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zeppo, in why doesn't GNOME have a mascot??
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

Probably because a gnome would be silly. I presume that’s not the image they’re looking for - garden gnomes, Christmas, fairy tales.

01adrianrdgz,
@01adrianrdgz@lemmy.world avatar

they can make another one, for example a squirrel would be nice, or an anime gnome.

zeppo,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

I think they’re happy with just a slightly silly foot logo. “Gnome Network Object Model Environment” is a serious sounding name and I don’t think an animal mascot is what they had in mind for branding (seeing as, they don’t have one). An anime gnome might even be the exact opposite of what their intent is. GNOME is looking to be seen as a professional alternative to MacOS and Windows. Speaking of which, note that Windows and OSX don’t have a mascot either.

SnotFlickerman, (edited )
@SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Gnome Chomsky.

Windows had Clippy then Cortana.

zeppo,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

Gnome Chomsky would be pretty hilarious. Kinda political though.

True, Windows had a couple characters (well, Clippy was for Office). The idea of those was a digital assistant character though, not really a mascot.

Euphoma,

Just stumbled upon this comment. Actually, Windows has been using anime mascots for years in asia. Notably, they haven’t made a new one for Windows 11.

zeppo,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

That’s interesting. What that indicates to me is that they feel it’s not advantageous marketing-wise to have one in other regions.

eager_eagle,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

it’d be silly, so they went with a… foot?

idk about that

zeppo,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

Less silly than a whole goofy gnome.

eager_eagle,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

It can be a badass gnome. Not many ways to represent a foot though.

muhyb,

At least the foot’s shape looks like G, or more like Ğ.

const_void, in Steam Linux Marketshare Surges To Nearly 2% In November

Tell me why “market share” of commerical, proprietary games is important to Linux again?

Secret300,

Potentially more support for other things other than gaming, maybe… Hopefully

Vilian,

nvidia openned their drivers not long after they announced that was “working sith valve to givd a better gaming experience on linux”

ShittyBeatlesFCPres,

Because it’ll be funny if Microsoft just gives up and makes “Windows” a desktop environment for Linux.

rasensprenger,

That would be extremely funny

CeeBee,

What would be great is they’d likely need to open source certain stuff for it to play nice with the kernel. Stuff like DirectX. And if that happens it’ll be a singularity moment for Linux compatibility and adoption.

zingo, (edited )

Starter edition - with no option of changing wallpaper and a 3 app multitask limitation.

Proprietary telemetry built into the kernel.

…Microsoft will die on that hill.

;)

possiblylinux127,

That’s what many people miss. I know Value is doing a lot but I was hoping for some other large companies to get into the space.

eager_eagle,
@eager_eagle@lemmy.world avatar

this is measuring market share of Linux in the gaming scene, not the other way around.

sep,

Bow I wonder what the gaming share of linux use would be. Probably very very small percentage. since the wast majority of linux installs are servers

AtmaJnana, (edited )

I have at least 20 different devices that run some flavor of Linux. Servers, a laptop, TVs, AP/routers, probably more, if my other “smart” appliances run Linux also.

Do Android phones and tablets count towards Linux gaming?

PlayStations run a derivitive of BSD, maybe those should get honorable mention. ;)

sep,

Including phones would be significant. But in my (probably deranged) head android/linux is a different os from GNU/linux. The overlap of the kernel itself is not enough. In that case all switches/routers/storage appliances/toasters/washing machines/fridges/iot sensors often also run linux.

itsPina,
@itsPina@hexbear.net avatar

Steam market share is honestly probably a decent metric for adoption rate of Linux as a whole.

const_void,

And that’s important because?

UprisingVoltage,

Linux can be used to play commercial games > more people daily drive to linux > more companies port their software to linux > even more people switch to linux > Windows/macOS duopoly breaks, losing to open source alternatives

I’m not saying playing call of duty on the deck will make windows fall, but it’s a start

const_void,

daily drive to Linux

Since when have you needed to commute to use Linux? 🤣

UprisingVoltage,

Daily drive linux *

Lmao my bad

0xtero,

Because the more market share leads to better hardware and driver support

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

The fluctuation in Simplified Chinese use makes me pretty suspect here. It was nearly cut in half in one month and suddenly 20% of Steam’s users that used Simplified Chinese just didn’t exist.

