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kzhe, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

Endeavour OS?

trivial_wannabe, in How many of you run a Linux phone (Pine64, Librem etc) as your daily driver?

I used a pinephone as my daily driver for about a month. Importantly, this was 3~4 years ago, things could be better now.

My take at the time: The battery life was bad, the phone was slow, MMS did not work, making a receiving calls was iffy at best.

I really really hope this improves/has improved over time. Android gets more and more difficult to de-google. A linux phone would solve a lot of privacy issues (not all, but some)

MigratingtoLemmy,

I hope so too. However, that doesn’t seem to be the case. The PinePhone Pro is still treated as a development device by PostmarketOS, for example

Pantherina,

It sucks that GrapheneOS supports only Pixels and nobody came along and ported it to other devices, although less secure.

But “Android gets harder to degoogle” is not true. Pixels are just way too expensive

MigratingtoLemmy,

I’m waiting for devices to get the 5.10 kernel or the ones after it, so I can run supported KernelSU builds and take my life into my own hands.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Pixels are just way too expensive

LOL what? The A series are some of the cheapest modern phones you can buy, and an incredible value…

Pantherina,

Yup then that is pretty messed up. I was used to phones not costing over 200€, maybe 300

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

The only phones that cost that much are either several years old (in which case you can include used Pixels) or are riddled with bloatware and spyware and the absolute cheapest of materials that won’t last long enough to make buying it even make any financial sense.

Pantherina, (edited )

Nokia 7plus back then. Great hardware, nice materials. Still working great but nearly no software updates. An indian guy develops LineageOS for Nokia phones though

MigratingtoLemmy,

And the commenter is lamenting how greedy companies are getting and customers agreeing to get themselves bent for these corporations. Apple started the pricing model and Samsung followed suit, and now everyone just takes it as default pricing. This is a pathetic state of affairs

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

and now everyone just takes it as default pricing.

Who does that? There are several great phones you can buy for <$400. The phones of yore were trash.

MigratingtoLemmy, (edited )

Which ones in that range, released in 2023 have custom ROM support?

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I mean I’m sure there are plenty of others, but the one that comes to mind is the P7a

MigratingtoLemmy,

Just so happens to be the only one in the USA

AnomalousBit, in How many of you run a Linux phone (Pine64, Librem etc) as your daily driver?

Would really love to but have yet to see basic phone functionality covered in a way that isn’t a painful compromise. Stock Android is a privacy nightmare, which is why I left it. I had some fun with Cyanogenmod back in the day, maybe there’s another de-googled Android distribution around today but since I last checked I couldn’t find one that runs on modern mainstream hardware without really jumping through some crazy hoops to establish root.

rImITywR,

Cyanogenmod became LineageOS. It can be run fully de-googled or with Gapps.

GrapheneOS is also worth looking at.

Both run on modern hardware and are super simple to install.

AnomalousBit,

Will definitely give these a look, thank you for the updates.

Can you speak to your experience with any of these? Would love to hear a first hand account!

Extrasvhx9he,

I’m not that person but I’ve been using GrapheneOS for about 8 months now. Setting up an esim was probably the worst thing I had to do but it was still relatively easy. Lmk if you got any questions

rImITywR,

I ran Lineage on my OnePlus 5 for a few years until I replaced it with a Pixel 8 last month. The first thing I did with it was install GrapheneOS. I have not had any issues so far.

MigratingtoLemmy, (edited )

I would have to dispute your claims on this one. The only really modern mobiles running Lineage OS (by modern I mean released in this year and the previous year) are perhaps some European Xiaomi/Realme devices, maybe a couple of Samsungs, the last-gen OnePlus and some Motorola devices, and the Pixels.

As I have been complaining for a long while now, the entire custom ROM market is moving towards the Pixels, which is a dreadful move in my opinion, but what I can do

ryannathans, (edited )

Motorola edge 30 runs just fine and has done practically since it launched, typing this on it now

MigratingtoLemmy,

In Europe? AFAIK Motorola’s latest devices don’t have builds on the Lineage OS website (from 2023) but I might be wrong.

ryannathans,

Australia

MigratingtoLemmy,

Lucky

ryannathans,

Why?

MigratingtoLemmy,

You get more options

JackGreenEarth,

Yeah, my Motorola g73 isn’t supported.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Yeah

kick_out_the_jams, (edited )

It's mostly up to which manufacturers allow boot loader unlocking.

The pixels are somewhat a continuation of the nexus line which were more developer centric.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

Would really love to but have yet to see basic phone functionality covered in a way that isn’t a painful compromise. Stock Android is a privacy nightmare, which is why I left it.

