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luthis, (edited ) in Why does the new version of Kubuntu take longer to start the wifi connection?

systemd-analyze plot > boottimes.svg

Open the SVG and have a look at what’s happening during boot.

journalctl -b will give you some more info too. If you’re using grub to boot (probably in /boot/grub/grub.cfg), you can change the loglevel and add the udev option to get a bunch more info. Helped me with a random issue recently. Here’s mine for an example:


<span style="color:#323232;">### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
</span><span style="color:#323232;">menuentry 'Arch Linux' --class arch --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-a96b3354-70dd-45ed-8c6c-95171e9f1e82' {
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	load_video
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	set gfxpayload=keep
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	insmod gzio
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	insmod part_gpt
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	insmod ext2
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root a96b3354-70dd-45ed-8c6c-95171e9f1e82
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	echo	'Loading Linux linux ...'
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	linux	/boot/vmlinuz-linux root=UUID=a96b3354-70dd-45ed-8c6c-95171e9f1e82 rw  loglevel=3 udev.log-priority=debug 
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	echo	'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
</span><span style="color:#323232;">	initrd	/boot/amd-ucode.img /boot/initramfs-linux.img
</span><span style="color:#323232;">}
</span>
mnmalst,

FYI: /etc/grub.d/10_linux should not be edited directly for permanent changes since those changes get replaced when grub is updated.

Use /etc/default/grub for permanent changes.

luthis,

True, but for this purpose it’s totally fine.

There’s also a big disclaimer at the top of the file:

cat grub.cfg

DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE

It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates

from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub

Wording could probably be less DOOM SHALL BEFALL YE, as long as you aren’t messing around and just adding logging it’s not an issue.

More info on grub here: wiki.archlinux.org/title/GRUB

mnmalst,

Indeed, just wanted to make sure people are aware. :)

Cheers

leo85811nardo,

If you know what you are doing, type “yes do as I say”

luthis,

That’s the best part about Linux. You’re allowed to do anything even when it’s definitely a bad idea.

brunofin, (edited ) in wayland, not even once

Boycott you instead, dinosaur.

Isn’t Linux about freedom? Fucking pick a distro that uses X11 you like and keep X11, or build your own or some crap like that.

safefel556,

Don’t worry the red hat moderators will boycott me by issuing a ban

brunofin,

Did you really wake up so early this morning and chose violence?

Dude it’s Friday. Leave us alone and go be happy.

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  • safefel556,

    Still not a reason to ban anyone. They openly censor opposing opinions and you are literally advocating this.

    hunger,
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    Removing dump stuff to keep a community relevant, on topic and with a good signal to noise ratio is not censorship. Claiming so is just dumb.

    safefel556,

    What I post is relevant and on-topic and you have outed yourself as an actual paid shill. I’ll give you a tip, don’t advocate for censorship so openly. Even if you do, there are discreet ways to do so.

    breadsmasher,
    @breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

    Ah you got him! The Elders of Wayland are paying this dude to shill wayland on a tiny lemmy community /s

    You should get offline and go touch grass. you are losing touch with reality

    safefel556,

    Wherever you say, shill

    breadsmasher,
    @breadsmasher@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t believe you even know what a “shill” is

    hunger,
    @hunger@programming.dev avatar

    Censorship is about you being limited in the actions you can take to express yourself. It is not about cushioning you from the consequences of those actions from the people around you.

    You obviously were allowed to take action: The contents was apparent upon on a forum and here as well. People reacted to your actions: Admins removed your contents and blocked you and I am telling you that your understanding of wayland as well as politics is limited.

    Deal with it.

    velox_vulnus, in wayland, not even once

    I’m not an expert on Wayland vs Xorg, but don’t you think it is unfair to not let a new protcol be given some time to improve?

    safefel556,

    It had 15 years to improve. You could write a new operating system in that time.

    anyhow2503,

    It already has improved. You’re just very ignorant in your idealism. I’ve used it at home and for work for at least 6 years now and the problems have honestly been way less than expected for an X replacement. Screensharing was probably the biggest hurdle initially, but even that has worked for quite some time now. The last remaining issues are pretty much down to individual applications.