Honestly that big of a fluctuation in regional selection tells me none of the other data means anything.

LeFantome,

If you are a Linux user and like commercial games, you probably would prefer them to work on Linux.

“Market share” on Linux aligns the vested interest of game makers and Linux game players. If the company thinks it can make money, it will do more to allow games to run, or at least do less to stop them.

Mereo,

Because of Valve, Linux is finally my main OS. I’m a PC gamer and it was a pain in the ass to dual-boot between Windows and Linux.

GravitySpoiled,

A lot of people only play games on their computer, hence running linux doesn’t make sense if they can’t play games on it

nous,

Yup, a big excuse I used to see a lot was

I would like to run Linux, but I want to game more so will stick to Windows

And this has changed a lot with what valve has done which opens Linux to a much larger market of people that can now use it for their usecases.

lemmyvore, (edited )

There’s high potential overlap between the profile of a PC gamer (who is often also a PC builder and general computing DIY hobbyist) and an OS like Linux that extends your tinkering ability massively on the software side.

PC/laptop users are a shrinking demographic nowadays thanks to the advent of mobile devices, but they’re a high quality demographic made up of professionals and hobbyists with above average computer savvy. So lots of companies are trying to appeal to them because the choices they make in software and hardware can translate into many other IT fields.

andrew_bidlaw,
@andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works avatar

These commercial, proprietary games are one of the things that pushes forward the capabilities of personal computers. They are unreasonable, unoptimized resource-hogs. If a Linux system is as capable of running them as a proprietary OS (that has a deck stacked in it’s favor), it means they lose one another advantage over Linux. And it also means that your hardware now is more productive at less bs tasks, especially consumer-grade nvidia cards, who are better supported now than years ago.

FIST_FILLET,

market share leads to demand, demand leads to supply

this benefits you

the_postminimalist, (edited ) in why doesn't GNOME have a mascot??

Not everyone feels like having a mascot fits with their branding

Pantherina,

So they take a damn FOOTFUNGUS

3laws,

My head canon is that Pingu is the only mascot for GNOME.

9488fcea02a9, in What's your experience with bluetooth audio?

Pipewire and debian stable here

BT audio works like 99% of the time. Then there’s that 1% it just stops working for no apparent reason and you spend an hour googling why without finding any answers. And in the end, unpairing, forgetting the device and the re-adding it fixes the problem in 2 mins

Overall very happy once i remember the quick fix

oldbaldgrumpy, in Made the switch to KDE

I think having options is the best part of Linux. I’ve used XFCE for years, but if I ever get tired of it there are plenty of great options.

itsPina, in Steam Linux Marketshare Surges To Nearly 2% In November
@itsPina@hexbear.net avatar

id like to think this is because I alone decided to install opensuse (its been an awful experience)

0x4E4F,

Feel the pain 😂.

Secret300, (edited )

Do you mean Linux in general or just Open suse? Never used it other than booting it up and trying out the live environment

mosiacmango, (edited )

Opensuse is a challenge after living in Debian world for a while.

Pop-os is where I eventually ended up. Ubuntu with built in i3 style tiling and none of the snap garbage.

Onlytanner,

If you’re referring to openSUSE rather than Linux in general, I have had the opposite experience. I had been on Manjaro for the past couple of years and decided to switch to openSUSE Tumbleweed on a whim and everything for the most part has just worked out of the box with minimal troubleshooting (or just a lot less than I remember when I was originally configuring my Manjaro install). What all have you had problems with?

itsPina, (edited )
@itsPina@hexbear.net avatar

Heres my biggest complaints so far:

it takes like 45 seconds for my OS to wake from sleep

sometimes my login screen is on my left monitor, sometimes on my right, sometimes on both!

