment. So, yes, anyone who thinks that you can “just switch to trains, bicycles, or walking” is incredibly naive and absolutely fantasizing. Not suggesting it can’t be done but we have to live in reality where cost, labor, time, and public interest are factors and those make “just” doing it a bit more complex.

Not_mikey,

I didn’t say we could just flip a switch, like you said it will be a long and difficult process, but it will take even longer if we continue to focus on evs as the solution. We could do both at once with unlimited funds and will but we don’t have that, there’s opportunity cost, each dollar we spend on ev subsidies is one not going to projects that can reduce emissions by a lot more like high speed rail and electric bus infrastructure, and currently were spending hundreds of billions of public and private money on evs while almost completely ignoring the other more sustainable solutions. The sustainability movement in the u.s. has very limited funds and public will, and to spend most of that on halfway solutions is short sighted. We need to focus all the resources we can into this because like you said, even with that it would take decades and were running out of time.

I do live in America and have for almost all my life. I have traveled all around this country and know that most of it is extremely car dependent. But my reaction to that is not the problem is so big, we should just do small incremental changes, it’s the problem is so big and were running out of time, we need to do a full 180 right now if I want future generations to not live in a hellscape.

All of this is also just about sustainability, cars are bad for a myriad of other reasons, like the comic says, along with discouraging exercise and exasperating income inequality, and anything that helps people realize how bad they are and denormalizes them is a good thing.

SuiXi3D, in US Pedestrian deaths rose a troubling 77% between 2010 and 2021.
@SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

Now show me how much larger the average vehicle got during that time as well.

zik,

…about 77%

nohaybanda, in Parkable cities

What terminal car brain does to a mf

hexaflexagonbear, in Parkable cities
@hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net avatar

Americans when a city is made for people and not vehicles https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/ee23b920-4c2f-4ea5-bd13-7ffa717c9d31.webm

Irishscotchburner, in there still are too many cars in german cities

This Pictures Shows the “Striezelmarkt” in Dresden. It has an underground parking lot with 400 parking spaces. But it’s recommended to use the public transport.

Caitlynn,

400 parking spaces would never be enough for the masses at those Markets

Irishscotchburner,

Yeah and shouldn’t drive anyways if you consum alcohol on these markets.

ignotum,

Ideally you shouln’t drive if you have consumed alcohol, regardless of where you did it

makyo, in Go ahead.

I love how the made sure to get a helmet painted on that cyclist icon

HiddenLayer5,
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

“Hey, you’ll still die, but at least we’ll be able to identity your mangled corpse for your family!”

serratur,

Yeah they read, the nametag in the helmet

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

“The helmet held off the drunk redneck in the luxury truck just long enough for us to acquire a tissue sample from which the DNA was sequenced. We were able to positively identify the remains of your child. I’m sorry.”

Mycatiskai, in 8 lanes in one direction

The 401 is 18 lanes total in one section going through Toronto. 4 express lanes and 5 regular, add in more lanes when they exit and enter.

It is a ridiculous highway because all of that and it is still a fucking parking lot every day.

One train running past every 5 minutes would change a lot of people to transit instead of sitting in their cars.

Treevan,
@Treevan@aussie.zone avatar

If they added 1 or 2 more lanes, then traffic would be sorted for good. /s

Butterbee,
@Butterbee@beehaw.org avatar

We’re going to fix traffic I swear

Mycatiskai,

There is a doctor who episode where people live their whole lives caught in a massive planet wide traffic jam.

WetBeardHairs,

No, that was a David Attenborough special

Facebones,

It wouldn’t, unfortunately. My city got Amtrak service back a few years ago, and sooo many people I’ve talked to are like “I’m never taking a train again!” because they caught a delay ONE TIME, even though they don’t bat an eye sitting still daily on the interstate.

pkulak,

At least Toronto has 3 million people. This is a city that routinely holds 1/3 of its population in its own football stadium.

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