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aniki, (edited ) in What's new in Fedora Workstation 39

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  • kittenzrulz123,

    Fedora is an independent project

    wolf, (edited )

    First, Fedora is not Red Hat but their own community. (Although heavily sponsored by Red Hat) Second, Red Hat is FOSS.

    The ones hostile to FOSS are all the freeloading companies, which used the work of Red Hat to increase their own profit, w/o contributing anything back.

    If it is so easy, cheap and so much fun to support a stable Distribution for 10 years with backports for security vulnerabilities and drivers, I am very surprised that we don’t have hundreads of community distributions which do this.

    Finally, over the years Red Hat contributed a load of the things we take for granted now.

    (Writing this as a happy Debian user. I am just tired of reading this kind of bullshit again and again and again.)

    A7thStone,

    I’m with you on this. I’ve been using openSUSE since it was SuSE Linux, and I still here bs on occasion about how they sold out open-source to MS. I’m not a huge fan of what Novell did back in the day, although it did end up costing MS more money. That said the opensuse community is not whichever corporation owns SLE currently, and they still contribute back to the community.

    wolf,

    Thanks! And I totally agree with you: We don’t have to defend or like what the corporations/companies do, most of their moves I don’t like. OTOH Linux would not be anywhere w/o their investment. (Sad look over to the *BSDs, Haiku and ReactOS.)

    There is so much crazy good and innovative output from the communities around Fedora and openSUSE (I like what is happening with Aeon right now, very cool and innovative)… so IMHO it should be the default for every FOSS user to project the communities which produce great products free of charge from bullshiters. :-)

    Cheers!

    ToroidalX,
    @ToroidalX@lemmy.world avatar

    This is why I hate Linux fanatics. They think everything that isn’t Foss is malware or something. I’ve been using Fedora for months now and it was my first time using Linux. Is probably the most modern and best working distro right now. Like it or not is amazing, and with 39 it’s even smother. Never had any problems, works perfect with Gnome and nothing has ever broken. Even games play just like in windows with a bit of tweaking in proton. You should maybe try things first and not be so paranoid about Red Hat. It’s a company just like many others. You think Arch or Mint wouldn’t become just like Red Hat if they had the user’s numbers? This world is all about money, so stop complaining and just let people enjoy

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  • perslue,

    Thanks for the recommendation, trying red hat now.

    shapis, (edited )
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    I’ve been using Fedora for months now and it was my first time using Linux. Is probably the most modern and best working distro right now.

    I’m not gonna suggest to you to switch distros or whatever. But most of the modern feeling you are seeing is just the DE, which you can use whichever one with whatever distro. As far as Fedora’s own stack the centerpiece which is the package manager is actually really slow comparing with anything else.

    You think Arch or Mint wouldn’t become just like Red Hat if they had the user’s numbers?

    Yeah. They wouldn’t. I think they actually already do have higher number of users than fedora actually. If they don’t, then Debian surely does.

    Red Hat is a for profit company, and their first goal will always be that even if that means squeezing you and making the experience worse for you.

    Community distros are explicitly about the community and not about profit, and it works quite well.

    ToroidalX, (edited )
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    Red Hat’s business is mostly in servers and service to host for companies. Fedora is a side project at most. That’s why I find it funny that people think Red Hat is going to destroy Linux or something. My point was that companies want to make money, and if a distro becomes really really popular is inevitable that sooner or later some kind of corporation will put it’s hands on it.

    I know Fedora is mostly just Gnome, but you can’t deny it’s probably the best implementation of it in any distro. I tried KDE and wasn’t for me. I got used to gnome’s workflow real quick, I have trouble using Windows even. And Arch is definitely not easy to install for a newbie. Idk, I guess all this drama with Fedora is just pointless to me

    shapis, (edited )
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    if a distro becomes really really popular is inevitable that sooner or later some kind of corporation will put it’s hands on it.

    Not how it works. And more so in general if you’re interested and curious do some reading on copyleft licenses. It’s truly a marvelous thing and they work quite well at keeping projects open.

    I know Fedora is mostly just Gnome, but you can’t deny it’s probably the best implementation of it in any distro.

    I absolutely can, what. It’s about the same as all other distros that don’t add much or at all to the upstream version.