It took me 3 hours to get wallpaper engine running

My package manager keeps telling me I am missing dependencies that I have verified exist.

video games dont perform as well on Linux as they do on windows (even baby games like Risk of Rain Returns which should run on pretty much anything perfectly)

half the time I reboot my computer I get some weird nvidia error, other times I dont at all. Generally when I reboot my computer it just stalls for like 45 seconds before actually rebooting.

it was very unclear what I needed to install to get the latest nvidia drivers installed. Got it working after a few hours of trial and error.

theres some more complaints but those are the ones off the top of my head.

oh also applying themes seems very broken. Every time I apply a theme it grabs icons from a completely different theme. For instance I applied a theme called dracula, didnt like it so I switched back to the opensuse default theme, after a while I found a different theme and applied it but suddenly all of my icons were dracula theme again… also its very hit or miss whether all of the theme actually applies.

turkalino, in Made the switch to KDE
@turkalino@lemmy.yachts avatar

I tried GNOME for all but three minutes until I found out that you could be scrolling along with your mouse wheel and oop, a slider suddenly appears under your cursor, steals focus, and now your mouse wheel is moving the slider before you can notice where it used to be.

What an awful default choice for UI/UX behavior.

Anticorp,

That has never happened to me in the many years I’ve been using Gnome.

KISSmyOS,

I used Gnome for half an hour when I noticed I can three-finger-swipe left/right to switch workspaces and swipe up/down to open and close the overview. I’ll never use anything else on my laptop!

TheGrandNagus,

That is not a UX choice, not default behaviour, and has not happened to me ever, after a decade+ of use.

Norgur, in Steam Linux Marketshare Surges To Nearly 2% In November

Can we talk about the definition of a "surge", please!

joshhsoj1902,

What percentage increase do you feel is required for surge to be a reasonable definition. A 35% increase feels surge-y me.

agame,

Sergei?

CheesyFox,

sir gay?

porksoda,

It’s not the percentage total but the speed of increase.

ImFresh3x, (edited )

It’s not just a percentage thing. 1 person yesterday to 2 people today is a 100% increase. Not much of a surge, at least in terms of news worthiness. Going from 6% to 10% sounds more news worthy than going from 1% to 2% despite the latter being a much larger percentage increase.

sekhat,

Considering the many millions of steam accounts. A 1% increase is nothing to sniff at.

joshhsoj1902,

Of course, percentage just help show relativity. It’s why people can look at a 0.5% increase and dismiss it as not significant.

Would it help if I translated the percentage for you? Linux surged 600000 to 2.3 million.

soggy_kitty,

The council planted a new tree on my road, trees surged in population from 1 to 2 yesterday

ChairmanMeow,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

Given the sheer amount of Steam users, it’s still not a bad increase.

hdnsmbt,

100% surge is legit

joshhsoj1902,

That’s why we’re talking about relative percentages.

In your example we would need to know how many trees existed on your road/city before. If there were less than 3 or 4 trees in your city before this, saying there was a surge is likely fine.

soggy_kitty,

I gave you that information, I said “from 1 to 2” and added context of “a tree” (singular)

My terribly made point is that although technically correct when talking about relative increase it’s dumb as fuck to say trees “surged in population” after adding just one more on one street. It’s a drop on the ocean.

I feel like the term surge respects the final total relative to what its maximum could be as well as the relative increase. But obviously language is regional and up for interpretation

brax,

A delicious canned energy drink from the 90s.

grue,

Josta was better.

soggy_kitty,

Click bait media

azvasKvklenko, in What's your experience with bluetooth audio?

Vanilla Arch Linux, AirPods work better than on Android (which was super unreliable), but I also don’t care about automatic profile switching as I actually prefer to switch manually to whatever I need at the given moment.

Spectacle8011, in Made the switch to KDE
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I like them both. GNOME’s desktop metaphor is nicer but it can be replicated on Plasma with a few shortcuts. Plasma has a few niceties not present in GNOME. GNOME is prettier. Dolphin is a better file manager than Nautilus. GNOME programs don’t have a way of rebinding keyboard shortcuts.

It just depends on what I consider more important at the time.

GFGJewbacca,

I do agree that GNOME is really beautiful. I spent time making the taskbar more like GNOME before commiting to using KDE.

Rockslide0482,

I think the KDE vs Gnome thing in general for a lot is familiarity, but I gotta say as a primarily Gnome user, I find Dolphin harder(or maybe less intuitive) to use. It’s not bad, and in a number of ways I would agree is absolutely superior to Nautilus, but for whatever reason, between the two, I generally would prefer Nautilus.

Spectacle8011,
@Spectacle8011@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

GNOME changed the way I used desktops. Dolphin changed the way I used file managers.

