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tkn, in "Help me choose my first distro" and other questions for beginners
@tkn@startrek.website avatar

On the matter of Ubuntu I think the issues with the OS need to be clarified. From the positive perspective, it is easy to use and just works. From the negative side, it’s become more and more bespoke over time. The Snaps being proprietary and a lot of work in the terminal to activate functions enjoyed out-of-the-box by almost all other distros is very unfriendly. And, I would suggest there are numerous other distros that “just work” but without Ubuntu’s baggage. Mint, Pop_OS!, and Fedora are all easy to install, setup, and use. Even KDE’s Neon is dirt simple to install and use and offers a great KDE experience, if you like that.

That said, however, I believe that Mint is the best distro for new users, though Fedora and Pop are close behind.

wfh,

Thanks for this great writeup about what makes Ubuntu its own thing rather than standard.

yote_zip, in Arch on semi-critical pc? (Also EndeavourOS vs raw Arch?)
@yote_zip@pawb.social avatar

Arch should be fine for university stuff. The main problem with Arch is not Arch itself, but all the software it tracks being very fresh. You’ll be pulling updates as they come down the line, and that may result in temporary bugs or day-to-day workflow changes - caused by the software developers themselves. I don’t think an Arch system is unusually unstable or prone to breaking, but last year they did brick everyone’s GRUB loaders by pushing an update too early (post-mortem here). It’s up to you, but if you want to err on the side of system/software stability I would go for Mint/OpenSUSE Tumbleweed/Debian.

I don’t have any practical experience with EndeavourOS but TMK it’s just preconfigured Arch and it uses the default repos, so that sounds good to me. Vanilla Arch is not inherently better or worse, it’s just a more minimal starting point.

rattking, (edited ) in The Linux Kernel Preparing To Drop Infrastructure For Old & Obsolete Graphics Drivers - Phoronix
@rattking@lemmy.ml avatar

01:04.0 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200eW WPCM450 (rev 0a)

Oh no! My 10ish year old supermicro server has a Matrix MGA built in to the motherboard and integrated with the ipmi OOB management system. I’m sure I can add in a newer video card but I assume the impi won’t be able to redirect video from it. :'(

Edit: hang on… crisis averted I think, my system is using the mgag200 driver and it doesn’t look like that one is being removed.

drwankingstein, (edited ) in Any experience with teaching kids Linux?

I had good luck walking my nephew through installing and setting up arch. Great introduction into linux, he was 13 but thats close enough to the given range

ReversalHatchery, in Just read Madaidans Insecurities. Do you know how much is still relevant?

“This connection is untrusted” “SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN”

The irony.

Pantherina,

I mean the origin is still legit, so there is no real problem with it, right?

One cannot just register a site as github.com

ReversalHatchery,

I’m not sure if at this point the browser verifies whether the cert is even legit for github.com

Strit,
@Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

It uses the github cert, but that is not set to use the github.io subpages that start with www.

KingThrillgore, in Just install EndeavorOS lol
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

archinstall

Petri3136,

15 minutes from booting the ISO to a Plasma installation is probably average. There are probably people who’ve done speed runs in 5 minutes. archinstall has gotten so good.

java, in Just install EndeavorOS lol

Is this from 2010?

authed, in But Windows 11 is so good!!11!1!

wish you could install only security updates

LUHG_HANI,
@LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world avatar

Long term service branch exists on 10.

maccentric,

Only for Enterprise tho

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

You can delay all other updates with the group policy editor. You can disable preview builds and you and delay quality updates by 30 days and delay feature updates by 365 days. The bugs are always worked out by then.

Holzkohlen,

OR they could stop shipping broken updates for their $100 ad-infested operating system. Just a a thought.

Karyoplasma,

My tinfoil hat theory is that they ship broken updates on purpose to feign how fast and hard they work on fixing them. See, customers, we really care!

authed,

thats good but Im also worried about the useless changes that they make… so after 365 days I would start getting constant useless updates anyways

EmperorHenry,
@EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Feature updates are necessary after a while. There’s SOME important stuff in there. And if you wait a whole year before installing the new one, all the bugs will be fixed by then

avidamoeba, (edited ) in The Linux Kernel Preparing To Drop Infrastructure For Old & Obsolete Graphics Drivers - Phoronix
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

So much for the legendary hardware support of Linux!

Edit: Forgot “/s”, but look at this lively discussion!

Lettuceeatlettuce,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

Lol you haven’t upgraded your GPU since the late 90’s?

db2,

You know there’s a whole hobby of keeping older hardware running, right?

