Hibernation or suspend? 2 different things. For hibernation you need a swap space at least the size of your RAM, and then the laptop is powered off after this.
For suspend, in your dmesg, see if you have:
ACPI: PM: (supports S0 S3 S4 S5)
if you have S3 your laptop should lost only a few percent.
do a:
cat /sys/power/mem_sleep
what does it says?
New CPU/BIOS/PC/Laptop only support something called “s0 idle” meaning it is like a cellphone, everything is running, and each drivers/components/os should enter low power themselves, if they do not, well, your battery is draining.
S3 means “suspend to RAM”, only RAM is powered and everything else is off, your laptop can stay like this for days. I don’t know who decided that this is bad and your laptop should be like your cellphone, always running?!?
Modern Fedora doesn’t enable swap by default and configures zram instead. Of course, you can’t hibernate to zram, so getting basic hibernation to work involves either disabling zram and configuring swap, or using callbacks to temporarily disable zram and enable swap right before suspending.
In the tint2 docs do a ctrl-f for ‘icon’ — does any of that look like it could be of any use to you? I am not sure I understand the issue but maybe this:
launcher_icon_theme = name_of_theme : (Optional) Uses the specified icon theme to display shortcut icons. Note that tint2 will detect and use the icon theme of your desktop if you have an XSETTINGS manager running (which you probably do), unless launcher_icon_theme_override = 1.
launcher_icon_theme_override = boolean (0 or 1) : Whether launcher_icon_theme overrides the value obtained from the XSETTINGS manager. (since 0.12)
If not try searching for ‘icon’ in the rest of the repo, issues etc.
Here is some troubleshooting ideas I have. Do any of them make any difference whatsoever
Using a very generic, well supported icon theme with no customization. Is the problem that tint2 isn’t picking up any icon theme or it just isn’t picking up these icons? If not picking up any icons, then what icons is it using?
create a fresh user on system with all default settings and see if anything is different? And if you have done system level customizations you could even try a fresh system liveboot/VM but that is a lot of work to be fair.
change your xfce4-appearance and xfwm-settings themes
Do you install icon themes for the user or the system? Try the other way does it make a difference?
I am using latest stable xfce4 (1.18 I think) with tint2 for task list and xfce4-panel for workspace switcher miniature view. From what I’ve noticed, the icons in both are always the same between the two of them. Tbh in general I have found changing icon themes very annoying and inconsistent across the system with some applications and tray items being resistant. Like firefox developer I find is impervious to icon themes. Do you have the issue with all applications including very well-supported ones like thunar or mousepad?
There is a command called gtk-update-icon-cache/gtk4-update-icon-cache but I don’t know if it would help.
So I set the theme to Papirus, which came pre-installed. Most icons are ok I think, but I am still missing icons in tint2 for Slack, Freetube, and Firetools. I get a generic window icon.
The kitty terminal icon in the tint2 panel is also different from the Papirus theme icon.
Tried uninstalling the icon theme and reinstalling following the instruction on github (installed to root), but no dice.
I admit I find icons under xfce4 to be very mysterious. There are all kinds of weird behaviours I can’t explain.
However I am not the only one. There are lots of threads about the “generic icon” problem, for example: Window buttons not showing the proper icon which might have something useful for you.
Kitty has specific instructions for its icon. I don’t mind the kitty icon so I never changed it.
Is the overall problems you are facing different in tint2 than in the xfce panel? if you open them both up is one able to access the correct icons and the other isn’t? I’m out of ideas in either case but it would at least clarify if the problem has anything to do with tint2 or is a general icon thing. If its a general icon thing you’re in luck because there a lot broader resources. If it’s a tint2 problem then you are stuck trying to figure out why.
Controversial, but when it comes to hibernating the system, it actually is.
Unfortunately Windows suffers from the s0ix power consumption bugs that’ll drain your battery faster than Linux does, so neither is a very good experience. The current state of modern PC suspend behaviour is just rather terrible.
Not spesifically a tool to put on a USB stick, but Ventoy is worth checking. I’ve had a bit mixed results with it on older hardware but when it works it’s pretty easy to manage your carry-on-tools.
Ubuntu is nice. Apt/DEB works as they should. Some default apps, mostly browsers, are snaps now, but this does not bother you at all. You were getting them from your distro anyway.
Flatpak and AppImages work just fine if you need them.
