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Kory, in The CEO of PROTON answers YOUR questions! Drive, Linux support, Photos, features, and a lot more!
@Kory@lemmy.ml avatar

Is there a text version of this interview?

juli,

I don’t know but I listened to it on a walk

jayandp, in LXD now re-licensed and under a CLA

Fucking Canonical at it again.

Fizz, in The CEO of PROTON answers YOUR questions! Drive, Linux support, Photos, features, and a lot more!
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

He seemed like a decent guy and that was enough for me to finally make the switch from Gmail to proton and buy prem.

verysoft, (edited )

Enjoy pop-up ads trying to sell you a subscription when you just want to view your inbox! The one bad thing about their service.

Lettuceeatlettuce,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Then host it yourself, it’s open source.

teolan,
@teolan@lemmy.world avatar

The backend is not

Lettuceeatlettuce,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Well yeah, there are a bunch of FOSS mail back end frameworks you can use to integrate.

teolan,
@teolan@lemmy.world avatar

But they don’t support the same API. This is completely off topic.

yum,

Can it be blocked with uBlock Origin (on the web view)?

derin, (edited )
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

They mentioned that they bought premium, so they won’t be seeing ads. Edit: Multiple people below are telling me that purchasing premium does not remove all ads, so that’s actually quite annoying.

As an aside, I really don’t get the logic of using a service like e-mail and just expecting it to be free - it’s very bizarre to me.

If it’s something important to you (as I assume e-mail is), pay for it - or stop whining about ads/nagging pop-ups.

And if you can’t pay for it, download Dovecot and try doing it yourself - it’s a fun experience, and will make you appreciate the work done by email providers. Spoiler alert: it’s a massive pain in the butt.

verysoft,

You get premium ads if you are on a plus subscription or a free account. Once you get premium though, then they start advertising the family pack to you!

derin, (edited )
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

Hmm, guess I was wrong, then - that would be very annoying; especially if you’re getting pop-ups for a family plan you won’t ever be able to make use of as you’re a solo user.

Tja,

Can confirm. If/when something happens to the VPS I’m hosting mine, I’ll be moving to a fully managed solution. Probably cheaper, too.

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

They still put unremovable ads in your inbox when you buy premium. They’re fairly subtle but still incredibly frustrating.

lyth,

In case you didn’t know, you can turn off promotional emails in Settings -> Dashboard -> Email Subscriptions or by adding a mail filter to push them all into an advertisement folder, and the other ads can be mitigated by hitting “don’t show this offer again” on each one

helenslunch,
@helenslunch@feddit.nl avatar

I didn’t know that. But that’s sort of the problem. As a paying user, I shouldn’t have to go searching through my settings to disable it. They do the same shit with user signatures.

subtext,

My problem is that I only need to use the VPN, but I get pop ups all the time asking if I want to subscribe to their all in one plan or buy their black Friday deal. When all I want to do is connect to the VPN.

So yes, even when you subscribe you still get pop ups (and in their apps too so you can’t even use ublock origin to block them).

pathief,
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

If you just use the VPN consider moving to Mullvad! I really loved their service but ended up moving to Proton because I use all their services.

subtext,

I was on Mullvad before but moved to proton when Mullvad stopped offering port forwarding :/

juli,

They did what?

Mullvad was working incredibly well with port forwarding. Thatbwas their selling point compared to proton. Wow 😅

subtext,

Yeah they ended forwarded ports on 2023-07-01. I was pretty sad when they did so and I had to move because I loved what they were doing and was extremely happy with my subscription.

juli, (edited )

Doesn’t sound too good tbo. Let’s hope ipfs becomes more useable/accessible over the next years

derin,
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

Ah, you’re right - that is very annoying.

juli,

really? “Very” annoying? :D I see the ads as well but I only see ads for the higher tear and not really often. I wouldn’t call it “very” annoying

derin, (edited )
@derin@lemmy.beru.co avatar

Sorry, I don’t use proton mail. It sounds annoying, but please understand that I am not talking from the perspective of a person who uses the service and is directly affected by them.

Fizz,
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

I pay for the subscription and if I didn’t I do not mind free services asking for money. If you are giving me a free service and not data mining me then you have every right to nag me.

Gmail litterally puts ads in your inbox that look like emails so I doubt any service is gonna be worse than that.

verysoft,

Yeah if you don't pay its fine, but if you have mail plus, they will have pop ups advertising premium. Once you get premium? They start advertising family!

pathief, (edited )
@pathief@lemmy.world avatar

I have premium and I have received emails regarding the family plan, not popups. And honestly I want those emails because the family is a fantastic value proposition. Too bad you only get 3 custom domains to share with 5 other people, that is really not enough :/

If they ever change it to at least a domain per person I want them to email me about it.

verysoft,

Emails, opt-in are fine yeah. I don't mind the little Special offer button at the top either, it's just the pop-up when I'm just trying to check my mails that is really intrusive.

straypet,

I have the paid version and have never seen a popup advertising upgrades.

JSens1998,

Yeah, GMail literally pisses me off for that exact reason.

ComradeKhoumrag,
@ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub avatar

Gmail has far worse ads that crawl your inbox. A free service asking me to pay for hosting isn’t the end of the world

verysoft, (edited )

And the sewer is filled with literal shit, it doesn't make a complaint over a pop-up ad on a paid tier any less valid. Get ya whataboutism out of here!

Creat,

They have some shady (or at least questionable) enough actions in their past, some even covered by mainstream media, that made me dismiss them as an option. I went with the German hosted mailbox.org instead. Swiss law (where proton is hosted) is actually quite a bit less protective of privacy than EU/German law, or maybe just protected in other ways. The international reputation of privacy protecting character of Swiss law seems to be outdated?

