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pruneaue, in FN keys 7 to 12 not working properly (fedora 39 on Framework)

Afaik those keys should work ootb, especially on fedora.
Which framework version do you have?

WbrJr,

Worked ok the last install flawless immediately. I have the first European batch of fw13 with i7 11gen

pruneaue,

Hm ok im not familiar with the 13. Tweaks on the 12 (and i think the 13 too) are needed only for the brightness keys.
Personally i would try a reinstall, as unfortunate as that sounds. Especially since it sounds like its a pretty fresh install.

Daeraxa, in What's your experience with a touchscreen laptop on your distro?

I have an Thinkpad X380 Yoga running stock Fedora with GNOME and it works pretty damn well. The pen works and it recognises the buttons, the auto appearing keyboard works and so does the auto rotate. Basically very few problems at all, I don’t use it all that extensively outside of GIMP though.

solidgrue, in What's your experience with a touchscreen laptop on your distro?
@solidgrue@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve had a couple touchscreen portables that run Linux. I virtually NEVER use the touchscreen on the traditional notebook style portables, which are an Asus Zenbook from the mid-2010s and a Dell Latitude 7390 from 2017 or so. Both run Debian/XFCE. The desktop environment isn’t really designed for touch interaction, and the screens have pretty low resolution and terrible multitouch support. It works.for the odd button press, or to advance slides during presentations. It’s just not a great experience. Plus, both of those screens smudge like the Devil, and just collect fingerprints & dust.

The third portable is a Lenovo Carbon X1 slate, one of the generations from late 2019. It has a Wacom 3000x3000 touch display built in, and a multifunctional stylus. I run Mint Debian Edition with Cinnamon on that one. Its on Mint 18 or 19, so take the next bit as how it was a couple years ago: the touchscreen experience in Cinnamon is functional but a little.clunky. Touch interaction is responsive, accurate and smooth. Writing with the stylus takes some getting used to, but taking handwritten notes and diagrams in Xjournal or an app called Write was okay. I never got the hang of calling up the on-screen keyboard in fewer than a couple.of taps, but once it was up it worked fine. Its terrible for coding or commandline interactions because the special character layouts were more iThing-like.than Android but it did work, even if slowly.

One thing I did struggle with was screen rotation. I had to download and tweak a script that called some xrdb or xrandr commands when the orientation changed. Kludgy, but it did work and it got the job done.

I imagine newer versins of Cinnamon have improved on all this in the last few years. In fact, I was going to make a project this week of reinstalling that system on the latest LMDE to see if I couldn’t make better use of it now that we’re back in the office a few days a week. I was getting the hang of the digital notepad, and now I kind of miss it.

(Why reinstall? Dumb decisions on my.part when sizing the slices I used for boot and root. Gotta blow it all away to make it right.)

Happy to answer questions if I can.

Lettuceeatlettuce, in What's your experience with a touchscreen laptop on your distro?
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I’ve owned a Thinkpad A485 with touchscreen for years and had several Linux distros on it including Manjaro and Linux Mint which I am currently using.

Never had any issues, touchscreen always works out of the box without me having to do anything extra. In fact, with a few distros, I’ve had issues with certain wireless mice, but my touchscreen always has worked. So I’ve actually had slightly better luck with the laptop touchscreen than some external mice lol.

Now a qualifier: I rarely use the touchscreen, and when I do, it’s always just to click something or scroll on an article or file list. I don’t do any special gestures or fancy touch functions, so I can’t speak to support from that perspective.

Aman9das, in FN keys 7 to 12 not working properly (fedora 39 on Framework)

There are tweaks needed, easiest way to get them imo is ublue.it

ReveredOxygen, in FN keys 7 to 12 not working properly (fedora 39 on Framework)
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

Are you able to use f12 to get into the boot menu?

WbrJr,

yes (even though i now have 2 fedora instalatoins shown that apearently lead to the same installation.

But i just noticed, that only the fn7 and 8 do not work, airplane mode does work!

joyjoy, in What's your experience with a touchscreen laptop on your distro?

Using an xps17 2019. The touch screen works ok, but it stops working after closing the lid. Using EndeavourOS with Wayland btw.

Snoopy, (edited ) in Why do you use the terminal?
@Snoopy@jlai.lu avatar

Because app manager doesn’t work well. And there are the feedback on terminal that tell you about missing dependencies or broken packages…The fact you get those verbose log help for doing web research and solve lot problems. On GUI installing app isn’t well done : it’s slow, they don’t tell you what they are doing nor why it fail.

The only limitation of terminal is when you want to work with file system. I need to see the tree and typing ls -a everytime isn’t efficient. Example, i’m doing a git clone on a server throught ssh. But i have no way to know its structure and check if i downloaded it in the correct directory. I need a visual that tell me this folder is here, has those writing permission, is a tar archive… So i use both : filezilla and terminal, gui and cli. In fact, they are both very useful, so there no point comparing gui and cli, they both serve well their purpose.

