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throwawayish, (edited ) in I'm so frustrated rn.

OP, my request/suggestion would be the following:

In order for us to better help you consider the following:

  • Inform us on your hardware specs. You could even rely on the software found on linux-hardware.org for a (so-called) probe.
  • Inform us on which distros you’ve tried. If possible, for each one of them list the following:
    • What exactly didn’t work?
    • Did you try any troubleshooting?

On a more general note, you shouldn’t feel the need to switch distros even if other distros might offer more convenient solutions.

Story timeWhen I was new to Linux, I wanted to rely on the Chromium browser for cloud gaming through Nvidia GeForce NOW’s web platform. For some reason, I just wasn’t able to get this to work on Fedora. Somehow, while still being mostly a newbie, I stumbled upon Distrobox and decided to give it a go in hopes of allowing me to overcome the earlier challenge by benefiting of the ArchWiki and the AUR through an Arch distrobox. And voila; -without too much effort- it just worked. More recently, after I’ve become slightly more knowledgeable on Linux, I just rely on a flatpak to get the same work done.


Moral of the story would be that there are a lot of different ways that enable one to overcome challenges like these. And unless you feel the need to go with a system that’s (mostly) managed for you (à la uBlue)^[1]^, you will face issues every now and then. And the only way to deal with them would be to either setup^[2]^ (GRUB-)Btrfs+Timeshift/Snapper (or similar solutions) such that it automatically snapshots a working state that you might rollback to whenever something unfortunate befalls your system or to simply become ever so better equipped in troubleshooting them yourself.


  1. But therefore demands from you to engage with the system in a specific (mostly unique) way.
  2. Or rely on a distro that sets it up for you.
Doods, (edited ) in Steam not launching games - no idea what to do [Solved]

You press play and it goes off after a while, you have problems with vulkan, you have an old PC.

I had this exact issue before, try tuning an older version of proton, as newer versions require more recent vulkan versions, which your PC most likely doesn’t support.

steam auto updates to the latest proton version usually, that’s probably why.

Critical_Insight, (edited )

I did get the “Processing vulcan shaders” pop-up sometimes when I opened the game (back when it was still working) So I should not be using the Proton experimental? It worked just fine untill now. That’s what’s so strange about it. I do have an old PC but my GPU is brand new though.

I’m trying to re-install steam right now but it’s been uninstalling it for about an hour and doesn’t seem to be progressing anywhere…

Doods, (edited )

1 - Proton experimental is a moving target and is rapidly evolving.

2 - What exactly is your GPU, and maybe tell us your pc specs (even if it’s just through the info tab in the settings menu) (also put it in your post for others)

3 - that sometimes happens to me when using gnome-software (which Ubuntu uses? or something really similar?), I usually just surrender and use the terminal, not like I install more than 1 thing in a normal month anyway.

4 - if the issue is with proton, then other games wouldn’t work. (try running a very light, single player game to test proton, many F2P games under 20 mbs exist on Steam)

Auzy, in Distro for POS

if it is for a small shop, whatever you’re used to.

For mass deployment, you’ll want to probably use something with proper support

Bitrot,
@Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Yes, SUSE Linux Enterprise Point of Service often ends up being a source of “Linux in the wild” posts.

iAvicenna, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...
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who the fuck made this horrible graphic? when will people realize that grossly redundant features that also complicate interpretation (such as trying to make a bar plot 3d) is absolutely one of the worst things you can do.

v4ld1z,
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Isn’t this kind of the point of the graph?

iAvicenna,
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When used correctly the point of the graph is to make use of the fact that humans are super fast at visual convolution tasks but not so great at doing mental statistics. If your graph makes the interpretation of complicated statistical facts immediate for the viewer (and as faithful to the facts as possible, whatever that means) then it has achieved its purpose.

v4ld1z,
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I get that, I know what a graph is, but this is clearly meant as a meme, hence the lacking axis descriptions and scale, and the 3d rendering. It’s literally just a meme

iAvicenna,
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hmm I thought it was a meme built on top of a real graph

abeltramo,
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Wooosh

Dirk, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar
nous, in Steam not launching games - no idea what to do [Solved]

Have you tried updating and rebooting your system? I have had this happen a few times and almost always that is what fixes it for me (more so the rebooting but it is generally good to have your system up to date). Other times it is typically something missing on your host system (like properly installed drivers), though if the game was running before then this is less likely to be the issue and a reboot is typically enough - so start with that.

Critical_Insight,

I have checked all drivers, atleast I think I have, and have rebooted the system many times. Even took off the power cord for a minute

UnfortunateShort, (edited ) in I'm so frustrated rn.

There is not a single distro where everything works out of the box. I would be very surprised if even Windows or MacOS work exactly like you expect, the second you boot into them the first time.

I like Arch / EndeavourOS, but you will definitely need quiet some configuration for them. If you want more user-friendly or more up-to-date Debian, try Sparky Linux. It’s honestly quite good. Instead of Ubuntu you might want to give Mint a try. Many fancy it as a more open and less corpo alternative.

Ubuntu itself is alright, but it’s being criticised for pushing anti-consumer moves lately (i.e. forcing Snaps and telemetry onto them). Also, updates on Ubuntu are extremely slow in my experience. Maybe that has changed, but in some areas I doubt it.

