UndefinedIsNotAFunction, (edited )

Welcome to the club. Your lan port is over there. (Insert broadcom chip joke here)

LolaCat,

One of us! One of us!

prenatal_confusion,

Talk to your kids about Linux, before a stranger does.

pelotron,
@pelotron@midwest.social avatar

NASA already killed god in 2011

friend_of_satan,

…and then went raving youtu.be/myc7eHGg5y4

Sammy,
@Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Hell yeah! Good news all around!

Cwilliams,

Literally

pbjamm,
@pbjamm@beehaw.org avatar
AlmightySnoo, (edited )
@AlmightySnoo@lemmy.world avatar

Congrats! Your laptop will be even happier with a lighter but still nice-looking desktop environment like Xfce and you even have an Ubuntu flavor around it: Xubuntu.

Sammy,
@Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I can be swayed easily! I’ll throw it on the list!

Blaster_M, (edited )

Xubuntu is still too heavy, you have to strip it further and go for Lubuntu. Nothing like a 400 MB idle memory load on the desktop

GreenAppleTree,

My xubuntu is at 380MB idling on the desktop. Also, thanks for making me check. I should probably disable snapd.

Blaster_M,

I’ve had sub 200s with Lubuntu before

GreenAppleTree,

No doubt, indeed. Just pointing out 400 is not unreasonable for xfce.

Trainguyrom,

I’ve run cinnamon on some pretty anemic systems and it was quite snappy. But I’d also been able to upgrade the memory so if it’s not upgradabe that may not be as good

SuperSpruce,

Agreed. Additionally, Lubutnu felt a lot more responsive than Linux Lite (XFCE Ubuntu based distro)

entropicdrift,
@entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’d recommend Linux Mint with the XFCE desktop over Xubuntu, because they’re mostly the same thing but Mint doesn’t use Snap packages by default while Ubuntu does and Mint is better suited for desktop usage due to their various nice little config tools.

TropicalDingdong,

Just wait till you start the estradiol…

Sammy,
@Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Oh friend-… I’m on the other side. 8 years on T 💪💉. But yes. We’re all queer.

NotJustForMe,

I was told that linux doesn’t work on the Spectrum oO

jaybone,

On Lemmy it exclusively works on the spectrum.

NotJustForMe,

I was referring to the spectrum computer, which can’t run Linux. It wasn’t about people on the Spectrum, which are probably all of us, in some fashion?

zcd,

Boy that escalated quickly

lemmyreader,

Penguin party :)

chemicalwonka,
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Penguin and GNU party, don’t forget

lemmyreader,

Agreed. Happy GNU year ! btw.

hangonasecond,

Reddit death > installing mint on my second PC > realising I can run most of the games I play and installing mint on my main PC > start learning Rust as a first foray into programming in a long time > realise I want to go back to uni and study info tech to get out of my shitty marketing job > get a shitty second hand laptop off my parents that struggles to run windows and install endeavourOS to try something different.

It really is a slippery slope. When does it end???

Blaster_M, (edited )

It never ends

The next step, you’re handwriting a fixit code because said ancient one off laptop won’t compile linux from scratch properly and some stupid piece of essential hardware is blocking your efforts to get to the shell first time.

linearchaos,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

You still have yet to get through some pis, then a couple of OSX boxes, a Windows VM on proxmox or when you find something in particular you want that’s easier in that direction. Then move into kubernetes.

You’ll end up with a couple of everything living their best life.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Do it. Go back to school.

KarnaSubarna,
@KarnaSubarna@lemmy.ml avatar

Watch out Boy! It’s a dangerous drug; it’s called Curiosity 🙂

TheGrandNagus,

It really is a slippery slope. When does it end???

It ends when you open vim. There’s no escape.

rtxn,

Having no escape is a very big problem if you want to use Vim…

al177,

Real heads ctrl-[

MaliciousKebab,

Next you want to rewrite everything in Rust.

Trainguyrom,

realise I want to go back to uni and study info tech

I highly recommend it! College as an adult who’s been in the workforce is way better than college as a kid fresh out of highschool. Great opportunity to make some more friends, do some cool college activities, plus there’s lots of good opportunities for student pricing on stuff if you have a .edu email and its a brilliant change of pace.

cygnus, (edited )
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

It really is a slippery slope. When does it end???

Given that you’re learning Rust, probably getting programming socks and a Blahaj, and then…

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

It ends when you write an AI better at configuring Linux than you are, but is also very good at soothing your pride… The latter is the infamous “alignment problem”

What else would we be making it for?

xlash123,
@xlash123@sh.itjust.works avatar

My slippery slope started with buying an old laptop off my company and deciding to install Ubuntu on it. Now all of my devices run Linux, I switched to Android with a FOSS ROM, degoogled myself in almost every way, and I run Nextcloud on an old laptop. Feels great to really own my devices and data.

