I wouldn’t use CentOS for private/ desktop stuff personally.
Do you really need its features? Afaik, the “security” features you mentioned are mainly for server use. At least that’s what I have in my mind right now when I researched possible candidates for my home server some time ago.
I think sticking with a “home use” distro would suit you better.
There are a few options as suggestions:
Stay on Kinoite
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There’s barely any configuration drift compared to the mutable Fedora. Therefore, it should be less buggy.
Fedora Atomic KDE gave me the best Plasma experience yet. I often tested KDE (I’m a Gnome guy myself, but here and there hop to KDE for a few months) and on most installs on other distros like Suse/ Workstation/ Debian, it got more and more buggy after a few weeks due to updates and tweaks.
So, bugfixes often didn’t apply to my system, only the default one or the install from the devs.
I find Fedora’s release schedule to be the perfect sweetspot between reliable, stable and up to date.
If you’re really impatient, you can always switch to the nightly builds (on Atomic), which are more bug prone and rolling. Maybe, Plasma will be stable enough before it hits the official image. But you should keep at least one stable image in your bootloader.
Debian and Leap
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Debian “just” got it’s new release and will be stale for the next years. BUT, many of those Plasma 6 bug fixes will be backported to 5.27. Still, many of the QOL-changes are 6-exclusive.
OpenSuse Leap also gives you a great KDE experience and is pretty similar to Debian, both in release schedule and when the last big update hit.
Distrobox
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You can use an Arch/ Tumbleweed container on Debian/ slow release distro to get all the newest KDE stuff on the outside and keep your stable base beneath.
Why? Because, in my experience, Plasma only gets more refined each update. As long as there aren’t any new big features, there are about hundred bugs resolved weekly.
Or, you can do the opposite. Use something newer, like TW, Slowroll, Sid(uction) or Arch, to get the newest software under the hood, and use the Debian repo to get a stable DE.
Just what you prefer.
In your case, I’d settle with Fedora (mutable or Atomic, in your case the Kinoite version, as I’d prefer that one too), and just don’t upgrade to the newest version.
The older version is always supported for a year or two, and you don’t have to upgrade each release. The bug fixes always get backported if possible.
Thanks! Yes its a shame that Debian (and Leap?) Will not have Plasma6 in like 6 months where stable release would fit perfectly.
My experience is the same, on Manjaro Plasma was way better than on Kubuntu and Manjaro convinced me of Plasma. Fedora is a sweet spot and staying with F39 for a while (even though I will probably switch to F40 right away as Plasma6 has sooo many bug fixes I personally reported) could work.
You mean a rootful Distrobox with a DE in it? I have to try that out, sounds crazy. Would need a seperate home if that is possible, as I dont want to have messed up dotfiles.
One of my biggest pet peeves with Linux by far. Usually my use of Linux is generally just parsec and that’s it. But I can’t ever select the right driver, and then I forget, idk it’s a whole thing and I just wish it was baked in and easy, but then again it is linux
I don’t exactly know why, but part of it could be that due to different open source licences they have to keep things separate, because the kernel is licenced under the GPL, and the Intel video libraries probably aren’t.
Another reason could be simply not wanting bloat, but with everything a standard kernel does come with I guess probably not
Mostly misdirected anger from two categories — Arch purists who balk at the notion of someone modding their beloved distro, and newbs who blame Manjaro for issues they create themselves and they would have on any Arch-based distro.
Mostly misdirected anger from two categories — Arch purists who balk at the notion of someone modding their beloved distro, and newbs who blame Manjaro for issues they create themselves and they would have on any Arch-based distro.
Nope not at all. The built in and by Manjaro maintained packagemanager pamac bricks systems. Has not bricked mine since i use pacman instead.
The packages are just the arch packages delayed by a few days which makes it incompatible with the (by default enabled an encouraged to use) AUR.
No way, if you dont already have that, its a complete waste of money. 300€ is not little! I bought a Clevo NV41MZ for that, which has 16GB RAM, 500GB SSD, i7 CPU and is supported by Coreboot
Aaand that’s how badly Microsoft messed up the marketing for the surface line. I didn’t know the surface line had laptops, I thought the surface line was a tablets only (With the detachable keyboard base). 2 random internet people who are involved in the tech world had 2 completely opposite understandings of their product line because they made the marketing and branding so bad.
Besides the points made - using their own repos. It kind of defeats an important point of using Arch, if you don’t use the official repos as your main source of packages imo.
It’s a rolling release. You have to let it roll. Arch already has testing repos, there is zero need to test outside of them.
Because they don’t push updates as quickly, which reduces the chances of something slipping through, be it their merit or not. This comes at the expense that it sometimes breaks dependencies and still has close to zero real benefits:
You are better off simply using snapshots. Then you don’t depend on the testing of either party.
Even if the Manjaro devs do to find bugs, they could have found them in Arch Testing as well, which benefits everyone.
I stand by my point that the update strategy is not a feature.
The whole project is finished. He’s slowly merging so the Wine main devs are not forced to review the whole project all at once and miss details in their review
How many more PRs/MRs left? And when will it be available via wine staging? I can’t wait to try Wayland gaming on Hyprland! I’ve moved everything else over to it already
€300 euro for a device with such low specs seems like a pretty bad deal to me. I just looked online and the first result was a Surface Pro 6 with 8GB RAM and 256 GB of storage for the same price.
Because those specs don’t sound like something you would get on a recent device. I thought 8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage was the minimum now for Windows devices but I guess I’m wrong.
It’s a bit older, but the other comments kind of convinced me that MS just released a severely underpowered piece of hardware as the “budget option”.
Kind of untypical for them, especially considering that the surface devices are supposed to compete with ipads and Windows 11 is supposed to run on these things.
A month or so ago I picked up an 8gb model and it’s been really nice, I wrote a blog post about it if you’re interested and have been really happy with it. 4gb is enough for note taking & code writing, web browsing, reading, and YouTube watching (at low/mid resolutions) and I actually got away with those on a 2gb RAM 16gb storage Chromebook + Debian for a while. Still though, if you can spring for 8gb of ram that will be helpful, and a necessity if you want to do things like run waydroid.
Gnome works great, just be sure to set up the on screen keyboard and run the custom hot corners plugin to make it work everywhere. Also, I know that chromium doesn’t have the best reputation in these parts, but you’ll probably need to use either a WebKit or chromium browser for their touch controls and PWAs.
I went with Debian, but I can’t imagine Fedora offering a much different experience. Mine worked fine without a surface specific kernel, but results may vary from device to device.
Last, I bought mine used for $99 US on EBay. Not sure how it varies from country to country but at least in the states you can find older surface models in decent condition starting at $70 US or $100 US for ones in like new condition with a keyboard & charger.
Edit: beyond Surfaces, if you’re deal hunting and don’t mind more research I believe most 2 in 1s running Windows or ChromeOS will accept a custom OS.
I’ve had nothing but a great stable experience with it. I tried the other distros like endeavor and Garuda but they both looked ugly and had some issue after install. I think people hate manjaro because it’s bloated but I appreciated that everything I needed was already setup, configured and good to go.
I didn’t install any aur packages because those are unsupported and I don’t know enough to support them myself.
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