    And Arch is definitely not easy to install for a newbie.

    If you are interested in trying it some time, once you’re in the installer type “archinstall”. It’s a default installation script that makes it easy to install. There isn’t nearly as much upkeep as the memes would suggest.

    ToroidalX,
    @ToroidalX@lemmy.world avatar

    I tried archinstall. It’s still not easy, specially if you are not very well versed in os installs. As long as Fedora works it will be fine for me.

    In any case, whatever you install will be better than Microsoft’s Windows, now thats a predatory company! I’ll never go back to Windows. And maybe in the future I will try my luck with another distro

    jack, (edited )

    Fedora IS the most modern distro. First to adopt pipewire, systemd, enables flatpaks by default and btrfs. Probably other things I don’t know. Being first is one of their core goals

    fxdave,

    Afaik, Fedora is a free software. I don’t deny that, and I’m a free software fan. I don’t have any problems with fedora besides that it is too heavy for me.

    It looks you also care about your freedom because you use gnu/linux and lemmy. However, it seems you have a different meaning of malware.

    Softwere is a recipe. Any unwanted step is malicious. You can only determine a step as unwanted by seeing its source code.

    Besides this, a softwere can have other functions that are not coming from the code but the license. Similarly they can be malfunctions. For example preventing you from modification.

    So yes, propriatory software is malware. I use some malwares also, because they have no alternatives yet. But let me call them malwares.

    Copyright is the example of capitalism polluting water to be able to sell clean water to people.

    kadu,
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  • jack, (edited )

    You’re not wrong. But you are talking about the extreme who won’t use anything non-FOSS. In general, it is fair to say that all proprietary software is malware.

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  • jack,

    No one is allowed to change and fix it but the developer, thus you are harmed by being dependent on the will and motivations of the dev. Increasing dependence is always malus

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  • jack,

    Well the sun and your cells aren’t controlled by anyone, there is no one taking your choices away and profitting from that.

    I see your point with offline games, I also wouldn’t consider them as malware.

    I had regular programs in mind you use on a pc or smartphone

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  • jack,

    I don’t think restriction in society IRL is comparable to digital restriction. But we don’t have to agree.

    supervent, in Best distro for my Laptop?

    I would say debian but as others said, are you on hopping distros? Do you have any problem with fedora 39?

    Synopsis0795,

    I have almost nothing to complain about Fedora, but more so about the dependancy hell i face while trying to build any of the software i require. I want something like NixOS but without the learning curve of learning config file syntax.

    fossisfun, in Fonts
    @fossisfun@lemmy.ml avatar

    I actually like to use Comic Neue for personal stuff. comicneue.com

    Ubuntu is another nice font, which I like to use for more serious documents. design.ubuntu.com/font

    For system fonts I use whatever comes preinstalled. I don’t modify the font defaults in any way.

    SSUPII, in yas-bdsm: Yet Another Stow-Based Dotfiles System Manager

    He knows

    NateSwift,

    You can think of yas-bdsm eject as your safeword.

    He definitely knows

    AJamesBrown,

    You can put whatever you wish inside of YAS-BDSM as long as everyone is having a good time.

    Feel free to use it (or get used by it).

    backhdlp, in Fonts
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    FiraCode Nerd for mono and Noto Sans for everything else.

    teawrecks, in Is an unknown supervisor password for ThinkPad bios an issue if I've already installed linux?

    I assume you could open it up and reset bios by shorting a couple of pins or pulling the CMOS battery. Google the ThinkPad model number and “bios reset”.

    Note that if safeboot is enabled this could lock you out of the OS, but given that you were able to wipe the OS without accessing BIOS anyway, it makes me think it’s not.

    Do with that information what you will, good luck.

    cmnybo,

    The password will be stored in EEPROM in newer laptops. Removing the battery will not clear the password and could make things even worse since you won’t be able to change any settings that get reset.

    The best thing would be to return it and find a different one that’s not locked.

    teawrecks,

    Ah, that’s true. Big oof.

    wmassingham, in Custom shell prompt tips and tricks?