    You could not write an operating system even remotely comparable to Linux in that time with the ressources the Wayland devs had available.

    HumanPenguin, (edited )
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    LOL x11 was created in 1984. I started with it in 1994. By 2000 it was still a long long way from perfect. Heck that is why wayland x12 is created. Because x11 has some old fasioned ideas that really do not fit so well today.

    As for making an OS in that time. Well microsoft seems to have taken way longer then 15 years. And few would ever say they are perfect.

    Honestly I am far from a wayland fan. I do not consider it a valid replacement for x11 yet. I also use Nvidia. But it is and will get there. Likly just in time for folks to start wanting a replacement. That is sorta how this stuff goes in the FOSS Operating system development cycle.

    jimmy90, in State of the Nvidia open source driver in late 2023?

    this guys says it’s all good

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f4B8uIPqcE

    Pantherina,

    No, he sais the nuveau drivers dont work, and the proprietary drivers work well.

    KISSmyOS, (edited ) in wayland, not even once

    Isn’t it weird what people get worked up about?
    Just keep using X11 with twm, SysV init, LILO and Alsa on your 32bit BIOS IBM Thinkpad.
    It all still works, and YOU can keep it maintained yourself, that’s the beauty of FOSS.

    _cnt0, in wayland, not even once

    Doesn’t it get tiring to create new accounts only to post the same stuff time and time again, only to get it downvoted, removed, and banned time and time again? What do you get out of it? Do you masturbate to the comment sections?

    nobloat, (edited ) in wayland, not even once

    Had me at “References >> 5 years old Chris Titus Tech YouTube video”

    akash_rawal, in Copy this code and paste it in the CLI. And no, it's not a forkbomb.

    imgur.com/8p7oPbp

    spoilerIt’s fine guys, I ran it in a VM with no networking.

    hunger, in wayland, not even once
    @hunger@programming.dev avatar

    Yes, wayland by design does not let random applications grab events intended for other applications nor does it let random applications take screenshots at any point in time showing other applications screens. This requires applications to do screen sharing differently, and it indeed breaks random applications sending events to random other applications. That is basically all you wail about and an absolutely necessary property of any sensible system and it is very embarrassing that it took so long to get this.

    Grass, in Why does the new version of Kubuntu take longer to start the wifi connection?

    You could probably fix this with some troubleshooting. That’s all I ever did on Ubuntu and it’s derivatives.

    OsrsNeedsF2P, (edited ) in Can someone ELI5 why some apps need to support X11/wayland?

    In the case of Waydroid, it depends on features only available in Wayland; simple as that.

    There are some applications (like autoclickers) that depend on features only available in X, as well (mainly because they directly ask X to do something)

    backhdlp, in 10 YouTube Channels Linux Users Should Explore
    @backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    TL;DR:

    1. The Linux Cast
    2. The Linux Experiment
    3. Veronica Explains
    4. DistroTube
    5. TechHut
    6. Chris Titus Tech
    7. Nicco Loves Linux
    8. Gardiner Bryant
    9. Learn Linux TV
    10. InfinitelyGalactic
    theshatterstone54, (edited ) in wayland, not even once

    This OUTDATED article gets posted all the time. The full story is the guy is a massive FreeBSD fan so he is trying to convince more people to keep on using Xorg because he wants to make sure it isn’t abandoned. Reason for that being that Wayland is built with Linux in mind and would not work under FreeBSD without a lot of effort bwing put in as it uses some Linux-specific components or libraries.

    Edit: Decided to write a response because I’m tired of this ancient and incorrect article being reposted. Please read it, correct any mistakes in the comments, etc. Thank you.

    wetferret, (edited ) in Copy this code and paste it in the CLI. And no, it's not a forkbomb.
    @wetferret@lemmy.world avatar

    If you want to run some less low-level code to explore the kinds of sounds that code like this can create, I wrote a python applet that lets you explore random and custom functions interactively. It comes with several presets for interesting functions I’ve discovered on various websites.

    YouTube video

    source code

    rah, in wayland, not even once

    Ignorant fool.

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