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IHeartBadCode, in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949
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NO TIPPING

My plans to topple the Motormat by flipping it on its side have been foiled!!

Madison420,

That’s not a demand. It’s saying you can if you want but you don’t need to because there is no server.

Still shitty that it’s a perk but still.

Filthmontane, in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949

I’m assuming lots of smashing into the conveyor belts is what lead to this place’s demise.

logicbomb, in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949

What the hell were they trying to do with those lines that are impossible to park between?

Neato,
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I think it's so you get centered as much as possible so you can reach the conveyor on the first try. When cars were more standardized in width. And so they don't waste space.

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited ) in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949

NO TIPPING

Cool but I wonder how they enforce that

PugJesus,
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Any extra money that goes in with the bill is treated as asking for change, one presumes.

ChaoticNeutralCzech, (edited )

Sure but the customer can leave money with dirty dishes, drive off and never be seen again.

I think it’s more of a suggestion: “We pay our employees to provide good service. If your experience was excellent, feel free to tip but don’t consider it mandatory.”

hglman,

The point is you don’t have to tip a server not that they disallow tips. It’s advertising it’s cheaper.

MossyFeathers, (edited ) in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949

Damn, I’m almost certain I’ve had a dream about a place like that. Looks too weird to be real.

PugJesus, in 'Motormat' drive-in restaurant, Los Angeles, 1949
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Order and money goes in on the conveyor belt, food comes out on the conveyor belt. Truly a vision of the future!

Diprount_Tomato, in Ignatius Sancho
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There’s a much older example of a black intellectual in Europe, who mastered Latin and taught as a professor at the university of Granada

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Latino

mysoulishome,
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Yeah but we don’t have a picture of him looking sexy like old Sancho

Diprount_Tomato,
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Yeah, because it was way earlier. Portraits were mostly for kings and high nobility

mysoulishome,
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Right…right or wrong, history porn (and the internet in general) only cares if there is a cool visual to go along with the subject

HelixDab2, in Nonlethal sporting duelist firing wax bullets, New York, 1909

If it wasn’t for the fact that the BATF has decided that simunitions are too dangerous for civilians, you could still do this. There’s a company that produces non-lethal ammunition that can be used in certain models of regular firearms–with modifications–so that you can quite safely shoot someone at near-contact ranges. Obviously your long range accuracy is not great. It will break skin, but so will AirSoft.

pelletbucket,

I’m told servicemembers do fast draw routines with simunitions. apparently the trick is to start firing immediately and the recoil will bring your muzzle up faster

HelixDab2,

…That is not something that you would ever do. Where are those bullets going when you’re not on-target? Even if you don’t hit an unintended target, that’s wasted ammunition, and you aren’t carrying an infinite amount. Trust me when I say that carrying 6 pistol magazines each loaded with 20 rounds, in addition to a chest carrier with 7 fully loaded M4 magazines starts getting heavy.

I’ve done a little IDPA–and will be doing more–and that kind of shit would get you tossed out of a match IMMEDIATELY. If you spend enough time practicing, you don’t need to do that anyways; part of the air marshal qualification course involves drawing a pistol from concealment, and firing a single shot on target-at 7y-in 1.15 seconds or less. High-level USPSA shooters can complete Bill drills from draw in under 2.

pelletbucket,

these were soldiers fucking around with wax bullets during training. this was not a combat simulation

Successful_Try543, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985

She got honoured with a monument in Alingsås for exactly this. There is also an Wikipedia article about this incidence.

watersnipje,

“The Old Woman with the Handbag”

38-year-old woman

Konstant,

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  • nilloc,

    She easily looks 5-10 years older than my wife and I. And we’re in our mid 40s. But that still wouldn’t make her an old lady at this point.

    SgtAStrawberry,

    I’m happy to hear that the statu finally was put up. There was so much debate and arguments about it, mostly about it encouraging violence especially if taken out of context and also her still living family being unhappy with the portraition of her.

    I remember the debates but I never actually heard how it ended.

    zigmus64,

    The statue is awesome, but it fails to capture the hatred and aggression in the photo.

    LetMeEatCake,

    Yeah I was going to say, the statue didn’t capture her facial expression.

    ashok36,

    The statue is titled, “The Old Woman with the Handbag”.

    The woman in the picture was 38 when it was taken. The artist made her look older for some reason.