Lettuceeatlettuce, (edited )
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

You know that you can use older versions of the Linux kernel, right?

db2,

You know security vulnerabilities are a thing, right?

patatahooligan,
@patatahooligan@lemmy.world avatar

Linux 6.1 will be maintained for another 10 years by the CIP. The hardware in question will be almost 40 years old at that point. I don’t have a violin small enough for users losing free support after 40 years from maintainers who most likely don’t even own the same hardware to test on…

interdimensionalmeme,

On the other hand, they were probably unchanged for decades. Did anything really change, or is this just a case of we need to remove 500k lines of code, what is most useless ? Let’s cut that.

In other words, removed because it’s a KPI to remove lines, and this makes number go up.

saigot, (edited )

So if it’s been unchanged for decades then you can just add it yourself and recompile the kernel. Elsewhere you argue that you can’t just add old drivers to a newer kernel, which implies these drivers require some nontrivial amount of maintaince. Which is it.

patatahooligan,
@patatahooligan@lemmy.world avatar

Keeping code around isn’t free. Interfaces change, regressions pop up. You have to occasionally put in work just to keep it in a working state. Usually in cases like this there are discussions on the mailing list about who is going to maintain them and nobody volunteers. You can do that if you’re so passionate about keeping these drivers around.

interdimensionalmeme,

They were fine all this time, what changed suddenly ? I bet it’s the security nerds stirring shit, making it all a liability and easier deleted than fixed.

radioactiveradio, (edited )

You know there’s nothing to gain by hacking those old systems, right?

Lettuceeatlettuce,
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

I know what you mean, I’m so pissed that my 1978 Space Invaders arcade machine doesn’t even support WiFi-6.

BeardedGingerWonder,

Fuckin a

Bitrot,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

If only they contributed to the kernel maintenance workload.

axum,
@axum@kbin.social avatar

You're free to use legacy kernels or run your own fork.

demonsword, (edited )
@demonsword@lemmy.world avatar

I doubt any hardware 25+ years can even run a modern vanilla linux kernel, you’d have to compile it yourself with some serious customization for it even work

november, in would it be illegal to download Ubuntu on a Chromebook?
@november@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Stop feeding the troll…

01adrianrdgz,
@01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar

why would I be a troll? I’m sorry, but I’m just saving money for a Chromebook, they are cheap and nice and I can use them for Python!!

november,
@november@iusearchlinux.fyi avatar

Maybe I have mistaken you for a troll, but your behavior and recent posts on this community say otherwise as they are low-effort and look like bait. Asking questions is always a good thing, I don’t want to discourage you from that. Though you should keep the hypothetical, unrealistic ones in your head as they are contributing nothing here and only waste other people’s time.

It seems you are just young and naive judging from your profile picture, so here’s some advice:
Post less, and research/read more before asking anything. It’ll make you grow faster, not only as a developer, but it also teaches you to think things through better and so you can learn things easily in the future. (RTFM anyone?)

01adrianrdgz,
@01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar

ok thank you, I have been visiting Tkinter forums and guides and also how to download Flatpak, and that has been so nice. I’m very sorry for asking a lot but I want to be part of the community!!! n.n And by the way I’m not young, I’m 20 so I have lived a life c:

abuttifulpigeon, in EndeavourOS Ditches Xfce for KDE Plasma with the Galileo Release

Is XFCE still an option for install? I prefer it if I ever go back.

yum13241,

Yes.

Strit, in ISC DHCP Client and Relay End of Maintenance
@Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show avatar

The Arch wiki article already states it’s unmaintained since January 2023. So Arch users have had almost a year to find another solution at this point.

KISSmyOS,

I posted mainly because Debian now seems to force a switch in Unstable and many distros rely on its packages.

RandoCalrandian, in can I be a Free Software advocate but still use non-free software??
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

I mean, it’s not like slavery or murder.

Being pro-FOSS does not mean you are anti proprietary software. There’s plenty of middle ground.

Video games, for example, where the company might not want to open source their server code for plenty of very legitimate reasons.

Mail is a super important utility. For physical mail, it’s a felony for anybody to open it. For digital mail, gmail open, reads, and inserts ads before handing it to you. It’s ok to think some things are important enough to mandate FOSS, and some things not.

Dups, in A symptom of linux past traumas
@Dups@sh.itjust.works avatar

My condolences

TechAdmin, in Package up and transport a linux?

For the OS side a few ways.

  • Clone & then rename+change drivers
  • Ansible/chef
  • NixOS

For home folder side of things a dotfile manager, cloud services, and file sync tool will take care of most things. I use chezmoi for dotfiles & nextcloud for file syncing. Firefox is only cloud synced service I still use for now. I have yet to find any decent sources of information on dotfiles so gonna be stuck going through those stupid things to figure out what you want to sync.

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