I always set Nautilus to use one-click behavior, but it doesn’t have handles like Dolphin does. And Dolphin has a built-in terminal. And other niceties. I like Nautilus too. I think both desktops have some good ideas and I like to bring some KDE ideas over to GNOME and vice versa.

But if there’s one thing I’m sure of, it’s that GNOME is much better designed than macOS.

sbv, in what caused you to get into Linux?

programming. It’s just a really big IDE.

LeFantome, in How safe are my data if my hard drive isn't encrypted?

You are relying 100% on physical security. If nobody can take your drive or physically operate your computer, it is safe.

If I could boot a USB stick on your machine, or pull the drive, accessing your data would be trivial.

2xsaiko, (edited ) in what caused you to get into Linux?
@2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Windows 8 being unusable on my shitty laptop I had back then, IIRC it would bluescreen 9 out of 10 times on startup (this same bug still persisted when eventually Windows 10 came out). I essentially switched to Linux full time after that.

SamXavia, in Steam Linux Marketshare Surges To Nearly 2% In November
@SamXavia@kbin.run avatar

I'm guessing this is because of more sales of the Steam Deck, haven't got myself one yet but I'd love to as everyone that has gotten ones has said it's worth the money as well as is a great way to get through your games on the go.

vanderbilt,
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

It’s been pretty good. So long as you stick to verified and playable games your experience is going to be pretty solid.

GammaGames,

How many are there? I always see more games getting added

nous,

6 of the top 10 are verified or playable or 43% of the top 1000 games. But verified and playable is only a subset of the games that work, quite a few unsupported games do as well. If you go by medals the 7 of the top 10 are silver ranked or better (minor issues but generally playable) and 88% of the top 1000. So there are a lot of games that are playable that are still listed as unsupported on the deck.

You can see the numbers for various different things at www.protondb.com as well as different reports for all the games (including some tips on how to get things to work or work better).

niisyth,

That and Emudeck.

The most seamless retro gaming setup I’ve used yet.

averyminya, (edited )

TBH I’ve yet to come across any game I haven’t been able to play (aside from the obvious VR/occasional anti-cheat), most unsupported games just haven’t been tested for most cases

Edit: out of curiosity I actually went through my library to see just how many unsupported games I could download and try (again, not the VR ones lol).

I ended up getting caught up playing Revita all day and it says unsupported but it definitely works! For anyone else interested in that game, it is having some development quirks but there’s a public beta branch of it that seems to be the “definitive” version of the game.

Uploaded a control scheme template for the beta since there wasn’t one I liked :D

Then I tried an old DOS game Litil Divil which also worked just fine. I’d have tried some others but like I said, addicting game be addicting

vanderbilt,
@vanderbilt@beehaw.org avatar

Same, I’m not a big multiplayer person so most of the time it works out. My latest has been Lethal Company, my first new multiplayer game this year 😂. Been a blast.

brax,

That, but also the splash buff of Proton making a lot of games work for Linux outside of Steam Decks has probably helped too.

NinePeedles,

You may be right in that people are seeing how viable Linux is for gaming due to the success of the Steam Deck.

I’m not sure if steam deck is counted under Arch, but it’s definitely not Ubuntu, Mint, or Manjaro. It looks like the increase in Linux desktop is traditional desktop gaming.

verysoft, (edited )

SteamOS is 42.99% of the Linux share on there, with the lion's share increase of 0.68%. This 'surge' is pretty much just from the Steam Deck.

cygnus,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

I’m not sure if steam deck is counted under Arch

It must be, because there’s no way vanilla Arch is the most-used Linux distro, even among gamers.

lemmyvore,

Add the article says, the surge is entirely thanks to the Deck. There was a 35% surge in overall use but 43% of that use is the Deck so PC/laptop use has actually dropped.

khannie,
@khannie@lemmy.world avatar

I’d say some of that drop was punters like me who were already gaming on Linux and have just moved over to the deck now.

I have a dock for mine and it’s really the only thing I use for gaming now as my laptop is very old.

timicin, (edited ) in Made the switch to KDE

i started using kde once personal computers became beefy enough to handle it well around 2002 but switched to gnome because gnome felt more polished at the time and i recently switched back and, you’re right, the customize-ability is impressive after using gnome for the last 15-ish years.

it’s also daunting/frustrating at times too.

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