i like using bottles & steam flatpaks on debian because they use newer mesa in their containers. so the best of both worlds with stable debian but more updated gaming drivers
Similar reason, with flatpaks having codecs with them so no need for outside the distro codec repo. (Talking about openSUSE here but might be the same for Fedora)
I couldn’t believe the spec of that pile of garbage the phone when i first saw it. The worst being that It has a Mali-400 MP2 (2 cores, the most famous and used varient is MP4 with 4 cores), a GPU from 2008. I know it’s supposed to run linux but they choose the cheapest SOC they could find and then asked the seller if he had any unsold SOCs from the last decade they could use instead.
The saddest part is that when I pointed this, I was always told that it’s made for tinkerers and not users, but this doesn’t excuse the use of extremely outdated hardware. I didn’t expect the latest powerhouse but even 30$ Chinese tvboxes had the latest rockchip SOCs…
The phone is from 2019 and i think even back then the SoC was a compromise.
It has more quirks. There have been some hardware issues. And mainline Linux and a Linux Desktop is still struggling today with power management. Like getting chat messages while it’s asleep. It’s really not for use except for tinkerers.
But I’d agree. A newer, properly usable and powerful Linux phone would be great. Idk if there are good SoCs out there with fully open-source drivers and bootloader. And power consumption that lasts you a day.
And mainline Linux and a Linux Desktop is still struggling today with power management. Like getting chat messages while it’s asleep.
And the really sad thing is that the power management improvements devs have been working on for the PinePhone are really very specific to that particular device and don’t help mobile Linux in general (so it’s basically wasted effort).
A newer, properly usable and powerful Linux phone would be great.
Totally ! Honestly, when i first heard of a linux phone, I had stars in my eyes. I expected medium-low tier specs but that would likely more than enough to for Linux. The actual specs made me cringe because the phone was e-waste before even launch. I think I actually over exaggerated calling it a piece of garbage, I just expected too much from a small company on a niche market.
AMD APUs are beasts !. That would be a computer disguising as a phone. Now, that’s what I would call a revolutionary product. Kinda like Samsung Dex but libre.
Well, let me put it plainly, if you are selling better, I’m buying. So far the one thing Pine has done better than a lot of people talking is doing. They are not the only ones, e.g Purism, but at that price range and who actually did deliver I haven’t seen better. Pointers welcomed.
Do you think releasing a phone with hardware that is 10 years ou of date is logical ? let’s transpose it to the laptop market. What if system76 sold a laptops with a Pentium 3.x Ghz Core 2 duo, 4GB ddr3 and a Radeon HD 3xxx GPU and a 240 HDD for the price of a current medium-low end computer ?
I’m not sure what your point is. I’m not arguing that you are wrong, I’m saying it’s “just” talk, meanwhile I’m ready, today, to buy better if you can provide.
I’m saying it’s “just” talk, meanwhile I’m ready, today, to but better if you can provide.
A 200 dollar Xiaomi phone or a used pixel phone is at least 10x more powerful than the pinphone. After unlocking the bootloader and rooting it, you can use termux and have a linux environment at hand. You can even install a DE and access it. Enjoy. The plus is that you don’t lose any compatibility with android apps .
I really hope you don’t go around telling anyone that is criticizing something to just make a better version, do you ? You don’t need to be chef to say bad food is bad. To make it easier to understand let’s transpose it again : There’s a novel motor design that is free and open source. Someone make a car using it and sell it but the car can’t go beyond 20km/h and has a range of 50km. Would you tell anyone that says it’s unusable to just make a better one ??
You focus on performance while I focus on the ability to tinker. That’s perfectly legitimate and we don’t have to have the same needs. It though shows me that we don’t have the same understanding about the point of Pine64, especially as you mention Termux or rooting (which I’ve both used and done numerous times, sadly) as if it was equivalent to selling an actual Linux phone in the first place. I actually do NOT want Android. The point I believe is not to sell a replacement for end users today (even though, clearly, it would be nice, and I believe Purism is closer to that) as it says on the product page, but rather show that a legitimate (again, not hacks) alternative is possible but it must be built by the community. And yes, I do tell people who make criticism that it’s not enough because very often it shows what I believe is the case here, a lack of understanding of what it takes. That being said, again, I sincerely enjoy being proven wrong (means I can learn, new opportunities), hence why I’m not teasing you when I say I can put my money where my mouth is if you can do better. I believe in fact that’s what open source is all about, we’re in it together, to do better, to be better.
