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IHeartBadCode, in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949
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NO TIPPING

My plans to topple the Motormat by flipping it on its side have been foiled!!

Madison420,

That’s not a demand. It’s saying you can if you want but you don’t need to because there is no server.

Still shitty that it’s a perk but still.

logicbomb, in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949

What the hell were they trying to do with those lines that are impossible to park between?

Neato,
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I think it's so you get centered as much as possible so you can reach the conveyor on the first try. When cars were more standardized in width. And so they don't waste space.

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited ) in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949

NO TIPPING

Cool but I wonder how they enforce that

PugJesus,
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Any extra money that goes in with the bill is treated as asking for change, one presumes.

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited )

Sure but the customer can leave money with dirty dishes, drive off and never be seen again.

I think it’s more of a suggestion: “We pay our employees to provide good service. If your experience was excellent, feel free to tip but don’t consider it mandatory.”

hglman,

The point is you don’t have to tip a server not that they disallow tips. It’s advertising it’s cheaper.

Buffalox, in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949

Only in America lol.

bassomitron,

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  • PugJesus,
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    I imagine the rampant car culture is what they meant, even in its nascent form here.

    Buffalox,

    Yes absolutely.

    sab,
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    Maybe I have my European biases, but it's amazing to me that the absurdity of eating restaurant food in your car rather than around a table is not striking to everyone.

    Of course, in the late 40s this would be a fun gimmick - what is really absurd is that the concept of eating in your car seems to somehow have become normalized somewhere along the way. Again, seen with European eyes - of all cultural differences, there are others I struggle more with.

    bassomitron,

    Oh, I don’t disagree! I absolutely hate eating in the car and would rather eat at someone’s home or a comfortable restaurant. I think many folks in the US would agree, but there are also many who do it to save time because we’ve allowed our infrastructure to be completely anti-mass transit friendly in the vast majority of the country.

    snooggums,
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    It was a combination of eating in the car or getting it and taking it to one of our many parks that had picnic tables.

    As a kid in the 70s/80s we regularly picked something up at the drive through and took it to a nearby city park when in town. On road trips we would pick it up and stop at one of the many roadside parks on the way to wherever we were going. No rating in the car because that was messy, even though I know other people did.

    Also convenient to pick up on the way home once both parents were working and there wasn't time available to cook a full dinner many evenings, what with sports and other youth activities.

    Yes, people ate in their cars too. But a lot of the popularity of druve throughs comes from being able to rush to the next thing with our overworked culture.

    MxM111,
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    That’s because in American cars we do have space both for driver and their food at the same time!

    Narauko,

    Your European bias is due to size and scale differences. In the post war period, America took the idea of the German Autobahn and ran with it in spades. The US has always been absolutely massive, and the Interstate Highway project allowed expansion on that same scale. It is not uncommon for people to live and hour or more away from work, and/or outside of “town”. This applies to both rural towns and city suburbs. Add to this the lack of mass transit, and it means that our car culture developed as an extension of the person, and of the home. The phrase “I live in/out of my car” is common here, and I’m talking about people that have an actual place to live. Just think in terms of spending 2-4 hours in your car each day, and it doesn’t sound so weird.

    The same thing happens in Europe and Asia where there is long distance mass transit, the only difference is where it takes place. If you or your whole family are going to be on a train for 2 hours (or more), no one is going to blink an eye at taking a snack or meal on the train. They even serve meals. Cars don’t have a snack trolly or meal service, so the drive through and drive in became our version.

    The old adage “a hundred years is old in the US, and 100 miles is a long distance in Europe” is the most appropriate lens to look at it.

    sab,
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    It's certainly an element to it, combined with a lack of leisure time resulting from longer working hours and weaker unions. The power of the automobile industry in infrastructure design certainly didn't help either.

    Still, the way we eat is so deeply ingrained in culture that I can't help but feel it goes deeper than this. People will not eat in their cars in Turin even though it's very much a car city. I'm from up north in Scandinavia where distances are greater (though more in time than in distance, as we travel on small winding roads rather than highways), and eating in the car still seems somewhat unheard of there.

    Not that you're wrong - I think there's a profound change in culture that has taken place, but I agree the distances in the US would certainly be one of the mechanisms behind it.

    I'm curious if people eat in their cars in Latin America now.