The Ubuntu desktop (any flavour) just works. Others are different, but nothing is bad about Ubuntu.
Ubuntu is trying new things, proprietary to their ecosystem, e.g. Unity or snap. On the big picture, those are experiment. Ubuntu is still Linux.
The community reaction to snap is overblown. So Canonical developed something you don’t like? Ignore it. This has mostly been a waste of time for them.
(Yes, maybe that dev time would be better spent on flatpak or open-source apps. But that’s their time. I’m not paying Ubuntu developers, so can I really complain?)
Well, I’d file this as innovation. Innovation is trying and failing. It’s an experiment. And I’m okay with this.
Is it wasteful to have KDE and Gnome? Why don’t they give up and merge with each other? Did we really need systemd? Or docker? And why Wayland when every single distro is on X and every single application is on X?
Ubuntu started as a Gnome-based distribution and it is was better than the competition on the desktop at the time. Or good enough. It got popular.
Personally, I wasn’t a big fan of Unity or Gnome 3, but it worked. I found snap totally weird and against how things should be on a Linux system. But snap updates (while still annoying) have solved problems with deb-based updates of browser (“Quit all running firefox or you’ll experience problems”).
Maybe I’d like Debian more. After all I came from Debian to Ubuntu. But it’s not worth to make a fuzz.
I don’t think it’s wasteful to have both KDE and Gnome. It’s healthy competition and as you say, innovation.
However the job of a distribution is to gather upstream software into a meaningful OS, and rewriting everything that should be an upstream software shared with other distributions is a distraction.
So Unity was unnecessary “not invented here” syndrome. Just like Snap is.
This is looking really promising! Pipewire already has pretty much solved audio issues (at least for me) entirely and now with HDR on the cusp, the year of the Linux desktop is nigh! Barring some Adobe BS and CAD stuff, there really isn’t much left
There is no reason to “hate” Ubuntu but there are better choices.
What are those better choices then (for those who currently use the non-LTS Ubuntu releases and don’t want to move to rolling releases or LTS-only releases)?
Never touching Fedora again. It’s a corporate distribution. As much as people might say otherwise redhat has a lot of pull over it. Look at the lawyers getting involved over pulling out the codecs.
Your loss, it’s a great distribution and if you spent even a couple of minutes in our forums you’d see that the RedHat pull is due to them actually collaborating and being and active part in the community.
I was an Ubuntu person for a long time, and when reading criticism about the inability to upgrade versions, I realized that had been my entire experience. I decided to give a rolling release a chance, and it’s been amazing.
I use arch(installer)btw. 🐧 AURs are pretty ingenuous, which is just pulling and compiling a git. Maybe a little less secure, but look at what happened to the snap store this year.
If you want to try a rolling release but didn’t want to use Arch, there’s always Fedora, & OpenSuSE Tumbleweed.
Outside of that, for non Ubuntu distros you could do OpenSuSE regular, or for true LTS use Rocky. Or take the red pill and go with Hannah Montana’s Linux.
I still think Ubuntu is the best option (particularly if you want to use the non-LTS releases)
Having said that I do hate snaps and also dislike flatpaks. So what I do is just use the Firefox deb package from the PPA and the chromium package from Linux Mint. Oh, and I have actually replaced ubuntu-advantage-tools with a no-op dummy package.
It’s pitched as a open source operation system, yet the snap store is closed source and vendor locked, one of the reasons some of us use Liniux is because we prefer open source (and there are rational justifications for that).
Hate is a strong word, but there is legitimate criticism, I also think the closed source nature of snap led to the fact that it has no volunteers and that eventually caused malware to appear on the snap store multiple time, it never happened on flathub as far as i know.
Today for beginner i think opensuse and linux mint are better.
Regarding debian having old packages , i use nix but it is fairly immature, flathub should also work.
I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but…
There is no “supposed to” when it comes to distro preferences. Use whatever you like, other people’s opinions do not dictate your behavior. If Ubuntu works for you, use that. If anything, that’s the freedom of FOSS. You can take other people’s views in to account when choosing a distro, but in the end it is your decision. I dislike Ubuntu for a few reasons, but I don’t get to dictate to anyone else what they use and why.
If you like rolling release, you could try Debian sid/unstable. I hear it’s quite stable and reliable and, of course, isn’t Ubuntu.
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