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nous, (edited ) in This guy has a good take on linux companies, agree or disagree?

Oh, just invest in adobe and get it developed for Linux - easy, why didnt anyone think of this before. And better yet, if they do invest they could make it a PopOS exclusive!!?!?!! \s

It wont work because Adobe does not care and there is not enough market share in Linux for them to bother with it. No amount of money that PopOS has will be able to convince Adobe to develop it for Linux and there is no way in hell Adobe will give them access to their source to develop it for Linux. That whole argument is just a non-starter.

merthyr1831, in Nifty terminal command: xdg-open

<3 XDG, bringing so much utility and cross-compatibility to Linux regardless of your distro and window manager

merthyr1831, in Canonical's Steam Snap is Causing Headaches for Valve

This is a big issue with Snap. It may be like Flatpak, allowing devs to set their own dependencies for ALL distros, but its poor uptake outside of Ubuntu’s ecosystem means that it’s no different to yet another distro repackaging system.

Flatpak, or even Nixpkgs, are the future because they allow devs to have control over the distribution of their software. Snap being such a closed ecosystem in comparison only means it will replicate many of the problems we’ve found with traditional (re)packaging systems.

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

I can’t speak for Flatpak as I haven’t tried it but nixpkgs are beautiful to work with and configuration of my system has become completely reproducible in a clean format.

merthyr1831,

As a dev, you can just distribute a nixpkg with whatever build tool inside. That beats the current system of “native” packages where your software is repacked and then maintained by half a dozen teams for different distros that use different dependencies and update cadences.

Bottles has gone as far as to demand its fedora package be removed and now shows a warning if you’re not using the flatpak version because repackers just don’t properly test all their software (how can they? there are thousands of apps in these repos!)

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Yeah there are some issues with compatibility, I’ve found a couple of apps that error on my Mac.

How does it compare to Flatpak?

merthyr1831,

nix is a “native” packaging format. Apps are compiled for your host OS and run in that environment with no restrictions, for better or worse.

Flatpaks are containers. They provide a virtual OS to the application such as the file system, and accessing host OS features is done through “portals” which just means you can give/revoke the ability of the app to access your host OS resources such as networking, file access etc.

Flatpaks are therefore much safer in theory. But Nix packages are lower overhead, and can interact like any built-in software binary that you’d have when you spin up a fresh install of, say, debian.

Nix packages are harder to use IMO thanks to their poor documentation and lack of GUI package manager support (not that it’s impossible, just that it’s been a niche system for most of its life) and since most people are accustomed to flatpaks and their permissions system (and the fact it comes preinstalled on most distros) so flatpak is still pretty ubiquitous, even for NIxOS users

jerrythegenius, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?
@jerrythegenius@lemmy.world avatar

My least favourites are probably ubuntu and manjaro, not so much because of the distros themselves but the organizations behind them being a bit dodge.

Oha, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

Manjaro. Its just Arch but worse

CrabAndBroom,

Yeah I was gonna say Manjaro too. I used it for a while while I was heading towards Arch but wasn’t feeling fully confident to go full Arch as a daily driver yet, and it was nothing but trouble for me. I found that it tried to prevent me from breaking things, which is not necessarily bad, but it would also break things by itself and then this feature would prevent me from going in and fixing them.

I much prefer it when the OS just gets out of my way and lets me do what I want, even if it’s dumb lol

someonesmall,

I’m using Manjaro daily for +5 years and had one or two package conflicts, never any boot problems. I don’t understand where all the Manjaro hate is coming from…

bruce965, in Getting graphics artifacting on my 7840HS laptop, even after a motherboard replacement. Is it a driver thing?
@bruce965@lemmy.ml avatar

Could you describe the kind of glitches you are getting?

As a first test (and only as a test) I would try holding space bar during boot, then pressing E while focusing the Pop!_OS option, and removing quiet and splash from the line on the bottom, then pressing enter to boot.

merthyr1831,

General memory-corruption artifacting, such as pink checker-boxes around elements that are animating on the desktop. Swapping from fullscreen games would sometimes lock the system with a white screen (visually) until I restarted GNOME.

I’ve swapped over to KDE-Neon to see if Wayland might help, and it seems to have cleared up the artifacting but I can’t be sure until I test some games.

