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IsoKiero, in Any experience with teaching kids Linux?

My sons are in that age bracket and when they requested a laptops for themselves (older sister got one for school stuff) I “borrowed” decommissioned thinkpads from work, threw empty ssd’s on them and gave computers to boys with linux mint installer on usb-stick. Younger one got it running in couple of hours without any help and is actively learning on how to use the thing, yesterday he told me how he had learned to open software using keyboard shortcuts and in general is interested about the tinkering aspect of things. Older one has a bit more pragmatic approach, he got the installation done as well but he’s not interested about the computer itself as it’s just a tool to listen to a music, look up for tutorials for his other interests and things like that.

Both cases are of course equally valid and I’m just happy that they are willing to learn things beyond just pushing the buttons. But I’m also (secretly) happy that my youngest shares my interests and he’s been doing simple games with scratch and in general shows interest on how the computers, networking and other stuff actually works.

Dotdev, in Linux Mint XCFE -> Gnome?
@Dotdev@programming.dev avatar

It’s fine for the most part. Just keyboard shortcuts won’t work in default and theming is slightly difficult. You have add extensions to gnome to increase functionality.

wurosh,

Truth be told, once I made myself live without extensions for a week, I realized I never needed them in the first place. Gnome has a way of making you discover a slightly different way of doing the same thing that in hindsight just works better with the overall system than an extension would.

But to each their own…

Sentau,

With something like dash to dock or dash to panel, you get extra functionality while still retaining the stock workflow of gnome. I myself use near vanilla gnome with dash to dock, clipboard indicator and gsconnect. Out of those only dash to dock modifies the workflow but in a way that supplements the stock workflow.

corship, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

Nvidia?

More like:

Nie-wieder!

cows_are_underrated,

AMD beste.

Uiop,

ha! german…

g7s,

Guter

bizdelnick, in Linux Mint XCFE -> Gnome?

Why do you ask? Install it as a second DE and give it a try. You can alvays switch back if you don’t like it.

MigratingtoLemmy, in Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is

Anybody with experience with Cagebreak? I like ratpoison but maybe not having to port a lot of configuration by hand would be nice

RmDebArc_5, in Linux Mint XCFE -> Gnome?
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

It should work on Mint as well, but the theming may be off you will probably have to redo Icons and such. Just FYI, XFCE can totally look like Gnome (look at rhino Linux) if you theme it. You may consider installing the SaveDesktop app and redoing your XFCE setup (the unixporn community has some great inspiration)

TangledHyphae, (edited ) in Just install EndeavorOS lol

So if someone starts using EndeavorOS daily, can they claim to be an arch user? Edit: I’m now wiping my laptop clean and using it as my daily driver from now on. This is probably my first experience with Plasma, and I am loving it way more than gnome so far.

Pantherina,

Yup my best Plasma experience was on Manjaro, Arch based KDE is just good. But actually modern KDE at all is just good, so no Kubuntu or damn MXLinux XD

TangledHyphae,

Oh my God the more I use it the more amazing it is already. The customization in the Plasma appearance settings is exactly what I’ve missed this whole time. I feel like I’ve wasted all these years now. Better late than never I s’pose.

Pantherina,

Hahahaha. I tried out Mint once, crashed randomly so no Mint. Then Manjaro and it was great but said to be shady. So MX Linux which was also great but software was outdated. Then KDENeon and Kubuntu, broke both, then Fedora KDE, broke that too.

Now I am on Fedora Kinoite, KDE is all user folders so everything is still customizable.

You may want to disable file indexing as its really weird and crashy. For security also CUPS and bluetooth, no GUI switches poorly

TangledHyphae, (edited )

I’ve done a lot of bluetooth work and know how terrible it is as a protocol, but do you see any issues with only using it for a speaker/earphone, assuming no other devices even within a valid proximity of the transceiver? If nothing can hijack or manipulate or listen to the session, is it that insecure? I disable it and use wired earbuds when I’m mobile for that reason.

Pantherina,

You can be tracked as you glow like a flashlight in the dark. But its not insecure I guess, but dont use it for keyboard to be sure.

TangledHyphae,

I’m a ham radio guy, so I’m licensed by the FCC to transmit 1500 watts in the ham bands. Talk about a flashlight glowing. It’s on my todo list to make a good antenna for directional finding of signals.

g7s,

Yeah, but don’t tell other arch users you are using EndavorOS… jk!

iAvicenna, in Just install EndeavorOS lol
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

Well there is always Scientific Linux if arch doesn’t quite cut it

datendefekt, in Just install EndeavorOS lol
@datendefekt@lemmy.ml avatar

I’d just recommend Fedora.

I use Fedora BTW.

Pantherina,

Same. Kinoite-main from ublue, works out of the box

jeremyparker,

Oh you mean the IBM Enterprise Linux upstream? Is that ok to use on a desktop computer?

(I’m just kidding, Fedora’s great.)

TheGrandNagus, in Linux Mint XCFE -> Gnome?

I like it, but it’s subjective. Just try it for yourself.

I will say though to try it for a bit longer than just a few minutes. The Gnome workflow is very different to the usual Win95-inspired one pretty much everybody else uses out of the box, but once it “clicks” it’s a joy to use.

SGHFan, in Based KDE 🗿
@SGHFan@lemdro.id avatar

And you can’t get de-crufted Win11 outside Europe! Another win for Plasma!

psud,

You can, but it takes a little effort

mike_wooskey, in Navigating around in your shell
@mike_wooskey@lemmy.d.thewooskeys.com avatar

Thanks for these tips.

YourMomsTrashman, in Spending a few days with Hyprland made me realize how awesome Gnome is
@YourMomsTrashman@lemmy.world avatar

After going back and forth from Gnome and more traditional DE’s, the latest Cinnamon scratched this itch for me. Shoutouts to the Mint team as well 👍

Fecundpossum, in Linux Mint XCFE -> Gnome?

I love Linux Mint, and always used cinnamon. I Loath the gnome experience, and XFCE has always struck me as too old feeling and sparse. Currently I use EndeavourOS with KDE Plasma and I couldn’t be happier.

If you’d like to try out KDE but don’t want to move away from a more stable experience to an Arch based distro, I can recommend MX Linux. It’s based on Debian stable instead of Ubuntu, and has a KDE plasma spin.

radioactiveradio, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

Is there an easier way to install Arch? I know there’s Archinstall but my dumbass messed that up somehow.

hex,

I used endeavourOS and it was super straightforward

g7s,

When you boot up the arch iso, you can use a script called arch-install

Bene7rddso,

I know there’s Archinstall but my dumbass messed that up somehow.

CalicoJack,

EndeavourOS is it. It’s basically a better version of archinstall, especially if you’re planning to install a DE.

Pantherina,

EndeavorOS or other. Artix maybe? But never used any of those

cows_are_underrated,

Archintstall sometimes produces problems(at least I had problems with it). Make sure that you have the current iso version of arch on your stick and try again.

radioactiveradio,

The problem I was facing was manually creating partitions. Should I use Gparted to make them first and then use archinstall, or does it not work with manual partitions?

cows_are_underrated,

It should work with both ways. First time I did them with archinstall(but didn’t like that it created a separate partition for my home directory). Second time I manually partitioned my drive and then let archintstall use that.

gamma,
@gamma@programming.dev avatar

If you use EndeavourOS, know that you shouldn’t ask for support on the Arch forums, its a policy they have.

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