    I make it green for an ssh session, and red when I’m root. That’s it, nothing fancy.

    wolf,

    Damn it! That is such an obvious great idea, I feel like an idiot! Thank you very much! :-)

    Any advice/guide how to change the color for ssh sessions?

    nfultz,

    Check for the ssh env vars. For example, I use PS1=“${SSH_CONNECTION:+u@h:}W$” to hide the hostname when not on SSH, you could do something similar with the control codes for color.

    astraeus, in system freezes when waking up from suspend
    @astraeus@programming.dev avatar

    I have the opposite problem on Windows, my computer stops running whenever it goes to sleep. I think it’s Nvidia-related, but I’m not entirely sure how to track it down. The errors I get are not very helpful.

    z3rOR0ne, in Systemd Working On "Storage Target Mode" Feature - Inspired By Apple macOS
    @z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

    Not compelling to me. Gonna stick with runit and/or s6 on my Artix Linux systems at home. But you do you Lennart.

    ksquared,

    Same for me, but dinit

    Acters, in What is the easiest way to try all the DEs?

    The better approach is to grab the most popular distros that have different DE. See how the made their DE and what is possible. Also, think about what your goals are with a DE because if you are researching it then that means you have a desire in mind or want to know what a DE could do for you.

    manucode, in Introducing UTF-Random — Making Unicode Fair
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    Was zum Fick!?

    Parastie, in Imagine Linux on an Arm SoC that benchmark better than Apple's M2 Max!
    @Parastie@lemmy.world avatar

    The benchmarks for the M3 have the single core and multicore performances way past similar Intel and AMD chips. Qualcomm’s mobile chips are still no where near Apple’s mobile chips. I do not believe for a second that Qualcomm will catch up to the M2 on their first release.

    Aux,

    M3 is not faster than any AMD or Intel. And PC chips are using very old process nodes. Once Intel gets to 2nm, Apple chips will feel like dumbphone SOCs from the early 2000-s running J2ME applets.

    kalleboo,

    Once Intel gets to 2nm

    So in like 10 years from now?

    Aux,

    Who knows? Intel works in mysterious ways.

    cybersandwich,

    Isn’t Intel still stuck on 12nm?

    TheMadnessKing,

    They have moved to 10nm nodes which have density of 7nm nodes of TSMC afaik. They call these nodes Intel 7.

    Afaik, Intel is also planning to move Intel 5 and other nodes.

    Aux,

    10nm.

    MonkderZweite,

    Apple cooks only with water too.

    fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

    Keep in mind this is with up to an 80 watt TDP vs an effectively 3 year old architecture in a select few tests. The M2 was basically just an overclocked M1, with the Pro/Max models getting 2 extra cores. This is qualcomms best case scenario.

    pr06lefs,

    The Qualcomm x elite benchmarks as faster than the M3 for multicore. Not too surprising as I think it’s 12 cores vs 10. For single core its something like 2700 vs 3200.

    Laptops running x elite are supposed to be available mid 2024.

    zik, (edited )

    That’s absolutely not true. The M3 Max just about brings Apple performance up to similar levels as Intel and AMD. The Ryzen 9 7945HX3D for example is a laptop processor which trades blows with the M3 on benchmarks - single core the M3’s slightly faster and multi core the Ryzen’s slightly faster - and in performance per watt the Ryzen’s marginally better. So really it’s just catching up with older laptop processors from other manufacturers.

    And if you venure outside the laptop space to compare ultimate speed it’s nowhere near the fastest, particularly in multi-threaded. Its multi-threaded performance is around 13% of the AMD EPYC 9754 Bergamo for example.

    Caua, in THUNDERBIRD: the SUCCESS STORY of LINUX! - 6.4M in Donations
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    The best email client ♥️

    vox,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    i love it but it’s not very stable, crashes pretty often

    Salix,

    Have never had this happen on my 4 computers

    const_void, in Is an unknown supervisor password for ThinkPad bios an issue if I've already installed linux?

    Good reason to only buy computers with free and open source BIOS.

    Meganium97,

    There is an option to port coreboot to any computer but I’m not sure exactly how.

    BautAufWasEuchAufbaut, (edited )
    @BautAufWasEuchAufbaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Coreboot is great! I see a brighter future on ARM/RISC-V than x86 though.

    notannpc, in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

    Amazon out here thinking “could you imagine how much cheap garbage we could try to sell people if we can harvest literally all of the data directly?”

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