Lmaydev,

Windows generally does work exactly like that. It’s the reason it has such a huge market share of desktops.

taladar,

Windows breaks something all the time. Just the other week I had to fix their stupid new Email program for my dad.

UnfortunateShort,

There are many reasons why their market share is so high:

  • They were there before Linux
  • They had a GUI before Linux even existed iirc (let alone before Linux’s were any good)
  • They were focused on desktop + consumer market from the start
  • They are for-profit and have a marketing budget
  • They have the Office products many depend on (be it justified or not)
  • For a long time, gaming was basically impossible on Linux
Nibodhika,

That is absolutely not true, Ubuntu has been a lot more out of the box experience for almost 2 decades. Thing is people are already familiar on how to do things on Windows, and most laptops already come with windows and drivers pre installed. Windows 10 was the first version to have a driver manager that could find the correct drivers for you, still you need to waste a few hours and reboots to get all of the drivers and updates.

Lmaydev,

But let’s be honest it still really isn’t an out of the box experience.

Just look at all the shit with Snap you see constantly.

Nibodhika,

No, it’s not, I said it’s more of an out of box experience than windows, not that it was perfect

cosmicrookie,
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As a very casual user, I can say that windows has intuitive solutions to issues that may arise. At least there are some things users can try by just using logic.

In Linux, solving issues requires you to type in the Romanian national anthem backwards, speperated by ; and the ocational “sudo” and “apt get”

Nibodhika,

If you tried to stumble your way around the UI on Linux you’ll probably find very similar UI paths to solve any issue. The thing is that Linux has several different UIs so when you ask in a forum it’s easier to give you the UI-agnostic solution. Let’s take a common issue with an apparent arcane solution, e.g. change your screen positions. On windows you do this by going start > settings > system > display and adjust them there, on Linux you’ll get given an xrandr command like xrandr --output HDMI-0 --left-of DP-2, but on KDE you go start > system settings > display and monitor and adjust them there, but because you might be using Gnome, Lxde, XFCE, Mate, etc (all of which have a very similarly intuitive path to adjust this) it’s easier to give you a command that does it.

For the first several years I used Linux I almost didn’t touched the terminal, and that was a long time ago so it’s not that it’s not possible or recent, it’s just that because windows has only a single graphical interface you get answers for it, but if you ask things on generic Linux forums you’ll get generic Linux responses, if you had to do things without asking anyone online they’re very much the same.

Vincent,

There is not a single distro where everything works out of the box.

On the other hand, if hardware manufacturers or software developers test their products with one Linux distribution, it will be Ubuntu. So that’s generally the safest bet - and that’s coming from someone who doesn’t use Ubuntu.

Kory, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?
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Linux Mint

NOOBMASTER, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

I’ve said this before, and I see that I have to say it again, Zorin OS.

Spoonbit, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

Linux just moved out of 5.x.x hell. Well catch up soon

StrangeAstronomer, (edited ) in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

Can’t believe no-one mentioned voidlinux yet. It’s very tasty.

UncleBadTouch, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...
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but wouldnt lower numbers mean no one needed to fix & revamp a working OS?

higher numbers mean more fuckups than needed to be fixed until it was so broken there was no longer a way to code you way out, had to start right from the start!

AVincentInSpace,

no it just means the OS is abandoned obviously, don’t you know that any library with no commits in the last 20 minutes is not worth using /s

lorty,
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It really depends on what versioning means for the project. If we are talking about semantic versioning then a lower number only means there haven’t been many breaking changes over time. Or that a lot of broken stuff has been kept that way because it would break compatibility.

Ashiette, in Distro for POS

If you’ll be using it in a shop, as a tool and that Debian works well. Well… stick with Debian !

Chewy7324, in Distro for POS

Maybe a kiosk compositor which displays only a single app works well for this use case.

github.com/cage-kiosk/cage

errorlab,

I’ve never known a such thing exists, thank you so much for sharing it. Gonna test it out this weekend.

bigboismith, in Steam not launching games - no idea what to do [Solved]

Try to open the game manually. IIRC protontricks can be used to open the executable with the correct proton instance. Would probably be my go-to first ste4 to start tinkering

Critical_Insight,

There seems to be something wrong trying to install it. I get message saying:


<span style="color:#323232;">32-bit Nvidia driver (nvidia-driver-libs:i386) required                     
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │                                                                             
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ This computer appears to be using the Nvidia binary graphics driver (the    
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ nvidia-driver package).                                                     
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │                                                                             
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ Steam is a 32-bit program, so running it on this computer requires the      
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ 32-bit versions of the Nvidia libraries, even if all the games you will     
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ run via Steam are 64-bit. Please install the nvidia-driver-libs:i386        
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ package.                                                                    
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │                                                                             
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ For full functionality (including Vulkan), also install the libraries       
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ listed as Recommends in the nvidia-driver-libs:i386 package. 
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ If you are using a legacy version of the Nvidia driver such as              
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver, please install the corresponding 32-bit         
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │ legacy package, for example nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver-libs:i386.           
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │                                                                             
</span><span style="color:#323232;"> │                                  
</span>
Moghul,

The message seems to give you at least what it thinks the solution to the problem is:

apt install nvidia-driver-libs:i386

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