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avidamoeba, in Random application segfaults on Arch
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Crashes on Arch, doesn’t crash on Debian:

Debian > Arch

Sanguine,

Not the point of this thread.

avidamoeba,
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Of course.

helenslunch, in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS
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Because Windows blows.

Saved you a click.

SnotFlickerman,
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Reminds me of my friend getting in trouble in high school’s the PC lab for changing all the startup screens from saying “Windows 95” to “Winblows 95.”

SnotFlickerman, (edited ) in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS
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Because Microsoft ain’t gonna make Windows any better for this form factor until it is way late to the game, as usual.

Windows is basically a product for corporations now. Consumer Windows is an afterthought most of the time.

However, I could be wrong with Xbox’s theorized pivot away from hardware.

cm0002,

Consumer Windows is an afterthought most of the time.

Always has been

Windows is an enterprise OS with consumer features and macOS is a consumer OS with enterprise features.

PerogiBoi,
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And I’m a man with boy-like intellect, just in case anyone was wondering.

Hamartiogonic,
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What about Linux then? A 1337 OS with some noob features sprinkled in for color? Or maybe a server OS with desktop features stapled on the front?

domi,
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Or maybe a server OS with desktop features stapled on the front?

That is a very accurate description of Linux considering even X11 and Wayland are display servers. Pipewire and Pulseaudio are also servers.

SkyeStarfall, (edited )

Don’t misunderstand what a server means, however. Just because something is called a server doesn’t mean it’s not made for the desktop. It’s a technical term that doesn’t necessarily relate to networking, it might just relate to stuff like inter-process communication.

However, Wayland is designed for the desktop environment. It’s like the main reason why it replaces X11, which was designed for terminals.

domi,
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My comment was mostly meant as a joke. I’m aware most of them use their networking capabilities for IPC and being able to use them remotely is just a cool feature resulting from that (except X11).

cm0002,

Linux is an everything OS with whatever features you want/need. Do you need a hardened enterprise server? Linux got you. Do you need a user friendly OS for even non-technical people? Linux got you. Do you need something that can do a little of everything? Believe it or not, Linux got you.

acockworkorange,

Straight to jail.

SatyrSack,

You underclock your laptop? Linux got you.

You overclock your gaming rig? Believe it or not, Linux got you.

Underclock, overclock.

LeFantome,

I know this is a joke comment but Linux is for sure an enterprise kernel first and foremost. It did not start that way but that is how it has been developed and managed for many years now. Maybe the most incorrect thing anybody has ever said on record in the computer industry is when Linus said Linux was “not going to be anything big and professional”.

Linux distributions, which are conceived and managed totally independently from the kernel are available for every niche. Many of them are desktop and “consumer” oriented. With many Linux distributions, I would say that it is more accurate that they are hobbiest oriented more than what Microsoft would mean be “consumer”.

Dudewitbow,

windows optimized for handhelds is already a work in progress, its just not remotely done

aniki,

Microsoft has never, since inception, been able to ship an embedded Windows that wasn’t a festering pile of dog shit.

oce,
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Windows phone on Nokia Lumia was pretty good and well polished, and I’m a Linux fan.

Dudewitbow, (edited )

embedded windows in the japanese arcade scene has been working fine so far. for example, most of bandais arcade machines in the past like 7 yaers or so basically run embedded windows.

it was a benefit to non arcade users because a majority of games that were on those machines eventually got pc versions, or a new game on pc for the first time (e.g Tekken 7, Taiko No Tatsujin), where historically, theyve basically never been on PC officially.

aniki, (edited )

So let me get this straight – your defense of Microsoft, in this instance, is Japanese cabinet makers, making arcade machines, where the user doesn’t interact with the operating system in the slightest bit? A Japan that still faxes even in modernity? That’s your defense of MS? I bet they aren’t even using a special build of windows — just the desktop schlock with some shitty 3rd party app on top.

Dudewitbow, (edited )

im not defending mocrosoft at a whole, im just saying windows embedded isnt as bad as you actually think it is, and consumers benefitted from it more than it not

A Japan that still faxes even in modernity?

what a country does has barely anything to do with rhis context. thats like saying the U.S is shit because they didnt have tap to pay until Covid happened, whoch other countries have been usong for a decade before, or having terrible public transportation and internet infrastructure, and in the latter case, basically invented it.

That’s your defense of MS? I bet they aren’t even using a special build of windows — just the desktop schlock with some shitty 3rd party app on top.

that shows how ignorant you are with it because all of the games arent directly ported. look into the efforts required to port Gundam Extreme Versus 2 on teknoparrot. if it was a native game, then they wouldnt have to jump through as many hoops as the game doesnt have a PC port (nor any of its predecessors have ever had one)

Abnorc,

They could even bring back the Zune branding if they finally do it. It’d almost be poetic.