    Buffalox, (edited )

    It’s not meant in a bad way. It’s just the concept is pretty funny IMO, and it’s crazy USA did this in 1949, when many countries, even countries that weren’t poor, were still rationing after WW2. My father was a child back then, and only 2 people in the small town he lived in had cars, and this is Denmark, we were not a poor country.

    LanternEverywhere,

    The US didn't have it's manufacturing plants bombed to ruble, in fact the US's manufacturing capacity grew enormously during the war, and it then suddenly had no war to supply so it could all suddenly be put toward building other things. This is one of the reasons why the US economy grew so much after the war.

    Buffalox,

    Absolutely, nobody had production capability that came even close to USA.

    grue,

    Primary difference being you sit in your car versus at a table, of course.

    That’s a big difference! Literally, I mean: 10’x20’ for a parking space vs. what, maybe 6’x6’ for a 4-person table?

    bassomitron,

    Oh for sure, I just meant the concept of delivering food via conveyor belt to diners.

    roofuskit,
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    Not just a single conveyor, but one for each oversized table that only seats 4.

    angrystego,

    The primary difference is what it’s all about. You can ignore similarities with other restaurants like there’s food involved and such. The fact they are sitting in their cars is the point.

    PugJesus, in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949
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    Order and money goes in on the conveyor belt, food comes out on the conveyor belt. Truly a vision of the future!

    crackajack, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985

    Many may have been in position in the Swedish government right now…

    Diprount_Tomato, in Ignatius Sancho
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    There’s a much older example of a black intellectual in Europe, who mastered Latin and taught as a professor at the university of Granada

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Latino

    mysoulishome,
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    Yeah but we don’t have a picture of him looking sexy like old Sancho

    Diprount_Tomato,
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    Yeah, because it was way earlier. Portraits were mostly for kings and high nobility

    mysoulishome,
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    Right…right or wrong, history porn (and the internet in general) only cares if there is a cool visual to go along with the subject

    massive_bereavement, in Ignatius Sancho
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    If I had a time machine I'll just go to the past and tell them: "I come from the future to tell you that we have built a web that allow us to immediately share our thoughts across the globe interconnecting humanity, and We all think you suck" then jump onto my machine and disappear into another time to spread the message.

    Except for Ignatius, he's cool.

    an_onanist, in Ignatius Sancho

    “Tragically, his mother died shortly after arriving in the colony…”

    There’s so much tragedy in the first 3 sentences but this is the one that is given the descriptor.

    Bondrewd, (edited )

    One of the largest traumas as a child is losing your parents. It is more like an unconscious bond you lose so you will be scarred for your life without you actually knowing.

    It is not “better” for a few months old, it is worse from a psychological standpoint.

    There are occurences (Mate Gabor forexample) of children coming to have distrustful personalities because they were separated from their mother for a few weeks when they were like few months old.

    I cant exactly quote Mate Gabor, but it literally means you can be 50+ years old, someone fails to do what he/she said he/she will do and you cant stand to talk to the person for days or weeks. Its literally hardcoded into you.

    geizeskrank, in Ignatius Sancho

    Today Sancho is best known as a composer, writer, actor and opponent of slavery.
    After his death his letters were published.
    In it, Sancho recounts his life, an early account of enslavement, written from the perspective of an enslaved person.

    Linkerbaan, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985
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    The Dagestani did this yesterday but now the world gets really mad when you’re not nice to people that commit genocide.

    PugJesus,
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    Israeli civilians are not the same as neonazis. Please avoid conflating the actions of the Israeli government with the actions of civilians, or approving of antisemitic mob violence.

    lordxakio, in American professor standing beside two massive guards of the personal retinue of the Maharaja of Kashmir, 1903

    So assassins creed is accurate after all!

    uis, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985
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    She is probably USSR spy. Typical babushka.

    LongbottomLeaf, in American professor standing beside two massive guards of the personal retinue of the Maharaja of Kashmir, 1903

    Professor’s mustache is their size.

    Diabolo96, in Captain Nieves Fernandez, Filipino guerilla leader and former school teacher, demonstrates to a US soldier how she used her long knife to kill Japanese occupying forces, WW2, 1944

    Google “Comfort women” and you will understand a bit more. It’s not like mass rape wasn’t a USA thing also but Japanese made it a freaking system.

    Sibbo,

    Well yeah, it’s horrible. I always wonder though if the people who are being sent to fight for life and death have any capacity left to care.

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