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velox_vulnus, in wayland, not even once

I’m not an expert on Wayland vs Xorg, but don’t you think it is unfair to not let a new protcol be given some time to improve?

safefel556,

It had 15 years to improve. You could write a new operating system in that time.

anyhow2503,

It already has improved. You’re just very ignorant in your idealism. I’ve used it at home and for work for at least 6 years now and the problems have honestly been way less than expected for an X replacement. Screensharing was probably the biggest hurdle initially, but even that has worked for quite some time now. The last remaining issues are pretty much down to individual applications.

You could not write an operating system even remotely comparable to Linux in that time with the ressources the Wayland devs had available.

HumanPenguin, (edited )
@HumanPenguin@feddit.uk avatar

LOL x11 was created in 1984. I started with it in 1994. By 2000 it was still a long long way from perfect. Heck that is why wayland x12 is created. Because x11 has some old fasioned ideas that really do not fit so well today.

As for making an OS in that time. Well microsoft seems to have taken way longer then 15 years. And few would ever say they are perfect.

Honestly I am far from a wayland fan. I do not consider it a valid replacement for x11 yet. I also use Nvidia. But it is and will get there. Likly just in time for folks to start wanting a replacement. That is sorta how this stuff goes in the FOSS Operating system development cycle.

Dr_Willis, in A symptom of linux past traumas

two little tips:

you can backup your EFI partitions, in case you mess them up. I find it a good idea to back them up in any case, I have had EFI partitions get Filesystem corruption.

also the tool rEFInd can work as an alternative boot menu it has the ability to scan the entire system and show all found Bootable OS at boot time.

So with rEFInd, you install it, set it as the default, and it should show windows automatically.

it looks nicer than systemd-boot and grub as well. And it can even show bootable USB flash drives, and has a few other features.

Atemu, in A symptom of linux past traumas
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

systemd-boot discovers windows automatically, no need for configuration.

barrett9h, in Calling all Linux enthusiasts! Help us create a comprehensive guide to Linux firewalls and security!
  1. Install OpenBSD
  2. ???
  3. Profit!
possiblylinux127,

No thanks. I like to stay on the beaten path

drwho,

That’s understandable. However, pf (OpenBSD’s firewall system) is incredibly logical and easy to use. I never expected to write a fully operational (bloody thing worked the first time I tried it!) firewall ruleset on a two hour flight from scratch.

Dups, in A symptom of linux past traumas
@Dups@sh.itjust.works avatar

My condolences

flashgnash, in Linux distribution for gaming and media centre.

If your main concern is UI distro doesn’t really matter, the thing you need to think about is desktop environment, most big distros let you choose from a few

TL;Dr I would suggest looking for a distro with kde plasma as it’s quite customisable and looks quite clean out of the box. Personally I prefer gnome out of the two but you definitely hit a wall eventually customising it

Gnome is what Ubuntu and fedora use by default I believe and looks somewhat like Mac (but is fairly distinct from everything else, you kinda have to see for yourself)

KDE Plasma is what the steam deck uses in desktop mode and looks kinda like modern windows.

Cinnamon is what Linux mint uses which also looks like windows 10 and is designed to appeal to windows users

Pop!os recently released their own DE called cosmic, but they were originally using their own customised version of gnome

bbbhltz, in What do you think about this?
@bbbhltz@beehaw.org avatar

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/d5b2e59d-8e47-45be-b2c7-8d633f5ca6c2.webp

Don’t like that he called some distros pointless. I would have found a better word. Lots on there that I have never used, obviously, because I am not a sadist. I couldn’t tell you what would be good for gaming or not, but flatpaks have made some things easier (or so I’ve heard, don’t quote me on that). And Fedora is a “Devil?”

Anyway. While I don’t watch this channel ever, I am aware of it as a reputable channel for things like this, so it might be trustworthy.

Why are Debian and Arch at the top? Debian is one of the grandaddies. Many distros are built on Debian—MX, Mint, Ubunu, Pop, Zorin, Neon, etc.—and there are many packages in the repos, which are divided into stable, and testing, and unstable sections. So, a Debian base can be stable or extremely up to date. The Debian community and maintainers are another reason the distro is so well-liked. Arch also has a large selection of packages, an excellent wiki, and the AUR to have access to anything missing from regular repos. Manjaro and dozens of others are based on Arch as well, meaning the community is rather large.

No need to follow rules and conventions though. There are many people, myself included, that use Alpine for their desktop because the packages are very up to date.

Papercrane, (edited )

Interesting that you said Arch has a good wiki. Maybe its just because its not common for beginners to start with Arch but when i read through the installation guide i noticed that there is no explanation on how to create a bootable usb in windows, at least the part for how to verify the signature wasnt explained for a windows user. For Linux Mint it was pretty much at the top, how to create a bootable usb in windows. I was very suprised that this guy called fedora and ubuntu the “devil” when i saw many people here use fedora.