Zeon, (edited )

Ubuntu GNU/Linux is not entirely FOSS, as it ships with non-free software by default. If you’re committed to FOSS principles, I would recommend Debian GNU/Linux instead.

However, it’s important to note that Debian GNU/Linux is not recognized by the Free Software Foundation (FSF) as a completely FOSS distribution. This is because Debian includes non-free firmware packages for those who need them.

From a security perspective, this is acceptable, as the Linux kernel won’t load these packages unless the corresponding hardware is available. Debian ships with Free Software by default, and I would suggest giving it a try if possible!

It’s essentially the same as Ubuntu, but more freedom-respecting.

Sammy,
@Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Totally fair, but at least it’s a start! (Ubuntu is the only thing I’ve been able to work so far 😅)

Blaster_M,

It’s like the difference between going vegetarian (Linux) and vegan (completely FOSS only linux)

NotJustForMe,

Bad analogy really. Vegans aren’t completely self-sustainable in the wild.

d3Xt3r,

Completely FOSS isn’t completely self-sustainable either in the real world - you’d need to be using something like RISC-V with coreboot and a completely open hardware stack with zero proprietary firmware blobs in the mix + not to mention running a fully self-hosted email/cloud stack. And if you’re using a mobile phone - even a dumb one or a pinephone - then you’re not fully FOSS. I’m not aware of anyone who’s fully FOSS out there, except maybe RMS?

NotJustForMe,

It could be done for tech. It is impossible for vegans. That was all I was saying. Or wanted to say.

jelloeater85,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

I mean some of us even run OSX 😅

TBH, once stop running Windows, everything gets easier. And if your running Ubuntu or Mint, it’s not even that painful to start and hardware more or less just works.

Debian is nice for servers, but it’s a little out of date for desktop. YMMV, welcome to the club and ignore the snobs ❤️

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s no true Scotsmans all the way down.

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

I think I see NixOS in your future. ;)

NotJustForMe,

Isn’t nix mostly for multi-system install? I did the nix thing a few years ago, spent a month on the config, and then never needed it again. Personally, I don’t see a use-case for single desktop installation ;)

d3Xt3r, (edited )

I use multiple systems and even I feel NixOS is overkill, especially with their confusing and sometimes incomplete documentation.

On the other hand, Nix the package manager has been fantastic - especially if you’re on an immutable OS, or running some ancient “stable” distro - you can get all the packages you want, without breaking your system - and no need to learn the Nix language and write convoluted config files.

theneverfox,
@theneverfox@pawb.social avatar

I’m running nix on my PC turned server, and there’s definitely a lot of advantages…I highly recommend it for people who can pick up languages easily and prefer fixing a problem once by brute force trial and error.

Doing easy things is much harder, but doing hard things can be laughably easy

I probably wouldn’t pick it as-is for my primary PC, but for a server? Amazing.

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

I guess you like to waste a whole day getting your machine back to the exact old configuration then.

bappity,
@bappity@lemmy.world avatar

the best timeline of events

survivalmachine, (edited )

Lol, saaaaaame! I’ve run plenty of Linux servers over the past 30 years with only occasional attempts at desktop Linux, but never got it to graduate past a secondary box or dual-boot. All of the happy Linux desktop users I’ve run across on Lemmy convinced me to give it another go. I tried Ubuntu for a month under the mistaken assumption that it was still a relevant, stable, easy distro (10-15 years ago, it was the distro to use if you just wanted a no-fuss Linux desktop). Snaps made me want to end myself, but not quite give up on Linux altogether, so I pivoted and now I’m on month 3 of happily maining Arch!

https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/453cd799-64ad-4691-897a-03053308e388.webp

sharkfucker420,
@sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml avatar

Join us brother

mynamesnotrick, (edited )

Same thing happened to me. Moved to pop!_os.I have zero regrets. I’ve learned a ton. I use tons of apps off f-droid and foss Ubuntu apps. I have degoogled most of my life. I’m also developing an Firefox addon for lemmy. It’s usable as a user script addon now. It’s called lemmytools. It’s my small contribution. All because Reddit got stupid. I don’t even browse reddit for answers usually about tech/programming stuff anymore because they block my VPN.

Corgana,
@Corgana@startrek.website avatar

There are literally dozens of us! I’m running Zorin. The Reddit debacle really hit home for me that free alternatives to commercial projects work best when everyone pitches in a little.

redsquirrel,
@redsquirrel@lemmy.ml avatar

Welcome, and enjoy. Be proud.

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