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taladar, (edited ) in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

RHEL and other extremly long term support distros that have a significant user base because they hold back a lot of software features, network protocol features and moves to new dependencies that are required to work on the oldest and the newest supported distro for any given upstream software project.

Also, any time I have to learn something about a quirk in a version of software in use there it is basically wasted life time because the knowledge is already outdated by the time I obtain it.

nous, (edited ) in This guy has a good take on linux companies, agree or disagree?

Oh, just invest in adobe and get it developed for Linux - easy, why didnt anyone think of this before. And better yet, if they do invest they could make it a PopOS exclusive!!?!?!! \s

It wont work because Adobe does not care and there is not enough market share in Linux for them to bother with it. No amount of money that PopOS has will be able to convince Adobe to develop it for Linux and there is no way in hell Adobe will give them access to their source to develop it for Linux. That whole argument is just a non-starter.

vikingtons, in Is Ubuntu deserving the hate?
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They’ve embraced Wayland, pipewire, gnome and what not, but snap is really questionable, particularly in the Linux ecosystem.

I gather it can be somewhat annoying to contend with (I.e. some apps on Ubuntu may only be available as snaps?)

Numpty, (edited )

Snap is a steaming pile of excrement. So much of the crap on the Snap Store is obsolete and out of date. Anyone and their monkey can post a snap on snapcraft, and… they do. Canonical is just as bad. They took it upon themselves to package up a lot of commercial-level open-source software 3 or 4 years ago… and then have done fuck all with it ever since. Zero updates to the original snaps they put there in the initial population of the Snap store (yes they do maintain a select few things, but only a small percentage of the flood of obsolete software in the Snap store). The result is people looking to install apps who poke the Snap store, go “oh hey, the application I want is there”, install it, and then get all pissy with the vendor… who looks about in surprise wondering how a potential customer managed to find such an old version (happened with at least 2 of my employers, and I’ve come across many more). Go search Reddit (or Google) for obsolete snap discussions. There’s no shortage people pointing at the same issue.

vikingtons,
@vikingtons@lemmy.world avatar

I wasn’t aware of this situation, that’s really good to know.

I’m not keen on the snaps being centralised behind a proprietary server. I don’t really get why anyone would put up with that in light of Flatpak.

nakal,
@nakal@kbin.social avatar

This doesn't seem to be a problem with snap. Canonical probably tried to show vendors a way how to distribute software commercially. But vendors are on the level of cavemen and don't know shit about Linux even after serving a solution. Or they simply don't care about building up a market opportunity.

I don't want to defend Ubuntu. I don't like Ubuntu especially, but it might be a simple explanation.

Numpty,

It’s a problem with Canonical. They stepped up and created the snaps and then abandoned them instead of maintaining them. They still maintain the core that they include with the distro… it’s all the extras they created to pad out the store… and then abandoned. “Look the snap store has so many packages”… yeah… no… it doesn’t.

Why would a company who makes a commercial level open source package want to add snaps to their already broad Linux offering? They typically already build RPM (covering RHEL, Fedora, openSUSE, Mandriva, etc.) and DEB (covering Debian, Ubuntu, all Ubuntu derivatives, etc.)… and have a tar.gz to cover anything they missed. Why should they add the special snowflake snap just to cover Ubuntu which is already well covered by the DEB hey already make?

Sure, show vendors what’s possible, but if Canonical stepped up to make the snaps, then they should still be maintaining them. It’s not a business opportunity… its more bullshit from Canonical that no one wants.

merthyr1831, in Nifty terminal command: xdg-open

<3 XDG, bringing so much utility and cross-compatibility to Linux regardless of your distro and window manager

jerrythegenius, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?
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My least favourites are probably ubuntu and manjaro, not so much because of the distros themselves but the organizations behind them being a bit dodge.

AlfredEinstein, in Any Advice? Ubuntu on Panasonic Toughbook.

Please share your process and results. This project looks bad-ass.

#😘🤌

medic273, (edited )

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/32e7106e-f3ee-425c-a2b5-1fc17a6c69c8.jpeg

Success!!

Edit: Used balenaetcher to flash Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, install was simple. I used ZFS for encryption (unsure how I feel about it right now, might switch this later), and activated Ubuntu Pro. During setup I selected ‘install 3rd party drivers’ and seemingly most hardware that worked before on win10 is working in Ubuntu.

Panasonic Toughbook CF-33 with Emissive Backlight Keyboard. Nothing special as far as hardware. Intel Core i5-6300u at 2.4 GHz, 16GB ram, 256 ssd (I mainly use 1TB SD cards for removable storage). It has extended battery packs which do add weight and bulk to an already chunky laptop but the quote to replace with standard batteries was $500 so I’m gonna wait on that.

Thanks everyone!

HurlingDurling,

Congratulations!

Now, decorate it with cool stickers!

Blisterexe,

If you want a more windowsy layout, you can use the "dash to panel# extension to accomplish that

akincisor, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

I never figured out why, but I couldn’t get any version of suse to work properly on my computers. I’ve been with Debian (sid) for about a decade now, so not the most up to date criticism here.

sirico, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?
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I’d agree with Manjaro, It was my first I kinda know Linux distro after brown Ubuntu and Mint at the time it really worked well, but then package desyncing started affecting my installation followed by the first of many controversial behaviours from the team. It’s one of many Linux distros that hasn’t progressed much in the last few years, like elementary, and the idea it is easy to arch is false when you end up having to babysit updates because testing isn’t as up to par as something like Fedora or Mint.

Garuda is a distro that has swung from a do not install to prob the best “Welcome to arch” distro for me. Their focus on tooling is getting up there with Mint & Suse BTRFS manager being a shining program of the project. More so, shows how utterly pointless Manjaro has become and badly managed the project is.

aniki, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

Ubuntu / snaps

dontblink, in Reddit API blew up and now I run Linux?
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It’s the path of many of us here, now you will hate linux if you come from windows, give it a couple of months and you’ll ask yourself how the fuck you could be on windows till now.

Rudee, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

Not a whole lot of experience distro-hopping here (went from Ubuntu to Endeavour and haven’t really changed since) but from what I know it seems like most distros have their place. Arch is highly customisable and all rolling release distros are good for gamers and those who need the latest software. Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, and other LTS distros are good for servers and newcomers (fewer big updates and therefore fewer potential crises)

For the sake of answering the question, I’d say Ubuntu is my least favourite. Its pretty bloated, and then there’s the whole snap fiasco

s20, in Rhino Linux 2023.1, how we made the distro

So… is it Snap infected err… Snap based, like Ubuntu? Because otherwise it looks kinda neat.

pnutzh4x0r,
@pnutzh4x0r@lemmy.ndlug.org avatar

It does not use snaps, according to First Look at Rhino Linux, a Rolling-Release Distro Based on Ubuntu and Xfce:

Ubuntu fans who don’t like Snaps would also love to hear that Rhino Linux doesn’t include Snap apps, nor Flatpak apps.

atomkarinca, in "Must Try" distros and DEs?

if you’re looking for an original distro, you should try void. it’s super lightweight. i used to keep away from gentoo because it was a source only distro, i would otherwise go fulltime on it, but now that it also has binary compatibility you should check that out, too.

as for wm, i love wayfire as a floating wm, and sway as a tiling wm.

qaz, in Which terminal emulator do you use?

Konsole

LoveSausage, (edited ) in Suggestions for consumer cloud syncing on Linux?

Nextcloud as already mentioned.

I got a 1tb lifetime deal on internxt , but very basic options. ( Securitywise really good though) Syncthing to sync between units for small stuff.

Review www.cloudwards.net/review/internxt/

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