Just to be clear, I can’t remember exactly what the specific events were that caused me to reconsider back when I switched years ago. When I just did some quick (!) searches just now, I found statements that they would only record ip addresses in “extreme criminal cases”, but examples include cases of trespassing and property damage. Not exactly child molesters and serial killers (example source). I also understand that the (Swiss) laws relevant to them probably forced them to, but at the very least that seems dishonest or misleading advertising.

juli, in The CEO of PROTON answers YOUR questions! Drive, Linux support, Photos, features, and a lot more!

It’s an interesting and linux centric video about proton

ChojinDSL, in Considering Gentoo
@ChojinDSL@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Gentoo is really great if you want to learn a lot about Linux really fast. Back when I still used it, the documentation was second to none.

kawa, in Super Productivity Keyboard Shortcuts on KDE
@kawa@reddeet.com avatar

You need to add a shortcut to launch Linkedin, the ultimate productivity move.

mlg, in Zorin OS 17 Has Arrived
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

mfw when entire distros are advertising UI features of gnome that came standard on every DE like 15+ years ago, including gnome.

Seriously, Compiz is from 2006.

jeremias,
@jeremias@social.jears.at avatar

Also I find their Zorin OS Pro offer a bit scummy. Now the themes do look nice, but few would spend 50$ for a few themes. So they advertise having 5000$ worth of professional creative alternatives bundled. In screenshots you’ll then see Kdenlive, Blender and Inkscape. I don’t know what to think about the fact they want 50$ for bundling a few themes and free software. If they had just kept the stupid 5000$ part out I would have been fine with it, professional support can be great for people switching over from windows, but this seems a bit scummy to me.

spaphy, in Zorin OS 17 Has Arrived

More people should start charging for their work and actually staffing security. I like zorin just for the fact that I have expectations for items I pay for where things that are free I can’t really hold accountable.

I know that’s antiFOSS but I’m somewhere in the middle lately. I want to pay for quality but still be able to tinker with it.

Squid,

A lot of free and open source products are in fact funded through grants or corpates

kuberoot,

That’s not exactly anti-FOSS, to my understanding, since the “free” part refers to freedom. As long as after you pay you are free to use the software as you want and get access to the source code, I think it might still count as FOSS? And then, of course, there’s the option of paid support on free (of charge) software, though I think recent events might suggest that’s not really sustainable.

zagaberoo,

What do you mean? Payment isn’t anti-FOSS at all, it’s just a lot harder to make money when the source is libre.

spaphy,

I’m glad you think so. I remember Richard stallman banging on a bongo singing that charging for software is greed.

I just want people to have enough incentives for their time that things are safe and the workers paid properly. I wish more open source devs got paid.

mfat, in Fedora Asahi Remix Officially Released for Apple Silicon Macs

I mean this is what a proper distro loooks like. Tailoring another distro for a true, specific purpose. Kudos to the team.

vanderbilt,
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

Yes, it’s not just a DE and default package set but actual system improvements other distros aren’t offering. Kudos to the Asahi team for making this possible!

satanmat, in Considering Gentoo

Please log what you do? Please?

I’ve got an older iMac intel and mulling what to use now that it is no longer getting updates

dylanmorgan,

Will do!

jayrhacker, in What's an elegant way of automatically backing up the contents of a large drive to multiple smaller drives that add up to the capacity of the large drive?

ZFS will let you setup a RAID like set of small volumes which mirror one larger volume, it takes some setup, but that's the most "elegant" solution in that once it's configured you only need to touch it when you add a volume to the system and it's just a mounted filesystem that you use.

Does not solve the off-site problem, one fire and it's all gone.

lemmyvore,

It would also require all the secondary drives to be connected at all times, wouldn’t it?

ryannathans, in Super weird error, what's happening?

Read the messages on the screen. It’s telling you how to check the logs for the error

cadekat, in Considering Gentoo

You’ll need to be a bit more specific about the iMac. What year is it?

If it’s pre-2017, I’d expect some difficulty with the WiFi. If it’s newer, you might have luck with wiki.t2linux.org/distributions/…/installation/ . I haven’t followed that guide, so YMMV.

dylanmorgan,

It’s a 2015 Retina 27”.

I’m fine rocking Ethernet for the purposes of this experiment.

cadekat,

Go for it then! Gentoo is a blast (if you enjoy this sort of thing) and is surprisingly stable once you get it set up.

One tip, before I forget, is to save your firmware from MacOS before wiping the drive. Unfortunately I don’t remember where it’s located, and no longer have access to try and find it 😅

just_another_person,

You can easily add Wifi with a USB dongle anyway. Hardly a hurdle.

GnomeComedy, in What's an elegant way of automatically backing up the contents of a large drive to multiple smaller drives that add up to the capacity of the large drive?

Don’t become so concerned with if you could, that you overlook if you should.

I would buy a larger drive.

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

That would probably be the most elegant solution overall and I appreciate the suggestion, but a new drive costs money that I don’t currently have an abundance of and I already have empty drives that aren’t being used, which I had accumulated over time and had already paid for ages ago. If I’m being honest, the reason I want to do it this way is because I don’t really see the value of using a brand new drive for an offline backup of personal data where the drive will be plugged in at best once a month before being stored in a drawer. If I buy a brand new drive I’d rather actually use it as part of the active storage in my server and keep it running to get the most utility out of it.

Psythik, (edited ) in Cool fancy programs?

Not a Linux app but I’m willing to bet that you’d love windows93.net.

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