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JokeDeity, (edited ) in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

14 versions and they still haven’t got it right? SMH.

1984, (edited )
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Yeah all I see is 14 huge failures. :)

Linux version 6 is a bit of a stretch though since it’s just the kernel. I guess they could have put Ubuntu 23 up there to make it “win”…

jalda,

Fedora 39 is clearly superior to Ubuntu 23

1984,
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I guess. I had lots of issues with Fedora in the past so can’t recommend it personally but some people like it.

prenatal_confusion, in Distro for POS

If the erp is Browser based then a lightweight distro with a Browser of your choice. Like Debian.

muhyb, in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?

Gentoo used to have a live CD with almost every DE / WM in it. Not sure if it’s still around though.

nyan,

The last one is from 2017, alas. The current Gentoo GUI ISO only includes KDE and fluxbox ( full package list, just in case someone’s really bored and wants a look).

duncesplayed, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

Isn’t it Mac OS X 14? I.e., Mac OS 10.14?

dizzy,
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No they ditched OSX and yearly point updates in 2020 and went from Mac OSX 10.15.7 to MacOS 11.0

The next yearly release was MacOS 12.

It’s now up to 14.2.1

duncesplayed,

Ah thanks for that! You can tell how long it’s been since I’ve used Mac OS.

sfxrlz,

Do you know why?

Korne127,
@Korne127@lemmy.world avatar

Actually yeah

In 2000, Steve Jobs announced Mac OS X as the operating system for the next 20 years. So they kept the version for 20 years and well… in 2020 they started to make the yearly updates be major version number updates again (instead of minor version numbers).

Also @dizzy

dizzy,
@dizzy@lemmy.ml avatar

Probably just wanted a higher number than windows or didn’t want to get leapfrogged. Also makes more sense with iOS having a similar schedule.

xantoxis, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

well, 23 years ago this graph would have had windows 2000 WAY in the lead.

replicat,

Anime PFP leads me to believe OP uses arch btw.

GammaGames, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

elementary!

d3Xt3r, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

Bazzite. It’s based on Fedora uBlue so it’s technically Fedora, but being an immutable OS, it works quite differently enough that it counts as its own distro. For instance, you don’t use dnf or yum to install stuff, you’d use Flatpak/Distrobox/Nix. Updates are done using the rpm-ostree command, and it’s effectively a rolling release model, but atomic in nature so you get none of the instability that you’d get in a typical rolling release.

Grass, in I'm so frustrated rn.

Linux is kinda like a 3d printer. You can end up tinkering and tuning more than printing.

2d printers are just cursed and have been since the dawn of mankind though. Go to openprinting.org/printers/ and see if your printer is in there and if it is which functionality header it is under. I’m assuming it isn’t capable of driverless if debian didn’t work and the other distro just happened to have something preinstalled. Unless debian doesn’t handle driverless printing out of the box. I’ve only used debian headless for server stuff so I’m just making assumptions.

Arch maintainers recommend against aur helpers but for quite some time I just did exactly that and got the drivers for whatever jank ass printer I had at the time that way. Most of the official ones I have encountered are rpm and I hadn’t used fedora or other rpm distros until recently, and the aur pkgbuilds would unpack the rpm and install the drivers the arch way. Incidentally, last I tried silverblue/ublue/kinoite etc can’t install the brother printer rpms via rpm-ostree so having a driverless capable printer was lucky considering it was just randomly given to me by a friend that moved away.

If you share the printer model, someone here can probably also figure out what needs to be done without you having to go through a bunch of troubleshooting too.

Samsy, in Some of y'all need to see this and drop the superiority complex...

If people really get triggered by this bullshit graph, let’s add Arch Linux which is on what? >200? >300?

aBundleOfFerrets,

Arch doesn’t have a global version

Samsy,

I know but if I remember correctly there is a version tag at boot, 230 or something was the last I’ve seen.

aBundleOfFerrets,

I think that is the version for the archiso build, and I don’t think it should be used as a version for the OS

fallingcats, (edited )

Clearly the current version is 2024.01.01

Current Release: 2024.01.01
Included Kernel: 6.6.8
ISO Size: 883.3 MB

aBundleOfFerrets,

Well shit I guess we win then

Lettuceeatlettuce, in I'm so frustrated rn.
@Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml avatar

For first time plug-n-play distros, I either go with Linux Mint or Fedora, for me they have the best results for just working.