I’m using CLI and GUI. For example, if i want to chose the correct keyboard and check its mapping : gui. If i want to add sources and its gpg key : app manager gui. There is no way i would enjoy typing this huge command line with flags from my mind, and i do lot mistype. Or installing the stack lamp ? on windows it was amazing and faster than linux. next, next, done.

Luckly we can copy-pasta those commands.

Edit : updated my text.

tuhriel,

For filesystems I have another gripe: if I move a file to another directory and I want to swap to the directory I just copied the stuff to I have to enter the whole path again…

berryjam, in Why do you use the terminal?

It’s very fast and nearly always gives me the results I want without extra bullshit. For example using bc or qalc to do a quick unit conversion vs launching a calculator app for the same purpose.

berryjam, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

Ubuntu. I hated not being able to customize certain things and it had some interesting bugs on my hardware. Switching to a different distro solved those issues

toastal,

Was that an Ubuntu problem or a GNOME thing?

berryjam,

I have no idea. This was more than 5 years ago. Fwiw I now use Arch (sans Gnome) and I’m very happy with the experience.

amanneedsamaid, in Writing program

I use LaTeX, and edit using Emacs. The nice thing about LaTeX is the editor you use doesn’t matter.

phpinjected, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?
@phpinjected@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Arch

sagedemage, in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

I hopped to many distros and found Ubuntu to be my home.

  1. Mint => Desktop looks dated and ugly
  2. POP! OS => Unstable for Ubuntu distro
  3. Rest of Ubuntu forks => nothing special about them
  4. Arch Linux => Too bleedy edge
  5. Debian => stale packages (Really solid distro though but dated version of Gnome)
  6. Ubuntu => Really solid distro (It is a great balance between stability and bleeding edge)
dan, (edited )
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Debian => stale packages (Really solid distro though but dated version of Gnome)

Did you try using the testing or unstable versions of Debian? Testing is still more stable than some other distros. Packages need to be in unstable with no major bug reports for 10 days before they migrate to testing.

sagedemage,

I forgot to mention that I did try Debian testing. I did like it came with a recent version of Gnome. However, I did had a few problems with it:

  1. I personally found it updates more frequently then I like it. I found that the user interface for Gnome changes often.
  2. If I want to install MySQL workbench, it does not have a download link for Debian at all.
  3. I did got a weird crash bug with Krita on Debian testing. I am not sure if it was Debian’s or Krita’s fault.

I did found Debian testing to be slightly unstable. I decided, I will give Ubuntu a shot again and was happy with that decision.

neonred,

Try Debian sid (unstable), from my experience it’s actually more stable than testing because it gets updates even more often.

And ditch Gnome. There is no way to be happy with it as it craps out very often and is a maintenance burden for maintainers, therefore the quality differs so much.

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

Fedora => opposite of debian. Bleeding edge, but that means you have to spend an insane amount of time updating or it will reach EOL in no time

woelkchen,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

you have to spend an insane amount of time updating

How slow is your internet connection?

or it will reach EOL in no time

Sure you don’t confuse Fedora with non-LTS Ubuntu releases? According to docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/lifecycle/ each release is supported for 13 months which isn’t 10 years of LTS but hardly “in no time” either.

Mubelotix,
@Mubelotix@jlai.lu avatar

I don’t mean downloading updates I mean manually updating your configuration to adapt to new versions of the software. That’s what takes time. I know 13 months is already quite high but it feels too low for me. I’m running servers over longer periods than that

pete_the_cat,

Fedora annoys me (even though I’ve been using it for like 2.5 years on my work laptop) because a lot of packages that would be in extra in something like the Ubuntu (and it’s derivatives) or Arch (and it’s derivatives) is in a separate repository that you have to add.

Stillhart, in I didn't know where else to ask this, if there is another comm i should ask please lmk. Do you have any suggestions for wireless headphones i can use with linux?

My laptop has BT built in and it works fine with everything I’ve connected to it so I don’t see why any BT headphones wouldn’t work. I think you probably just need to get a BT card/dongle for your system and then you can use whatever headphones you want. So the question you probably should be asking is: what BT card/dongle works with my system?

____, in I didn't know where else to ask this, if there is another comm i should ask please lmk. Do you have any suggestions for wireless headphones i can use with linux?

I have been quite happy with my knock off no name over the ear Chinese/amazon special for months now.

When the battery life starts to suffer, I’ll spend the fifteen bucks again, but hasn’t been a problem at all.

Manjaro LXQT, on a Lenovo P70 that’s starting to show its age. They just work.

It’s basically the same headset hardware that I would’ve used in 2008 or so, tbh. Sound quality isn’t perfect but I am not an audiophile. They work equally well for music from my phone while driving since they’re one ear only.

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