Another happy Framework user here. I have 2 first gens in my immediate family and 2 second gens among my friends. All run Ubuntu LTS. No one is complaining. I’ve already replaced my bottom chassis because I destroyed it during a bad mishap. Ordering was easy, the part was inexpensive, the replacement was straightforward. A Dell XPS perhaps feels a bit better made, but then it doesn’t say Made in Taiwan on the bottom so there’s that. 😅
On the other hand System76 is building a new open source desktop environment in a sane programming language… 🤔 If COSMIC desktop turns out great and I end up using it, I’ll probably throw a couple of hundred their way in lieu of buy their laptop.
Thanks for a nice feedback. One more vote for Framework ;)
I don’t use a DE, so this would not make me go with them. Also, I’ll use Arch anyway, not PopOS.
Oh I now remembered that mine developed a problem with one of the USB ports, not a cartridge but the host port. Framework sent me a new board. I replaced it easily and sent the bad one to them.
I find GNOME’s “must be perfect” approach to accepting new code counterintuitive.
One of the largest benefits of having a clean architecture is increased velocity and extensibility. What’s the point in nitpicking over perfection when it takes literally years to merge a feature, arguably one considered basic and essential by today’s standards?
KDE is on the other side of this pendulum, integrating everything and resulting in a disjointed, buggy disaster.
Where’s the middle way? It used to be XFCE. What is it now?
Quality control is important for a project that is going to be supported for long time, and used by many. Slow but steady is a right approach for open source project, IMO.
I definitely get what you mean, and sometimes agree, but tbh I’m glad Gnome is an option for those who want a DE that is uncompromisingly UX-focused and straight up won’t accept changes until they’re damn sure it’ll be production-ready.
And while they’ve been relatively slow in getting adaptive refresh working, they’ve been very quick with some other things. Idk why it took them this long to sort out the cursor occasionally becoming out of sync with displayed content’s refresh rate, but there must be a reason for it.
Gnome was at the forefront with Wayland, PulseAudio, they’ve been the biggest pusher of Portals, pretty much all of their GTK4 apps have been designed to also be compatible with mobile devices. Accessibility features on Gnome are also pretty great for a Linux DE.
As a general rule, I’d say their development process works well, despite there being the occasional holdup.
And while Plasma obviously isn’t nearly as bug-free as Gnome, it’s come a long way since the Plasma 4/early Plasma 5 days. I still don’t feel I can depend on it the same as I could for Gnome or Cinnamon (compositor crashes bringing down all open apps is a big issue in particular - and is finally due to be fixed in Plasma 6), but don’t underestimate their progress — since like 5.15/5.16 they’ve improved leaps and bounds.
And with 6 it looks like they’ve learned from the mistakes of 4 and 5’s launches.
This requires no “AI”, just some simple rule-based automation, at most some algorithmic sorting.
Android (or some custom branded Android versions?) automatically save downloaded files in folders by Pictures, Documents, etc unless you tell them.not to.
Office365 offers the PowerAutomate function, but knowing Microsoft they probably overcomplicated things a bunch. [Edit: obviously this isn’t FLOSS, just a hint at what to look for alternatives to…]
This approach never appealed to me as I want to know where things are rather than where some subroutine thinks it belongs, but I’m certain you will find plenty of software that offers an auto sorting feature.
Looks nice. Is anyone able to tell if I’m going to screw up my KDE install if I try it out? I’ve never tried WM / compositors on KDE that weren’t targeting KDE before.
It should be fine I think. On Linux you can have multiple Desktop Environments installed (ex KDE Plasma & Gnome as well.)
I tried Hyprland a few months ago like this. I had Plasma installed then installed hyprland as well. During login with SDDM you can select which DE to launch.
Edit: On github it says you should install it alone to make sure. I dont know then, maybe it works? I am still new to Linux as well.
After my bios splash, it shows „welcome to grub“ and then switches to the debian start menu for 3 seconds or so, then shows some terminal stuff and then starts kde splash and then login.
Yeah, the reason for this is that sometimes Debian doesn’t enable Plymouth splash screens by default, so you just see the text stuff. It actually annoys me a bit.
Not on my computer at the moment, so I can’t remember the exact packages you might need, but if I recall, they should be plymouth-themes and kde-config-plymouth (so that you can choose the splash screen theme in your system settings). You can also find other themes online, but I forgot the name of that website where all the stuff is. Pling? I think it’s that.
Anyway, once you have the themes installed, you need to sudo edit /etc/default/grub and append “quiet splash” (with the quotes) to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= (“quiet” might already be there).