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
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    I think it’s just time doing its thing. The artist probably saw her as old because she dressed like an old person dressed in 2015.

    odradek,

    I don’t think she was particularly youthful-looking in 1985 either tbh.

    ObviouslyNotBanana,
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    Probably not, no, but I can’t see what else lead to the name. The artist must just have assumed due to clothing and style.

    odium,

    The man hit by Danielsson was identified as Seppo Seluska, a militant from the Nordic Realm Party later convicted for the torture and murder of a gay Jew.

    Of course he did.

    PeleSpirit,

    The left was different there

    Runesson’s photograph was published the next day on the front page of the Swedish national newspaper Dagens Nyheter, and on April 15 by two British newspapers, The Times and The Daily Express.[3] Another photograph taken by Runesson during the event shows the 10 Neo-Nazis being chased, pelted with eggs and violently confronted by a crowd made up of hundreds of attendants of the left-wing rally joined by local Växjö residents. One of the Neo-Nazis was kicked unconscious on the ground, then saved by one of the protestors who reportedly took pity on him. The far-right activists eventually managed to shelter in the toilets of the city’s train station, hiding there for a few hours until the police transported them away.[3][5]

    SkyeStarfall,

    Back then Nazis were nearly universally understood as bad. Especially since there still were many living survivors of the Nazi’s genocide.

    If this happened today, the left would get endless criticism. But I fully agree we should bring this back.

    PeleSpirit,

    I think hitting them with a purse, throwing eggs and making them hide in toilets is fine, but the unconscious thing isn’t something I would recommend. They probably already have brain damage, they’re nazis.

    IHaveTwoCows,

    You do not understand the assignment

    Successful_Try543,

    They understood how talking to nazis needs to be done.

    Tammo-Korsai,
    @Tammo-Korsai@kbin.social avatar

    B-but it's literally Nazism to refuse to tolerate Nazis!!!1! (Never mind the fact that tolerance would be the thirst thing to go in a Nazi-dominated society.)

    HerbalGamer, in South African diamond miner being x-rayed at the end of his shift to prevent theft, 1954

    Remember kids, these are the kind of things that got Elon his money

    Cloudkid,

    I don’t like Elon Musk, his buyout of Twitter was horibble and I don’t agree with many stuff he says, that begin said

    story about Musk’s father once owning an emerald mine evolved into a larger rumor that had no evidence to support its central claim. Source

    Anticorp,

    Of course Elongated disputes it, he enjoys the fantasy that he’s a self made man.

    Spacebar,
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    I have a filter on Sync to not see Musk content, yet somehow he keeps leaking in.

    On Lemmy, it’s like a party game to see where you can get Musk into a thread.

    ruckblack,

    I don’t think sync has filtered comments yet, which is annoying. I still see hexbear garbage in the comments sometimes.

    tja,
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    Indeed, not a whole emerald mine, the same source:

    We located reporting from as far back as 2009 and 2014 that said when Elon Musk (“Elon” hereafter) was a child in South Africa in the 1980s, his father (“Errol” hereafter) at some point owned “a stake in an emerald mine” near Lake Tanganyika in Zambia, not South Africa.

    umbrella,
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    his father literally confirmed he had an emerald mine

    kadu,
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    His father openly admitted it himself. No primary source will be better than the culprit himself.

    BossDj,

    According to the article, the “rumor” started in 2014 when Elon went on an interview tour and SAID that his dad had an emerald mine to multiple publications. He told an elaborate story to one about riding in his dad’s plane full of emeralds and ak-47s

    The research couldn’t find financial proof of any claimed debt, since Elon won’t provide any. But “hand shake” deals about illegal emerald smuggling tends not to have a paper trail.

    Then, a year after this article came out, Elon tweeted “I’ll give a million doge to anyone who can prove it existed” and his dad replied that it existed and that Elon had been there.

    Errol also went on an interview tour (after this article was posted) and told multiple publications that he did own a share of an emerald mining business. But Elon wasn’t lying because it technically wasn’t in a hole, but an outcropping!

    Since changing his mind on the subject, Elon had since only admitted that his start up was supported by selling his own PC for 2k, a 5k gift from his “bro” and 8k from some other guy. But later a SmAaLL LoAn (as they like to say) of 200k from his dad and others. But that was later, you guys.

    ComicalMayhem,

    Got any links for this? Would love to read more on it.

