You must have read the instance wrong of who you’re replying to. What’s with all of this I don’t believe anything being said anywhere crap… why even go on the internet and talk to anybody? You might as well be role playing in a chat some where.
With the major news going on right now there’s tons of people that don’t believe anything being said. Even if there’s photos and videos showing what they’re saying they don’t believe. It’s mind boggling.
What evidence do you need of anything sitting at a keyboard and not doing anything about anything though? I just don’t understand any of the arguments going on between people that aren’t going to do anything about anything other than typing on a damn keyboard.
Up untill Davel, every single user I got a reply from relating to stuff I said on that thread was either a Hexbear or Lemmygrad user and every user since Davel has been aswell.
What you said was that they were “coming after you”
I’m just making the point of stating that my conversation with you has not been “aggressive” nor has it mentioned the topic at hand. And I’m from hexbear.
I just mean that usually when I say something controversial, the people arguing against that are from all over the place, but in this case the opposition seems to be coming from these two instances almost exclusively. Even in this thread, that’s been posted on lemmy.ml there’s still a disproportionate amount of Hexbear users replying. I can’t say for certain, but it sure feels like they’re looking for me rather than just stumbling across this post.
Lol I browse All, I see a thread with lots of comments, I drop in. Nobody’s looking for you, get over yourself. Take the L. Sit out your 30 days and ply your debate pervert shit somewhere else in the meantime, the Internet is a huge place.
I’m not sure what that community would even be. I’m not interested about being surrounded by bunch of yes-men. I want my community to call me out on my bullsht because I’m going to do the same for them.
Well not really. Mostly people are just being mean and/or saying I’m wrong but no one is trying to change my mind. When I made the first post that got me banned I had just woken up and had only skimmed thru the news, but the more time passes and I look into it the more comfortable I feel with my original conclusion. At the moment it seems almost certain that it indeed was a malfuncioning Hamas rocket shot from Gaza strip and there’s plenty video evidence to back that up.
Proof you haven’t even done the first iota of investigation into the federations you talk the MOST shit about; as if you did, you’d see half the time we’re locking horns with each other over who’s got the materially correct line. No investigation, no right to speech.
We’re active in political threads since we’re both explicitly leftist instances (grad is ML, Hexbear is leftist of different stripes). Hexbear doesn’t have down votes so if we see something we disagree with, we say something. There’s not really a ‘downvote and move on’ mentality, so you’re likely to get multiple users replying to a post.
Yesterday, at 7:00 PM, Al Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza, which is our partner in the Diagnostic Cancer Treatment Center, was hit by two Israeli rockets. Fortunately, the extent of the damage was limited.
Today, the hospital has received orders from Israeli authorities to evacuate the facility, including patients, staff, and 3,000 Gazan people who have sought shelter within the hospital’s premises.
We call the international community and all humanitarian organizations to take action to prevent the evacuation orders for Al Ahli Arab Hospital and the other 22 hospital, as this action poses a significant risk to the lives of numerous patients.
here is a 2014 article regarding Israel bombing hospitals
The third floor of the Al-Aqsa hospital in Deir al-Balah was struck by Israeli shelling, killing four people and wounding dozens, according to the Gaza Ministry of Health spokesperson.
“Today’s attack on the Al-Aqsa hospital is the latest in a series of attacks on and near medical facilities in Gaza, which have been struggling to cope with thousands of injured people since the Israeli offensive began on 8 July,” said Philip Luther, Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.
That’s because, currently, the community stats that you see in the sidebar are only from your instance – community stats are currently not federated. Afaik, federated community stats are going to be implemented in 0.19.
Israel is conducting a bombing campaign against Gaza
Israel has threatened to attack hospitals
Israel has previously bombed hospitals
Israel has previously bombed this exact hospital
The audio and visual characteristics of the bomb and the damage caused (captured by multiple, independent observers) match with a JDAM guided bomb, which Israel has already used
Israeli sources first claimed the hospital was a Hamas base or had Hamas tunnels or arms caches, before rapidly rolling back their position to "we didn’t do it"
It is clearly in Israel’s interest to kill Palestinians and destroy Palestinian infrastructure, especially medical services and supplies, because they are conducting a genocide
The argument for it being Hamas:
Israel says it was
Reddit, or rather reddit-logo, is controlled by the US security state, so r/combatfootage - which banned all combat footage from Palestinian viewpoints - is not a reliable source. The idea that a ‘rocket piece’ could accidentally fall on a hospital and kill 500 people (a number reported by a first-hand MSF witness) is laughably absurd. If a Hamas rocket could cause this kind of damage, Tel Aviv would look like the surface of the fucking moon. It was OBVIOUSLY another genocidal act by the entity continuously and overtly engaged in genocidal acts. To think otherwise requires you to want to fall for their propaganda. No one in full possession of their faculties looking at the facts dispassionately could possibly conclude it was anything else.