There’s also a possibility that the System76 power daemon was causing issues. I noticed that artifacts disappear altogether if I’m running any kind of GPU test, and I’ve seen some suggest that the GPU was running at a too low frequency. Would make sense if the daemon was the cause as that’s the other big change between Pop and KDE-Neon.

I’ll likely be back on Pop! when they bring out CosmicDE so I’ll try again then, but it might be that I avoid it for now.

d3Xt3r, (edited )

I have the same chip in my mini PC (7840HS) and it works fine for me on Linux, but then again I use Arch + Wayland. Maybe you could try a couple of different distros on a Live USB or something (you could create one using Ventoy and then put a few different ISOs on there to play around with). I’d recommend choosing a distro with a recent kernel and updated graphics stack, for eg Arch or Bazzite and see how it goes.

But the artefacts you describe sound more like a hardware glitch to me. Have you tried running the Lenovo hardware diagnostics from the system boot menu? (IIRC you need to press F12 or something to get the menu and then choose the diagnostics mode).

merthyr1831,

I ran the diagnostics and they all came up clean, which I mentioned to Lenovo (who were pretty chill with getting the mobo replaced).

It seems to happen more when the graphics are clocked lower, or transitioning from high power state to lower power states. That being said, I’ve so far had it work pretty good on KDE-Neon on Wayland. Haven’t test X11 yet tho.

bruce965,
@bruce965@lemmy.ml avatar

I had the same issue (on Pop!_OS), and I fixed it by tweaking the boot options to change IOMMU settings for my GPU.

I would try testing without the splash option, as that will change when/how GPU drivers are loaded and it might fix the glitches issue (but might still cause other issues).

merthyr1831,

I’ll give that a go next time I check out Pop!OS :) Thanks!

At least for now, KDE-Neon is running pretty stable. I’ll give a few 3D apps a go and get back to this thread if its good.

akincisor, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

I never figured out why, but I couldn’t get any version of suse to work properly on my computers. I’ve been with Debian (sid) for about a decade now, so not the most up to date criticism here.

rodbiren, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

I swear it is my machine or something, but despite CachyOS claiming being faster and more optimized I have yet to benchmark it as faster than the stock kernel for things I play around with. I wrote an application in rust to process a large text file and it both compiled and ran slower on CachyOS. I play around with llama.cpp and again it compiles and runs slower on CachyOS. I want to like Cachy, but right now all I can see is a bunch of window dressing to stock Arch with KDE and a couple of themes that I would rather change to default.

Also, why in the hell am I being asked to make a wifi password encryption key with the damn USB installer? CachyOS is not the only one. A lot of KDE using distros pop up the encryption window when you setup WiFi on the install image. Why? You want me to temporarily encrypt my wifi password on a temporary live image??? I just slows me down.

Anyways, I’m sure I’m crazy and clearly it is fast for somebody, but I can’t even get games to benchmark higher.

moonpiedumplings,

Did you test with different kernels? Them using a custom scheduler that prioritizes desktop applications might cause background things to run slower.

Plus, the use of ananicy (cpu/ram limiter) limits stuff like that as well.

I use cachyos because they set up zram, anf uksmd by defualt. That’s ram compression and deduplication, and it’a pretty powerful in my experience. If you’re using cachyos, then uksmdstats and zramctl can give you an idea of how much you are saving.

rodbiren,

I used the default v3 kernel that Cachy installs by default. My guess is the workloads I have are Ram I/O bound and that just doesn’t mesh with the scheduler. I’m literally rooting for it to be faster because I want caring about scheduler and optimization to matter, but freaking stock Linux Mint ran the loads faster.

Falcon,

Cachy is a great live usb because it has zfs.

sirico, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

I’d agree with Manjaro, It was my first I kinda know Linux distro after brown Ubuntu and Mint at the time it really worked well, but then package desyncing started affecting my installation followed by the first of many controversial behaviours from the team. It’s one of many Linux distros that hasn’t progressed much in the last few years, like elementary, and the idea it is easy to arch is false when you end up having to babysit updates because testing isn’t as up to par as something like Fedora or Mint.