I’ve been using GrapheneOS for about a year now and it’s a giant leap in privacy and security (much better than iOS), with very little compromise in functionality.

MigratingtoLemmy,

iOS being secure is a farce which the population has just gobbled up without reason

bremen15, in I'm so frustrated rn.

Usually it takes me less then two weeks to get e.g. a printer to work. Your problem is not the distro but the hopping.

Mechaguana, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

Kde plasma if you game

gerdesj, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

Start off with Gentoo to get the hang of the basics. Switch to Arch because compile times and heat burns. Try Linux from Scratch for a laugh, giggle and move on, but with a new found respect for distro maintainers.

What’s your use case? If it involves AAA games then that will narrow things a bit but if you simply want a bit of docs n that and, internet browsing and a spot of email and realtime sound and CAD then we’ll need a broader chat.

Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenSuSE, Mint - those would be my starters for 10 in no particular order. Pick yours and your hip angle. I personally run Arch (actually) and Gentoo. I don’t recommend them as a dip your toe in the water job 8)

Feel free to dive in, the water is lovely.

thespezfucker,

my use case is mostly contained of playing games and and a slight bit of actual work, not triple a tho

Aquilae,
@Aquilae@hexbear.net avatar

Fedora, Mint, or Debian would all be fantastic for that.

thespezfucker,

noted!!

modcolocko, in Looking to switch to Linux in the somewhat distant future

Know that you’ll probably hate what you try first. Personally I say you shouldn’t use Pop_OS!, but its better than being scared of making a wrong choice. “distrohopping” is a great way to learn.

tldr: just do it

thespezfucker,

I would but personal issues are holding me back atm

init, (edited ) in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

Food for thought: you should start getting familiar with Linux, either with Virtualbox/VMware, or dual booting right now. When the time comes and Win10 reaches EOL, you know you will find reasons to just go with the flow and stay with Microsoft.

As for what flavor? There are a few that come to mind as “windowy”: Zorin, Mint, and the anything that uses KDE Plasma. Personally, I prefer Pop!_OS because I use MacOS as well and prefer that feel to windows a bit more, and System76 has done a fantastic job of making a polished product.

That’s what I did, anyway. The mental load of still having windows to fall back on if I couldn’t do something helped make the anxiety lighter and also helped me be motivated to try new things out. I couldn’t imagine having to learn something with a gun to my head!

Naz, in When Windows 10 dies, I am going to jump ship over to Linux. Which version would you recommend for someone with zero prior experience with Linux? **Edit: Linux Mint it shall be.**

Linux Mint is great, I used it as a daily driver in college on an old IBM T42, however, modern Linux on a modern PC – Debian/Ubuntu with KDE.

Basically, Kubuntu.

Kubuntu gets you off the ground running with Debian core, KDE Plasma, which is familiar to the Windows workflow and all the compatibility of Debian/Ubuntu. Steam and Proton work FLAWLESSLY via Vulkan API. Zero loss of performance.

If you want to spend a ton of time relearning an OS/tinkering however, get some flavor of Arch.

The AUR is crazy, it’s like a huge software library and the Wiki is expansive, BUT, you will be relearning absolutely everything.

Sorry other Linux people, I’m a jaded lifelong Windows user, who unironically uses Kubuntu and Artix on seperate machines.

BlanK0, in Raising the Bar: Introducing the new App Metadata Guidelines

Better flatpak curation poggers 😯😯

BlanK0, in TIL that operating system Linux is an example of anarcho-communism

And I think Lemmy is also an example of ancom due to the fediverse and the self-hosting aspect 🤔

tom42, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?
@tom42@beehaw.org avatar

Another NixOS user.

toastal, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

NixOS, would like to try Guix

Adincar, in What's your experiences with Debian and Rocky as a homeserver OS?

I’m using Rocky on my main server at the moment, I was/am used to Debian based operating systems beforehand but wanted to learn red hat without dealing with Oracle directly.

It was definitely a step curve getting to understanding the os but I’m quite happy with the stability of Rocky and it does everything I need and more. I think the real question is which would you get more enjoyment out of as far as learning and personally I don’t think the learning curve is as steep with Debian.

The best thing I can advise is just back up your data regularly and if you’re not vibing or something breaks don’t be afraid to change to something different, though as an arch user I’m sure you’re used to things breaking.

Vincent, in Introducing Spiel

This looks fantastic and I want it now. I hope they pull it off.

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