I have to recommend Linux Mint. I’ve been using Linux Mint (Cinnamon) for over seven years now as my only operating system (and no dual booting) without any major issues or any desire to “distro hop.” Cinnamon has also gotten a lot more stable during that time too. I have almost no crashes anymore.
I have a Lenovo Yoga 6 13" that I’ve had a pretty good experience with. Screen rotation didn’t work properly on Ubuntu 20.04 when I tried it back then, but I switched to Fedora 36 KDE, which worked great for over a year. I’m now on Debian 12 + KDE with an equally good experience. Fingerprint reader is not supported, but I didn’t want to use it anyway.
Some harsh comments about GIMP here. I think it’s fantastic. Totally bailed out my workplace when the Adobe Extortion Suite decided break on our machines. I use it at home too and I’m grateful for it.
If you want to kill x86, you need to do what Valve and the Wine foundation did with Proton/WINE (mostly proton at this point though), but for x86 to ARM and maybe other architectures like RISCV (especially because the milkV pioneer is a thing).
There is too much legacy software that will never be converted that people still use to this day. Once you make it easy to transition, it will slowly but steadily start to happen.
Box86/Box64 are promising, but need help from contributors like you. If you want it to happen, go make it happen, or continue to live in the world you have now.
Well, you do have qemu, which can run x86 programs on other architectures (not just running x86 virtual machines on top of hosts of other architectures).
Well legacy software is fine, that stuff mostly runs on old machines/servers/etc. ARM will be more easily to move towards by focusing the consumer market, where legacy issue is less of an issue because their programs are frequently updated. Some old server using outdated software that people are afraid to touch, we don’t need to worry about converting that lol.
Well because of money. You certainly have to pay to get Ubuntu certificated. And you only do this to have a Linux system with support from the manufacturer.
It’s an enterprise problem with an enterprise solution.
The normal personal systems are not in the same segment.
Precisely. It’s not just “it works”, it’s third-party hardware that Canonical tests, certifies and commits to support as fully compatible. They’ll do the work to make sure everything works perfectly, not just when upstream gets around to it. They’ll patch whatever is necessary to make it work. The use case is “we bought 500 laptops from Dell and we’re getting a support contract from Canonical that Ubuntu will run flawlessly on it for the next 5 years minimum”.
Otherwise, most Linux OEMs just focus on first party support for their own hardware. They all support at least one distro where they ensure their hardware runs. Some may or may not also have enterprise support where they commit to supporting the hardware for X years, but for an end user, it just doesn’t matter. As a user, if an update breaks your WiFi, you revert and it’s okay. If you have 500 laptops and an update breaks WiFi, you want someone to be responsible for fixing it and producing a Root Cause Analysis to justify the downtime, lost business and whatnot.
EFI and LUKS partition, containing an LVM with root/home/swap. Ext4 partitions. I’m vaguely aware of btrfs and zram but haven’t taken them for a spin yet.
Counterpoint: All the hardware and software with broken official linux support with the justification of “linux users can fix it themselves they’re used to it”.
I don’t think that is how these programs work. Community made lists an Wikis, yes. But this requires some corporate contracts, money being paid and some laptop samples being send to a laboratory where they will be kept for years and continuously tested for years. I suppose it’s going to be quite pricey and no-one will do that to a random windows laptop. Unless someone says I’m going to buy 7000 of those if they have that ‘certified’ sticker on them.
But I get how a company like Sytem76 would say, we won’t pay for that, we have Linux in our name and are just selling to consumers.
This certification program is for big companies that have requirements and contracts. They need to buy certified stuff. It’s not meant for consumers or small companies at all. That’s also why the featured laptops are a shiny Dell XPS 13 and a Thinkpad P16. Something you’d find at work.
Well more than half of that list is Dell products. Followed by some Lenovo and HP. That’s it. (except for servers.)
When I bought a system76, I didn’t think for a second to check whether it was on Canonical’s list. I didn’t even know there was a certification.
So I believe the poster meant, a buyer can be sure they are getting hardware with linux support regardless of a list kept by ubuntu. But if you are buying from a brand that has no pledge to be linux friendly, a list of what works out of what’s available helps.
I don’t wanna repeat myself, but: 7840u for the next few years, then I hope RISC V will be mature enough to kick some ass (and that framework releases a board for it).
Qualcomm is my main fear also. They will ship it with lots of closed source firmware digitally signed with their private keys which users can’t replace so expect a shitty bootloader and don’t forget about always running hypervisior, trust zone and world most kept secret modem
I’m more interested in something that has an actual hardware and software ecosystem. I’m no longer interested in soldering my computer and it’s peripherals together.
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