    BossDj,

    Everything I said was noted in the original source (including getting money from his dad, his own claims of being extremely wealthy, etc) but Elon’s subsequent tweet offering money for evidence and his dad replying to confirm that he owned one was great hilarity that I first saw on Reddit directly linking to Twitter.

    Here’s a good breakdown, including interview with Errol describing the mine: thedailybeast.com/elon-musks-dad-errol-shares-dea…

    This might have been his first interview calling out Elon on the tweet: the-sun.com/…/elon-musks-dad-errol-emerald-busine…

    Steeve, (edited )

    I don’t get why people focus on the emerald mine aspect. Turning 200k into billions would be impressive regardless of where the initial cash came from, if he wasn’t just some lucky schmuck who’s shitty website got bought out in the Dotcom bubble.

    Edit: Yikes, goes to show that Lemmy users can’t finish reading a comment lol

    BossDj,

    Where is this goalpost exactly?

    Steeve,

    What?

    BossDj,

    Welp we had “Elon used emerald money” then “no evidence of that!” To “Here’s evidence” and your thought “Well is wasn’t much!”

    Very apologist.

    It’s never surprising to me when billionaires had wealthy parents. Hiding money is their jam.

    Steeve, (edited )

    I’m not the person you replied to initially, I never said he didn’t have emerald money. Lol did you think it’s just you and one other person on the internet?

    And apologist? The fuck are you talking about, my point is that Elon Musk is a fucking loser that won the lottery in the Dotcom bubble. Websites aren’t expensive, he didn’t need capital. He’s a narcissist who got lucky and mistook it for genius.

    But seriously, can you people really not read two sentences before deciding someone is a “billionaire apologist”? Jesus dude.

    BossDj,

    Hey Mr. “Everyone is stupid but me”,

    1. “I don’t get why people focus on the emerald mine” and “Turning 200k into billions would be impressive no matter where the money came from” – both are things you said, both excuse the things we were talking about. Yes you called him a dip shit too. But apparently an impressive one.
    2. I know you weren’t the initial comment, but this is a thread, which means you’re continuing a conversation. Away from the cruel exploitation of emeralds mines to who cares and he’s an impressive dip shit.
    3. We’ll never know if 200k to billions is impressive because nobody else gets to have a 200k loan from their dad except wealthy people
    Steeve,

    Nope, just you.

    1. I actually didn’t call him impressive. My quote: “would be impressive […], if he wasn’t […]”. But it is impressive that Elon Musk triggers so much rage in you that you can’t even read a comment that’s agreeing with you on what a fuck he is.
    2. Have you ever actually had a conversation or do you just argue back and forth? This is how it works, you thread to related topics. This is a related topic.
    3. Business loans don’t only come from a parent lol. Obviously the wealthy are born with a privilege that no bank loan can match, but there are wealthy entrepreneurs that didn’t start off with rich parents. There are also plenty of entrepreneurs that didn’t turn 200k into billions. I think we can pretty safely deduce that an ROI of 6 orders of magnitude is not standard practice, regardless of who your parents are. But again, you’re missing my point, that this “impressive feat” was actually all just dumb fucking luck.
    BossDj,
    1. “Nope just you” – You accused a dozen people who voted you down of not being able to read. You specifically said Lemmy users can’t read, so maybe the entire user base? By the way I didn’t vote down anything. You also tossed in a “you people” for good measure.
    2. The “…” part dismisses the important bit of "regardless of where it came from. So it’s not read as “would be … if” but instead “would be … regardless” which might be everyone’s confusion by your comment?
    3. Which doesn’t continue the conversation, but dismisses it.
    4. I’m sure there are plenty of people getting 200k dollar loans out there. Vast vast majority? Nah. That’s the “we” I’m talking about. It at least seems like each billionaire came from rich families, even though it’s trendy to pretend they’re self made, but we can’t prove anything either way because it’s all hidden. Self made with Harvard connections for the win!

    Oh, and yes I hate Elon Musk, like anyone who is using their power/influence to cause harm to others. Dude’s attacking Wikipedia right now for fucks sake.

    Have fun out there and stay safe

    Steeve,

    People pile on downvotes before they finish reading a comment, welcome to the internet. If you think downvotes mean anything then you must be real new around here. But the bizarre part is that you’re still arguing like I’m disagreeing with you lol. You pretty much just expanded on what I said about wealth privilege in #4 in an argumentative strawmaney way to make an entirely different point than where we started, so who’s moving goalposts?