Ottomateeverything, (edited )

I don’t know that Microsoft has any business trying to make Windows support these devices better…

Windows is entirely built around two pillars:

  1. Enterprise support for corporations, and team machine management
  2. Entirely open compatibility so they can run almost any hardware you put into it, plug into it, and backwards compatibility for all that for as long as possible.

Portable game machines are not an enterprise product. Nor do you care about broad hardware support or upgradability. Nor do you care about plugging in your parallel port printer from 1985. Nor do you care about running your ancient vb6 code to run your production machines over some random firewire card.

Windows’ goal is entirely oppositional to portable gaming devices. It makes almost no sense for them to try to support it, as it’d go against their entire model. For things like these, you want a thin, optimized-over-flexible, purpose built OS that does one thing: play games. Linux is already built to solve this problem way better than Windows.

But, Microsoft will probably be stupid enough to try anyway.

Ibaudia, in Why more PC gaming handhelds should ditch Windows for SteamOS
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Of course Linux is better for custom, purpose-built hardware. That’s like, its main advantage for the commercial sector.

fidodo,

Also, single purpose use cases. Servers don’t necessarily run on custom hardware, but they do only one type of thing.

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  • GTG3000,

    Yeah, the sole reason I don’t have linux on my old laptop is that lenovo has completely proprietary video drivers for it. I’m talking “manufacturer’s installers don’t think there’s a video card there” proprietary.

    Ottomateeverything,

    Now we just need that GFX software from intel / amd / nvidia that is available on windows, taking advantage of that newly supported hardware

    Stop, you’re making me too hard. I might be able to like, ditch Windows if that happens.

    woelkchen, (edited )
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    Edit. By software I’m talking about in game features.

    Like FSR and such? That’s available on Linux (FSR 1.x is integrated into SteamOS for compositor-level upscaling). AFAIK AMD does not officially support FSR on Linux but it’s written in a way that it should work with minor integration work. It’s written with cross-platform support in mind, given that it’s targeting PlayStation etc. als well.

    zelifcam, (edited ) in Random application segfaults on Arch
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  • NoisyFlake,

    Hm, I’ve had this problem since my initial setup about 2-3 months ago, I think that if there’s something wrong with the software in the repos, it would’ve been fixed by now and I wouldn’t be the only one having this problem, right?

    But of course, if you want I can give the testing repos a try :)

    spittingimage, in Something to ruffle some penguin feathers: The Unix Hater's Handbook
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    Gasp

    Quick, to the fainting couch!

    deafboy, in Recent GNOME design work – Form and Function
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    More like form and whitespace… God knows how I try to like modern gnome, but it’s not easy.

    drwho, in Something to ruffle some penguin feathers: The Unix Hater's Handbook

    A classic! Way back when it used to be recommended on as a good introductory text (until O’Reilly started publishing books on Linux, anyway).

    drwho, in Random application segfaults on Arch

    Are you keeping an eye on system temperature?

    NoisyFlake,

    Yeah, temperatures are usually between 40-50 °C, so that should be fine.

    drwho,

    Yeah, that should be fine.

    Anything in the kernel message buffer? dmesg -T | less

    NoisyFlake,

    I’m not sure, here’s the entire dmesg output: pastebin.com/MZfhB0xK

    drwho,

    I’m not seeing anything relevant to lockups or crashes in there. Pretty boring logs.

    Frederic, in 32-bit distro suggestions for 2007 MacBook

    Pretty sure you can run MX Linux 32bits on it

    woelkchen, in 32-bit distro suggestions for 2007 MacBook
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    openSUSE Tumbleweed still supports 32bit x86.

    bismuthbob, in 32-bit distro suggestions for 2007 MacBook
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    Something a bit more out-of-the-box: I used to run 64-bit linux on a 2,1 Macbook Pro. Similar specs, including the same RAM ceiling. The isos are a bit out of date, but you can always install one and then upgrade from there. <a href="">https://mattgadient.com/linux-dvd-images-and-how-to-for-32-bit-efi-macs-late-2006-models/</a>

    hellfire103,
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    Whoa! Thank you!

    Chewy7324, in Docker team is considering distributing Docker Desktop as a Flatpak and Snap

    At first I read only docker without the context of the Docker Desktop client.

    Making docker a one-click installation on all distros is great, altough I wouldn’t use it myself.

    If they actually make a flatpak I wonder whether they’ll only support rootless docker or if it’ll ask for elevated permissions through polkit.

    TCB13, in Docker team is considering distributing Docker Desktop as a Flatpak and Snap
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    Let’s make mounts and permissions even harder to get right! But I’m totally up for a flathub release.

    Drito, in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?

    You can use live isos. Some distros, such as Manjaro or Fedora spins, has several isos, one per DE.

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