If it was JDAM then where are the pictures of the leveled hospital/crater? Where are the pictures of 500 dead people? That’s A-grade propaganda material for Hamas so why isn’t it all over the internet? All I’m seeing is this picture which judging by the fence and tree is from outside aswell as this with a matching fence, couple burnt cars and some damaged roofing tiles. Ofcourse there’s also the video posted by IDF of aerial footage which matches that picture from the parking lot and shows a very much intanct hospital building.
EDIT: Here’s a video from that same parking lot. I wonder why they aren’t filmin the leveled hospital instead.
If this is how Lemmy is ran then I will need to find another community
Lemmy is not ran in any particular way.
That’s one community one one instance. On most instances, anyone can create a community and become the god of what is allowed there. That doesn’t mean it’s representative of the rest of that instance. But even if it is, you can post to other communities on other instances.
There is one mod on one community doing something dodgy (or just got a report about it being antisemitic and assumed they were right - after all, there’s no training course for being a lemmy mod). This is certainly not the way “lemmy is ran” and thinking lemmy is run in any particular way is missing the core aspect of what lemmy is.
This seems straightforward. You posted your opinion (which is inherently true - no one but you has access to your inner mind, so we must take it on faith you are honestly presenting your opinion to us) and the mod misrepresented this as fact so it could be labeled as misinfo.
But I doubt posting here will fix that. Mostly what you seem to have managed is to attract genocide supporters from Hexbear to troll you. As I understand it, the best way you can handle this on Lemmy is to simply find similar threads on a different instance to engage in discourse in.
‘Genocide supporters’ you crackers have supported Israel’s commission of apartheid for 30+ YEARS but let someone pipe up that it’s wrong and they’re the genocide supporter. Please go fly yourself by your ankles; you don’t deserve your humanity.
There unfortunately is no system in Lemmy (atm) to do this smoothly. When I was on lemmy.world, I used their system they had set up separately and that worked well, but for most instances, the only process to do something like that is to DM an admin directly, which will of course have greatly varied results, and that’s if the admin isn’t supportive of the abusive mod in the first place.
I see more and more toxic behaviour here. I get that this war/conflict gets to us. And everyone has strong opinions and the debate is emotional. But it reminds me more of the toxic atmosphere that used to be part of Twitter.
I suppose the mods of political communities are having a bad day since the conflict escalated. And they are part of the debate, sometimes maybe making their decisions emotional, instead of neutral and based on reason alone. I -personally- think a 30-day is a lot, even if it is spreading misinformation. But I didn’t have a look at the facts here.
Judging by your comments in general, you seem quite an argumentative person. I usually don’t like people focusing on negativity and (for example) debunking a single argument out of a post and then concluding they’re right and someone else is entirely wrong. It leads to us having unproductive and stressful conversations, once we manoeuvre ourselves to opposing sides that lose the ability to communicate productively and grasp the bigger picture and the context that things are set in.
So. Please whoever is in the right or wrong, make Lemmy a nice place and not a clone of the toxicity and argumentativeness on Twitter. And don’t yell at people too much.
OP, please be aware you’re often a very argumentative person and a big part of your way of talking to people is opposing them.
please be aware you’re often a very argumentative person
I’m well aware of that. It’s the reason I’m on Lemmy on the first place. I love a good, long debate but I still try and be polite and listen to the counter-arguments and engage with what people are saying instead of attacking them as a person.
Judging by the comments here, I’d say it isn’t working. (That doesn’t mean it’s necessarily your fault at this point.)
All I want to say is: You and the people outright attacking you here are setting the tone of the conversation. I don’t feel entitled to lecture anyone on how to spend their time on the internet. For me, this thread is too toxic and not my vision of what Lemmy should be like.
Unfortunately, the really toxic people have arrived here, targeting you and spreading hate. I don’t think this going to become a productive conversation after that. And I really don’t have good advice here. I’m going to flag the comments that are hatred and then I’m out. I’m going to focus on some more productive things somewhere else. I wish you the best. Hope Lemmy strives to become a space for diverse opinions, constructive debate and not hatred and small-mindedness.
B-but I just want to have a civil debate about why genocide is ok, why won’t anyone be nice to me? Wyahhhhh, such toxicity! People are so small minded if they can’t accept ethnic cleansing :(
There’s a user in this thread calling us the genocide deniers while Israel unceasingly and unrepentantly destroys Gaza and its people. Like. No self awareness. No historical awareness. Just ‘Oh I have a more nuanced view of the situation’. Nuance my fucking gooch.
Dudes, Duderinas and people from all around… While I said something in the meta-debate here, I’m not engaging in the underlying argument. What are you trying to accomplish here? The people you are talking about are suffering horrible atrocities. All you can think about is hating on each other on the internet… (There has to be a better way to deal with the situation.)
Social sanction has been a part of human community dynamics since we first progressed past grunts and gestures; and you’re gonna ask a sealioning question like that.
It’s only ever the whites going to bat for Israel’s commission of genocide, too-- why? Because what Israel’s doing is 1:1 with what the colonizer pilgrims did to America. So no, I am never going to support that; because given my way, my lineage NEVER would’ve been stolen by crackers in the first place. I’d rather still fuckin be Afrikan than have to be lumped in with these murderous settlers.
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