the init is just a binary, the others systemd features are different programs from different binary, and you are not forced to use them, you can use only the init and don’t use the others, it’s not gonna affect security, systemd init is the most tested one
and you can’t, a lot of technology that make NixOS and others immutable distros works exists only because of systemd
and if others init system worked as well, the entire of the linux community would not have changed voluntarily nor indenpendently to it
What do you think of some day seeing a fork of nixOS that uses other init systems and works well? Or is it just me that likes this idea?
doubt, is too much work just to make a systemd alternative, without the reliability and support that systemd have, but i think it could be a fun hack
Does anyone use this? I’ve yet to find a defining feature list of why anyone should use it aside from cosmetic differences. Does it even have a defining feature set?
It seems ok, guess I should try the free version before making judgements, realized the pro is ONLY $50 and completely optional. Sorry
at minimum Seems they charge a shitton for “bonus” software like they’re a wannabe windows or some fuckin shit. Avoid this if you have any respect for yourself or open source software
$2,000 for autocad? Misunderstood what the site was saying Doesn’t sound like the kind of thing a linux distro should be selling. When was the last time Debian tried to get you to spend thousands of dollars on it??
They are just showing you that you don’t need to spend $2000 on Autocad and other listed software, because Zorin has all these open source tools bundled in it.
Though tbh replacing Autocad or office365 with FOSS alternatives are bold claims because these alternatives just aren’t viable in a commercial environment.
It’s just support, for people that can afford it or want it. The bonus software is all free or foss, the rest are wallpapers or other gnome themes that can be get otherwise
Having respect for free (as in “libre”) software means caring if the software can sustain its own development, and not just caring if you get it free (as in “gratis”). It’s not always viable to support a project on donations and free time the way GNU is. xkcd.com/2347/
Tbh I used it few months ago and it’s a pretty decent noob distro but I had some annoying graphical issues caused by snaps, which zorin use(d?) even by default so I can’t recommend it because of that. It also doesn’t allow much customization but that’s GNOME for you.
spoilerAlso, this is just a me thing and not the distro’s fault, but I couldn’t stand having Zs everywhere even if it is a pure coincidence and I actually know the volunteers stand with Ukraine.
It’s a good distro for those who want an easy introduction to Linux, I just think Linux Mint or Pop_OS are better, but there’s many who use it and swear by it.
A better question might be why shouldn’t they? I’m not being pedantic (at least not intentionally) but if their defining characteristic is that they’re nothing special, just a simple Linux distro that does the basic shit easily enough and looks nice - that has major appeal to people unfamiliar with Linux looking to leave other OS’s behind. The vast majority of people that use an OS really have very little idea how it works or why. They just want some basic level of understanding and control over it.
Zorin was, at least a few years ago, tailored to be easy to adapt to for people switching from Windows. This new version looks beautiful, I’m going to take it for a spin!
That’s not exclusive to Zorin however, that’s just a Gnome 42 feature (unless the base gnome implementation is the one you’re referring to that needs configuring in the terminal).
oh yeah. its an out of the box for folks (like myself) who like that. Lots of apps preinstalled including play on linux. So I can install and start using without adding any additional software. Its not the only oob distro but combining that with the look feel emulation is great and I have never seen an oob that sets up wine so well to use immediately. So its a bit like a combo of a gaming distro with oob and then the lookNfeel thing.
I use it. It’s great. I’ve tried Linux many times over the past decade but it never stuck until Zorin. If you’re coming from Windows it’s a very friendly (and polished) way of being welcomed to Linux while also showing off Linux’s strengths, things that are often hidden to the user unless they want to explore the terminal.
For Mac users who are Linux-curious I would recommend Ubuntu because it’s much similar, whereas Zorin seems clearly designed with people who liked Windows 10 but not Windows 11.
I disagree: elementary is quite limited with really basic desktop features out of the box, limited personalization, weird interface decisions with some ugly panels, and pretty behind on updates, relying heavily on their own walled gard-
Linux Mint is my daily driver. I enjoy tinkering, but I also want a distro that doesn’t need it when I get home from work and just want a vodka tonic and some memes.
As i see it, the term “firewall” was originally the neat name for an overall security concept for your systems privacy/integrity/security. Thus physical security is (or can be) as well part of a firewall concept as maybe training of users. The keys of your server rooms door could be part of that concept too.
In general you only “need” to secure something that actually is there, you won’t build a safe into the wall and hide it with an old painting without something to put in it or - could be part of the concept - an alarmsensor that triggers when that old painting is moved, thus creating sort of a honeypot.
if and what types of security you want is up to you (so don’t blame others if you made bad decisions).
but as a general rule out of practice i would say it is wise to always have two layers of defence. and always try to prepare for one “error” at a time and try to solve it quickly then.
example: if you want an rsync server on an internet facing machine to only be accessible for some subnets, i would suggest you add iptables rules as tight as possible and also configure the service to reject access from all other than the wanted addresses. also consider monitoring both, maybe using two different approaches: monitor the config to be as defined as well as setup an access-check from one of the unwanted, excluded addresses that fires an alarm when access becomes possible.
this would not only prevent those unwanted access from happening but also prevent accidental opening or breaking of config from happen unnoticed.
here the same, if you want monitoring is also up to you and your concept of security, as is with redundancy.
In general i would suggest to setup an ip filtering “firewall” if you have ip forwarding activated for some reason. a rather tight filtering would maybe only allow what you really need, while DROPping all other requests, but sometimes icmp comes in handy, so maybe you want ping or MTU discovery to actually work. always depends on what you have and how strong you want to protect it from what with what effort. a generic ip filter to only allow outgoing connections on a single workstation may be a good idea as second layer of “defence” in case your router has hidden vendor backdoors that either the vendor sold or someone else simply discovered. Disallowing all that might-be-usable-for-some-users-default-on-protocols like avahi & co in some distros would probably help a bit then.
so there is no generic fault-proof rule of thumb…
to number 5.: what sort of “not trusting” the software? might, has or “will” have: a. security flaws in code b. insecurity by design c. backdoors by gov, vendor or distributor d. spy functionality e. annoying ads as soon as it has internet connection f. all of the above (now guess the likely vendors for this one)
for c d and e one might also want to filter some outgoing connection…
one could also use an ip filtering firewall to keep logs small by disallowing those who obviously have intentions you dislike (fail2ban i.e.)
so maybe create a concept first and ask how to achieve the desired precautions then. or just start with your idea of the firewall and dig into some of the appearing rabbit holes afterwards ;-)
I used to “virtual distro hop” because I tried a lot of distros in VMs before dualbooting. I installed Tumbleweed and haven’t changed ever since.
I don’t regret keeping my distro, I’ve been curious, of course, but I think i already have it all:
Stability
The newest updates
I know my system very well
By knowing my system, I can fix most problems and I know where to go if I can’t.
I sometimes try distros in VMs, but with that and Distrobox I think I already have everything I could need to learn and try them in case I need to work with them in the future :)
Arch Linux, rolling Linux distribution, would give you the newest stable software, with probably new application features, but you can use distrobox, podman-toolbox, VirtualBox, KVM (QEMU) or a live Linux cd image to play with Arch Linux every now and then, without having to install it :)
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