And make sure when installing them, you always check to use proprietary drivers and codecs if it’s an option, that will save you a bunch of trouble down the line.

UnfortunateShort,

Funnily enough, Fedora is the only distro I’ve ever had and still have the infamous Linux sound driver problems with

bhamlin, in What's your current favorite distro that isn't Arch, Debian or Fedora?

I miss slackware.

It still kinda exists, but really has become a ghost of its former self.

AlmightySnoo, in Linux in the corporate space
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It depends. I’m working in the quant department of a bank and we work on pricing libraries that the traders then use. Since traders often use Excel and expect add-ins, we have a mostly Windows environment. Our head of CI, a huge Windows and Powershell fan, once then decided to add a few servers with Linux (RHEL) on them to have automated Valgrind checks and gcc/clang builds there to continuously test our builds for warnings, undefined behavior (gcc with O3 does catch a few of them) and stuff.

I thought cool, at least Linux is making it into this department. Then I logged into one of those servers.

The fucker didn’t like the default file system hierarchy and did stuff like /Applications and `/Temp’ and is installing programs by manually downloading binaries and extracting them there.

knexcar, (edited )

To be fair, the three-letter directories aren’t particularly intuitive. “Bin”? Like the “Recycle Bin”? Or is it short for “Binary” files? But isn’t everything on the computer stored in binary? Is “dev” for developers? Is “run” for running programs? Is “opt” for options? What is “ect” even for, files that can’t find another home? In Windows, the folder names make sense and have complete sentences like “Program Files” and “Users”. I can understand someone wanting to replicate the same thing on Linux.

Hadriscus,

what do all these mean ? if you have a good resource at hand

VelveteenUnderground,
Hadriscus,

Cheers

Cyberflunk, in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?

Maybe this will help github.com/89luca89/distrobox

g_damian,
Guenther_Amanita, (edited ) in Easy way to try out a bunch of different DEs?

There are a few different ways:

  • VM: doesn’t give you the “real” experience. Often feels sluggish.
  • Installation via package manager: really clutters and messes up your system. There are many dependencies, and then you’ll have 5 different file managers for example.
  • Ventoy: the second best option, or the best, if you just wanna take a look at each. If you really want to try the DE for a few days, it isn’t suited of course.
  • Fedora Atomic (immutable variants like Silverblue): there’s a project called uBlue, that provides images for all DEs. You can install the vanilla Silverblue, and then rebase to each according image. Your custom installed programs and personal data stay intact, but everything else gets swapped out cleanly. Each rebase would take ~5 minutes and one reboot, but it feels like you reinstalled your OS and changed the flavor.
Aradia, in Linux 6.8 Network Optimizations Can Boost TCP Performance For Many Concurrent Connections By ~40%
@Aradia@lemmy.ml avatar

Now, gamers will want to play on Linux for the low latency on online games.

WMTYRO,

Unfortunately, many games where people care about that lower latency tend to be competitive with some kind of anti-cheat that doesn’t mesh with Linux.

WindowsEnjoyer,

Before that you have to download it. Well, using p2p mechanisms.

Aradia, (edited )
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I always download my games before playing them. I don’t know what you mean here.

neurospice,

I think they mean peer to peer ^arrr^

Aradia,
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But is that related to my comment? I don’t understand why he’s talking about downloading games via P2P.

WindowsEnjoyer,

Arrrrr 😅😅😅

Aradia,
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🤯

taladar,

Most low latency use cases in games use UDP, not TCP.

Aradia,
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Yeah, that would make sense as opening TCP connections is not really viable for low latency, hahaha.

taladar,

Opening the connections is one thing but resends and stream ordering can also cause issues since they might delay the latest information reaching the user space application even if the packet for them has actually arrived just because some earlier packet has not. There can also be issues with implementations waiting for enough data to be available before sending a packet.

Atemu,
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Depends. There was that one F2P COD clone which used TCP and IIRC it did fine?

icydefiance,

If your connection is stable, the latency will more or less be the same, but TCP will consume more bandwidth because of acknowledgement packets, making it harder to keep your connection stable.

On an unstable connection, TCP latency will skyrocket as it resends packets, while UDP will just drop those packets unless the game engine has its own way of resending them. Most engines have that, but they only do it for data that is marked as “important”. For example using an item is important, but the position of your character probably isn’t, because it’ll be updated on the next tick anyway.

pandacoder,

Unless it’s a Java Minecraft server which I believe exclusively uses TCP still.

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