You can also change the value of GRUB_TIMEOUT= in that file to whatever your preference might be for the duration of grub’s boot menu, but there might be other things you need to adjust in order to hide it completely and still be able to access it if necessary.
After that, run sudo update-grub so that it’s using the new config and choose whichever theme you want in the system settings.
Alternatively, grub-customizer is a GUI app that you can install to do all of the above (which will also update grub when you save your changes). Just don’t touch anything that’s not relevant. Stick to just the duration of the grub boot menu and add the splash parameter. Ignore boot priority, etc.
It should feel less “slow” to start up once all that’s sorted.
Yeah, the reason for this is that sometimes Debian doesn’t enable Plymouth splash screens by default, so you just see the text stuff. It actually annoys me a bit.
I always go through and turn off all the stuff that’s covering up the diagnostic information that I want to see, myself.
Good but slow. Zypper has nice features but for some reason it can only download one package at a time. There is a GitHub issue about this that has been around for years.
That sounds great. The last driver they released fixed Starfield but broke Cyberpunk for me, pretty bad trade. Hopefully this rolls around to my distro soon
I did that, on a vm though. I learned a ton and would not want to miss the experience.
But arch is absolutely not something I would daily drive even if you paid me for it. It’s like driving a car which you have assembled from parts only. It works but you never know it it will start this morning.
I have no idea how much difference there is… debian and ubuntu are not the same, one could argue that ubuntu and mint are very close but still they are different.
Maybe if you don’t touch the AUR, or at least: if you’re really careful with it. But who could resist this tasty, tasty, unstable forbidden fruit of random software?
If you don’t do anything crazy, it will be stable, exactly like any other distro
Tell me you haven’t used a stable distro without telling me you haven’t used a stable distro.
Do you know why Debian, a stable distro, releases noncritical updates every ~2 years? Because they test their packages and make sure grub doesn’t release a faulty update and leave your machine in an unbootable state.
Debian for sure is stable for a server and Arch may not be as stable.
However if we are talking about a home use, Arch is stable enough. And with up to date packages.
I rather use Arch Linux with up to date packages then Debian with 2+ years out dated packages for my daily non-server use.
You’re not taking into account the use case. It’s simplistic to say that “Arch is not stable”. It is and it isn’t, depending on use case.
The same for Debian, I can say it’s outdated, and again, it is and it isn’t, depending on use case.
If you wanna play latest games, use latest softwares and be on the edge of the latest versions, Debian sucks. If you wanna a stable rock solid server, with all packages well tested, well, Arch sucks.
Just don’t be an asshole saying that X is better than Y dismissing the use case.
All I said at the beginning was: time to try Arch Linux.
But some of you can’t live with different opinions and downvoted my comment, as well tried to refute my comment. But, well, I wasn’t even arguing, I was doing a suggestion. So, yeah, do whatever you want, I don’t care
Sorry but you’re oot. People who switch to linux today are complete noobs compared to you and will do a ton of things you consider crazy.
The other distros will accept this or prevent it but arch wont even boot to the DE if you dont follow the wiki to the letter. I had to reaearch some stuff since I didnt get it from just the wiki and still got repeated freezes although I‘m a sysadmin for many years and have two linux servers (one of them for two years) which make no problems at all.
Arch is a pro distro, feel free to prove otherwise.
I get that. But people will take „its a myth that arch is not stable“ out of context. It is absolutely not as stable as any other OS, at least if you use the wiki. I have not known about the script until recently.
I agree that Arch is a pro distro. I do IT tech support, have background with Ubuntu, Mint, Debian, Knoppix, and Fedora and installing Arch was hard mode for me. Would I do it again? Hell yeah. Would I recommend it as a second or third install experience? Nope. Too many distros that are beginner to intermediate friendly. That said, I will forever have a fondness for pacman just because I like the name. I am still working out device drivers and a few smaller details a month later. Also, the wiki is written by someone who doesn’t do good technical writing. It assumes too much back end knowledge. I kept having to follow blog or article posts and still had to sandwich those snippets I got together hoping something worked…and again, I have some background knowledge of Linux already. An absolute beginner would be totally lost.
Glad I am not alone, though I follow unixporn and other communities so was very familiar with the overall sentiments about Arch before diving in. I look forward to when I know a bit more about it. I put it on a laptop I specifically bought to install Linux alongside the existing windows install (LG Gram) so I knew I had nothing to lose and my whole intention was to learn. I would have never installed Arch on a machine I actually need to use at this point. I am lucky that I got as far as I did so quickly. lol.
I literally just stopped using it yesterday but can’t remember why. I also think it had something to do with not being able to copy/paste. I know I also didn’t love that it doesn’t seem to have a memory function, though nor does the app I replaced it with.
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