Garuda is a distro that has swung from a do not install to prob the best “Welcome to arch” distro for me. Their focus on tooling is getting up there with Mint & Suse BTRFS manager being a shining program of the project. More so, shows how utterly pointless Manjaro has become and badly managed the project is.

dino, in Reddit API blew up and now I run Linux?

I don’t understand this topic. What are you trying to say?

Xcf456,

The reddit api blocking 3rd party apps pushed a whole bunch of people onto lemmy, and lemmy is very big on FOSS and Linux so it’s been a gateway of sorts

WindowsEnjoyer,

Try to browse Lemmy without finding anything about Linux 😅

ook_the_librarian,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

Day 1: “What is this place?”

Day 3: “Do you have a moment to hear the wonders of Fdroid?”

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

Not to mention, Reddit’s assault was followed by seemingly every tech company looking on and saying “hold my beer”

I’ve always been wary of the ability of tech companies to pull the plug of services on a whim, but holy shit did 2023 bring that way up the priority list

beepnoise, (edited )

I think OP is trying to say:

  • There was the Reddit API catastrophe
  • That led him to lemmy/ActivityPub
  • Which gave him exposure to Linux
  • Which he used to give Linux a shot

And he seems to be having a great time with LInux

dino,

Okay, thanks for clarification. really didn’t get it. :D

Snoopy, (edited ) in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?
@Snoopy@jlai.lu avatar

Unpopular opinion :

  • Arch, i installed it long ago so i can’t remember anything except that i spent lot hours for its installation.
  • Reason : spend a lot time reading the wiki without an easy installer…even Ubuntu was better but i wanted a challenge and a better uderstanding on linux.
  • Some AUR package didn’t work.
  • Why Arch ? To get the lastest os and package as i had a recent gaming laptop.

So I changed and prefered manjaro with its ui for linux os, graphic card…but some thing were broken…than i settled Pop-Os for 3 years and distrohopped again for immutable os : Vanilla OS and Fedora Kinoite. :)

Another distro :

  • Ubuntu
  • reason : snap and various decisions.
Falcon,

I enjoyed arch for how straight forward the install was.

Gentoo however, every time I do that from scratch it’s with X, Westland is NetworkManager that give up (my recommendation is oddlamma installer)

Snoopy,
@Snoopy@jlai.lu avatar

Yeah Arch is straight forward but is require an amazing amount of focus and concentration. :)

I should try gentoo as my next challenge, i guess i won’t like it but in fact, i enjoy those challenge and trying new stuff. ^^

wuphysics87,

You need to learn how bullets work, my friend.

Snoopy,
@Snoopy@jlai.lu avatar

Bullets in markdown ?


<span style="color:#323232;">* like this ?
</span><span style="color:#323232;">* or like that ?
</span>
wuphysics87,

As in what does it mean to itemize. In this case to make an unordered list.

Snoopy,
@Snoopy@jlai.lu avatar

Sorry, my english comprehension is rusty. It is an unordered list. I used it to improve readibility on phone and separate topics.

If the topic is mixed in a paragraphe i would have a harder time to quickly retrieve informations. Here you can read Arch and ubuntu and why in a single glance.

aniki, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

Ubuntu / snaps

dontblink, in Reddit API blew up and now I run Linux?
@dontblink@feddit.it avatar

It’s the path of many of us here, now you will hate linux if you come from windows, give it a couple of months and you’ll ask yourself how the fuck you could be on windows till now.

Rudee, in (Constructively) What is your least favorite distro & why?

Not a whole lot of experience distro-hopping here (went from Ubuntu to Endeavour and haven’t really changed since) but from what I know it seems like most distros have their place. Arch is highly customisable and all rolling release distros are good for gamers and those who need the latest software. Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, and other LTS distros are good for servers and newcomers (fewer big updates and therefore fewer potential crises)

For the sake of answering the question, I’d say Ubuntu is my least favourite. Its pretty bloated, and then there’s the whole snap fiasco

atomkarinca, in "Must Try" distros and DEs?

if you’re looking for an original distro, you should try void. it’s super lightweight. i used to keep away from gentoo because it was a source only distro, i would otherwise go fulltime on it, but now that it also has binary compatibility you should check that out, too.

as for wm, i love wayfire as a floating wm, and sway as a tiling wm.

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