Have them check with their University if they do any Linux support. If they do - use one of the distros they support so they might possibly have KB articles about accessing University recourses from Linux.
Source: am Linux admin at a University that writes such documentation. I have seen exactly the Eduroam issue you mention and came up with an Ubuntu workaround for example.
I think your best bet is Framework laptops. If not, ThinkPads have superior Linux support.
Otherwise, pick your favorite model and read online. Also see if you can find your preferred model on Arch Wiki (laptop page).
Myself some time ago I’ve purchased Asus laptop. Spent quite some time (hobby) to get everything working (e.g. fan control) and documented everything in Arch Wiki.
Then I’ve got Asus Zenbook. Also had to participate in kernel bug report and test, because there were no audio. Eventually it got fixed in upstream and started to work.
Then I’ve got MSI gaming laptop. Had to participate in Intel DRM code issue, because 2K 240Hz panel was limited to 2K60Hz mode and eventually it got fixed too in upstream. Few workarounds are there and there, but eventually got it to work almost 100%, but audio is a bit…broken. Works fine, just first few secs after silence are silent.
Basically what I am trying to tell - manufacturers might introduce software-controlled hardware features that might work only in Windows. It requires experience and extensive knowledge to make everything manageable on Linux. :)
A warning about Framework, they’re on the bleeding edge of modular laptop design (not hardware). So while they may shift laptop design entirely, the bleeding edge always cuts. I don’t know anyone with a Framework laptop and if you’re the first person you know IRL to have one be prepared for unexpected issues. I really hope the idea takes off but I don’t envy the first adopters.
Just in case you are on a desktop and using qemu for local virtualisation, I would recommend you use virt-manager.
Besides that, set up spice or vnc daemons in the guests, as others have said.
Just in case You’re virtualising Kali Linux, use their provided qemu image, you won’t have to worry about it. If you don’t know what Kali is, don’t use it.
Thank you for the virt-manager recommendation. I’ll look into it.
I did build Kali from their ISO but I’ll give their provided image a try. I do know what Kali is and what it is used for. I’ll be using it for TryHackMe labs.
Okay, so my guess was right. Don’t bother setting things up manually, qemu and libvirt are hellishly complex. If you don’t need something super special, use virt-manager.
Just use the provided qemu image on the Kali site, import it, and you’re good to go. Don’t worry about the other stuff.
Depending in your screen you might have to set a custom screen resolution, but if you’re using something standard, xfce should automatically recognize everything.
A little tip: set up an ssh server on the VM and upload an ssh key, that way you can get a Kali she’ll quickly from the comfort of your hosts terminal.
I do as well. I really appreciate the information density, key bindings, and optional web UI. Although I found if I leave glance is running for a prolonged amount of time, it has a tendency to crash from some python issue I haven’t dissected yet, as it takes so much time to reproduce.
I use btop, iotop, jnettop, and radeontop. I rarely need any individual piece of information any of them but they make for an incredible spread of blinkenlights.
hollywood is an installable app which when run takes over your machine with a fullscreen terminal and multiple panels with lots of dyanamic data to look like a hacking scene from a Hollywood film. :)
Mint has very nice tooling but its a weird Ubuntu derivate. One day a specific software doesnt install, or you have an XOrg problem that will never be fixed, or standard updates simply break something, and then…
Mint is nice and easy to get going, but its outdated a lot, and uses a Distro model that I dont like to install on random laptops that are never updated.
So you’re a power user? Case in point, you’d be better for Fedora.
Also my second distro was mint, after 3+ years of the old hdd’s non-use, I pulled it out last year when my install of some OS broke, updated it to zero issues (I was curious), used the software for a bit, all was good.
3 years without an update to zero issues.
Haven’t seen any issue with Mint updates yet like I’ve fought in Fedora
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