    BossDj,

    Got it, downvotes are random from stupid people who don’t read I guess. Except that time it was “just me” then it went back to the others, too, again.

    Instead of arguing that you disagreed, I offered a suggestion of why (now 22 people) thought you were being dismissive or apologist or otherwise didn’t like your comment (unless they’re all just stupid and can’t read).

    And replying to your thought on “plenty of entrepreneurs” is a strawman? You brought it up. I was talking about getting money from family. The ones who had college paid for and got family loans and pretend to be self made. Then you brought up bank loans and entrepreneurs. So I did what you said and continued the thread. Websites like to make lists of handfuls of people who didn’t do it with connections.

    Anticorp,

    Not things like this, this exactly. He’s the trust fund baby of an apartheid era emerald mine baron.

    crackajack, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985

    Many may have been in position in the Swedish government right now…

    massive_bereavement, in Ignatius Sancho
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    If I had a time machine I'll just go to the past and tell them: "I come from the future to tell you that we have built a web that allow us to immediately share our thoughts across the globe interconnecting humanity, and We all think you suck" then jump onto my machine and disappear into another time to spread the message.

    Except for Ignatius, he's cool.

    geizeskrank, in Ignatius Sancho

    Today Sancho is best known as a composer, writer, actor and opponent of slavery.
    After his death his letters were published.
    In it, Sancho recounts his life, an early account of enslavement, written from the perspective of an enslaved person.

    Linkerbaan, in Woman strikes a Swedish neonazi with her handbag, 1985
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    The Dagestani did this yesterday but now the world gets really mad when you’re not nice to people that commit genocide.

    PugJesus,
    @PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

    Israeli civilians are not the same as neonazis. Please avoid conflating the actions of the Israeli government with the actions of civilians, or approving of antisemitic mob violence.

    UnspecificGravity, in South African diamond miner being x-rayed at the end of his shift to prevent theft, 1954

    This looks like a fluoroscope, basically an X-ray that is constantly turned on. The tech is looking at a live X-ray view, not a film transparency.

    The radiologic exposure for both of them is orders of magnitude higher than a normal x-ray that we think about. A normal xray exposes you for less than a second, this is bombarding him with X-rays the entire time he is standing there.

    carpelbridgesyndrome,

    Plus he had to do this every day at the end of his shift. Between that and the rock dust exposure I’d hate to see the cancer rates for those guys

    UnspecificGravity,

    I don’t think any of these folks were making it to retirement either way.

    Cethin,

    It’s bad for them, but imagine this doctor. He has to examine every one of them every day. If he didn’t die of cancer he must not have lived very long.

    Duamerthrax,

    *technician

    This guy doesn’t deserve to be called a doctor.

    RedAggroBest,

    Just because a guy in the past was a doctor doing shitty things is no reason to shit on x-ray techs. We really shouldn’t put one type of work above another.

    Duamerthrax,

    X-ray techs don’t have a hippocratic oath to violate. That’s the thing separating the two in this context. If you don’t want to call him a technician, that’s fine, but he disqualified himself of being a doctor and I hope he got same the cancer he was giving out.

    Vytle,

    I dont understand why your shitting on this guy. Whats he supposed to do, organize a coup in the slave mine? How do you know the tech wasnt trafficked himself?

    livus,
    @livus@kbin.social avatar

    @Vytle @Vytle Apartheid era South African history.

    Basically the miners there are more likely to be coerced, through things like having been fined and the "pass" system, not trafficked.

    In the case of the technician, he is almost certainly a free person. Working class whites normally earned at least 10x the wages in SA mines, even for the same job. But it is unclear whether he belongs to the Apartheid classification "white" or "coloured" (who had less rights and lower pay).

    What people are shitting on is his participation in a system of oppression and segregation which devalued the lives of Black people. These mines had incredibly high tuberculosis rates too. He is also using medical technology in a reckless way that causes harm.

    But I think you are right in pointing out that to some extent he is a victim of his situation /lack of education, even if he has more privileges and a better situation than the Black mine workers.

    AnAngryAlpaca,

    So you are saying he obtained multiple Superpowers from the ungodly amount of radiation?

    UnspecificGravity,

    Sure, if you consider having a shit ton of tumors to be a superpower.

    100_kg_90_de_belin,

    Can I throw them at my enemies?

    MycoBro,

    I think you may have meant “yeet” them at “solicitors”

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