One question though, you talked about packages and how they are sometimes different. How much had the amount of options for packages an effect on you, or anyone, while choosing your distro?

bbbhltz,
@bbbhltz@beehaw.org avatar

How much had the amount of options for packages an effect on you, or anyone, while choosing your distro?

The number of packages was not something I looked at. I checked the availability of the packages I wanted, and whether or not they we’re up to date.

When I switched to the current distribution I’m using, I did not plan on using it for more than a few days. I just wanted a quick and easy way to try out an up-to-date version of a DE on a low-powered device and have the newest version of the browser I use. It worked so I put it on my main laptop and it still works

If I were going for numbers, Nix has the most I think. The AUR is up there as well. Debian is in 3rd place. But, like I said, I didn’t really think about that.

sederx, in gamescope through the heroic launcher is WAY better than steam

Finally, I really don’t want to use that steam garbage

jeansibelius, in wayland, not even once

This guy don’t even understand what Wayland is, but feels comfortable to judge it.

Cralder,

My favorite part is where he admits to being mad without even knowing what Wayland is.

Edit: When I wrote the above, I didn’t really realize what Wayland even was, I just noticed that some distributions (like Fedora) started pushing it onto me and things didn’t work properly there.

BennyHill500, in toolbox vs distrobox. Which one to use?

All of the universal blue images come with distrobox so I gotten used to that, it’s nice that you can export apps so they appear in the DEs application menu

netwren, in GitHub - Acly/krita-ai-diffusion: Streamlined interface for generating images with AI in Krita. Inpaint and outpaint with optional text prompt, no tweaking required.

This is wickedly cool and I was wanting something like this last night. Crazy that I stumble on it the morning after.

kittenzrulz123, in change my mind: Ubuntu does the same thing as Android

I’ll address all your points

  1. It’s just GNOME but slightly modified
  2. How? Gnome includes a terminal that technically exists (even if slow)
  3. Just use sudo

As for the differences

  1. Ubuntu is open source (Android =/= AOSP)
  2. Sudo is enabled
  3. Ubuntu repository
  4. Gnome is a proper desktop (and can even be a traditional desktop with extensions)
  5. Can be heavily modified
  6. Telemetry can be disabled
  7. The most controversial feature (snaps) can be removed
  8. Ubuntu uses the standard Linux kernel
  9. It’s a desktop operating system
  10. It’s not owned by a multi billion dollar ad company
drwankingstein,

(Android =/= AOSP)

can you elaborate on this? this is the first i’ve heard this take. rather I would say Android =/= gservices

kittenzrulz123,

Android generally refers to a complete Android system that includes Google software and services along with additional OEM bloat. Meanwhile ASOP is extremely bare bones and parts of it are being abandoned.

drwankingstein,

I guess AOSP is barebones, but it’s not like anything is being abandoned that matters, AOSP itself is still alive, kicking, and thriving. Interesting to hear that people consider Android, AOSP + proprietary bits. It’s not something i’ve used myself

Markaos,
@Markaos@lemmy.one avatar

Interesting to hear that people consider Android, AOSP + proprietary bits.

Google owns the Android trademark, and they won’t let you officially call any OS that doesn’t meet their requirements Android. And their requirements include Gapps among other things. That means AOSP is not Android.

sebsch, in wayland, not even once

Let Wayland not destroy everything and then have other people fix the damage it caused.

Here I stopped reading. This can’t be more then a salty bullshit post with nothing than unfair assumptions.

db2,

The only one that really might have some merit is the argument about portability.

hunger,
@hunger@programming.dev avatar

Small communities have a hard time staying up to date. X11 was ported decades ago, when non Linux OSes had more mind share and commercial backing. I doubt anyone could port X11 if that was the new thing mainly developed on Linux today.

cerement, (edited ) in wayland, not even once
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

someone jonesing for their daily Windows 11 advertising dosage

safefel556, (edited )

Why would i advertise windows if i’m defending x11 you fucking retard. People who spread fud about x11 and blindly advocate for wayland are the ones who want to sabotage linux and make it unusable.

WallEx,

Oh, you’re conservative, that makes sense. You just want the things to stay the way they are. I mean, it’s the opposite of progress, but there are a lot of people like this.

anyhow2503,

People who spread fud about x11

Who does that? X11 is ancient. It’s a known variable in every possible way. How would you spread FUD about it?

In reality the ones who advocate for Wayland the most are the people who used to thanklessly maintain X…

TechAdmin, in Package up and transport a linux?

For the OS side a few ways.

  • Clone & then rename+change drivers
  • Ansible/chef
  • NixOS

For home folder side of things a dotfile manager, cloud services, and file sync tool will take care of most things. I use chezmoi for dotfiles & nextcloud for file syncing. Firefox is only cloud synced service I still use for now. I have yet to find any decent sources of information on dotfiles so gonna be stuck going through those stupid things to figure out what you want to sync.

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