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onlinepersona, (edited ) in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

What are windows mainers doing in a linux community? Shoo, we don’t want Edge or Bing or popup ads in our games.

Syrus,

As a windows user, i’ll respect your opinion and fuck off. However i WILL be back bitch!! (My next OS is 100% linux)

onlinepersona,

You will be welcomed back with open arms my (future) friend.

Syrus, (edited )

I’m not your (future) friend, (future) buddy!!!

drctrl,

I’m not your (future) buddy, (future) pal!

Syrus,

Ow yeah?! Well I’m not your (future) pal, (future) friend!

Thyrian, in Finally, my name is realized.

Your name should be termindunkel.

mvirts, in Cmake me!

I ❤️ cmake

Probably because I’ve never developed with ninja or meson 😹

vext01,
@vext01@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Cmake can generate ninja.

Dunno why they picked on cmake when autotools exists!

fleet, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

For me, they both suck. I’ve been on Linux for close to 10 years now and continue to enjoy it more and more.

However, I will say, that if I need to recommend a computer to somebody who knows nothing about computers and doesn’t want to know anything, I will recommend Apple. I die a little inside each time though, knowing about their right to repair and privacy policies.

dewritoninja,

I would never recommend an apple computer unless it’s for audio production. Getting one fixed is a nightmare

librechad, (edited )

Honestly, if y’all would help your friend out with Linux they might be interested. If you just write down a note for them with the most basic commands for Debian, they would be okay.

DE: Use GNOME

Partiton layout: Use default /home for everything, don’t make seperate partitions for /root, /var, etc.

Add their user(s) to the sudoers file

CTRL+ALT+T to open the command line

Basic commands:

sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get upgrade

Install Flatpak, and bookmark Flathub in their browser. That should be good enough and honestly anyone could figure this out.

cyanarchy,

You clearly don’t have much experience with the full bell curve of people’s ability with computers.

librechad, (edited )

Be a good neighbor and teach them then. It’s not as hard as most people think it is. I’ve taught my mom, grandma, and friend how to use Linux before. My grandma uses Debian daily and she only had experience with computers by playing those online casino sites. Now she does it in full freedom and now I saved her some extra dough to throw into becoming a online casino addict! Yay grandma!

ScrotusMaximus,

librechad flexing his 500 iq family and friends

meanwhile in my family:

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/70590575-1c48-45a9-bc5e-3caae9860c9a.webp

librechad,

I am trying to say you guys should set it up for them, make it easy for them. It is very easy to just setup a taskbar and let them click on the browser, file explorer, etc.

drctrl,

I’m not sure why you are being downvoted but I agree with you. Helping them set up the first time makes their transition to Linux smoother. I just had someone’s laptop prepared with the steps you outlined in your previous comment and left them on how to install flatpak apps. They said they want to learn more beyond flatpak and genuinely interested how to learn to install the distro themselves.

victorz,

Sometimes a broken tool is the right tool for the job.

agressivelyPassive, in The successor should be called Plan 69 from Bell Labs

Thinking about it, it’s weird that there hasn’t been any real change in operating systems for about 50 years. Unix and its derivatives seem to be almost the only game in town, apart from desktops running Windows.

Bishma,
@Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I think the last one to make any real headway was BeOS and they’ve been dying a thousand deaths ever since Apple bought NeXT instead of them. Though admittedly that perspective is coming from a person who used BeOS once in the 90s and has never touched Haiku.

freijon,

What about Fuchsia?

agressivelyPassive,

Is that really different? I thought, it’s just a “regular” OS.

lurch,

It’s because you don’t want to reinvent the wheel all the time. It sucks doing it. Lots of effort. It’s much better to build on existing stuff and maybe improve it for your needs.

agressivelyPassive,

But that’s the thing: is there only one wheel? Maybe wheels are a bad metaphor here, but isn’t it weird, that there aren’t any fundamentally new concepts? Unix was developed basically during the preschool years of computing and we all just kind of stuck with its concepts.

Fuzzypyro,

I have thought the same in my adventures into alternative operating systems.

cucumber_sandwich,

Depends on the level of abstraction you’re looking at. Operating systems today are vastly more capable of organizing different provesses, distributing work amongst multiple CPU cores, CPU caches, etc. I guess the von Neumann architecture has just proven really successful in practice. And von Neumann machines require a certain set of capabilities in their OSes.

Maybe look at embedded systems, where we find a bit more variety. Things like DSPs or microcontrollers.

LordOfTheChia, (edited )

If the underlying concept is good and was well thought out, it’s better to build upon it instead of reinventing it.

Look at the 4 stroke engine (and engines in general) many of the design concepts date back to the 1880s!

There’s other engine designs (ex:rotary engine) but the 4 stroke has over a century of testing, improvements, and refinements. A new design can adapt some of the refinements, but would have to catch up on decades of innovation and testing just to catch up!

On the Unix side, there’s the evolution of the Posix standard (which was based on Unix).

cyanarchy,

I would point out, by comparison, that piston engines are effectively obsolete for certain applications. Most aircraft operate on some type of jet engine, which involves the same core concepts of thermodynamics and aeronautics, but are still fundamentally different. They also optimize for different criteria, which is why neither jet engines nor piston engines hold a monopoly on any class of vehicle.

This is really stretching the computer metaphor. I think my point is that there will be room for rethinking paradigms as our applications of computers grow to include things that weren’t originally planned for. But in a mature technology there’s a lot of established precedent, and that’s not easily overcome. It takes something that can improve the field like jet engines made new aircraft possible.

quantenzitrone,

TempleOS🕌

acockworkorange,

Plan 9 became Inferno and was quite successful as a distributed OS for network appliances.

Agent641, in The successor should be called Plan 69 from Bell Labs

I installed plan 9 successfully about 15 years ago. And then I did not know what to do.

Eldritch,

There was at one time a group pushing to make a more active up to date. User friendly plan 9. Distro if I remember correctly called Harvey OS. They may still be at it. But such a small group means that it’s going to take a long time combined with a lot of effort. And at this point so many things have moved on and become rather linux specific even. That the task only keeps getting more and more difficult.

Honestly, in the interim, many of plan 9’s better features were adopted in some small part or completely by other operating systems. Definitely not quite as elegantly.

What I really want to know is why is nobody here talking about inferno. It’s what came after plan 9.

acockworkorange,

Sounds like my experience with QNX 6. It was fun for a while, especially with the microkernel novelty. I could kill the mouse driver and bring it back to life. It was interesting to have that on a 486 with memory corruption issues.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E, in Distros bad
dejected_warp_core, (edited )

The moka pot design is small, efficient, and doesn’t scale. So some flavor of embedded distro?

ichmagrum,

It scales great actually. Have you never seen one of those mini pots that only make enough for one small cup?

spark947,

I use a Kerrigan, but I’m a debian guy.

Pantherina,

True. Very classy, kinda annoying and also fancy. Kinda complex but simple concept behind it.

You have to repeatedly clean up the mess but its also rather easy to shake out. So semi automatic updates.

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

Couldn’t really make it work for me, gas stove and a moka pot seems too finicky. So I just do pourover

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E,

I did use it on a gas stove (brought it with me when was on vacations at my parents lol) and totally works

I think yours specifically might have a design issue

mr_satan,
@mr_satan@monyet.cc avatar

I doubt it. The moka pot in general is finicky. Unless you put milk or something into the coffee I find it rather harsh and I don’t like milk in coffee.

This is 100 % a matter of technique, I can make a good cup of coffee with it. I just need to dial in grind and ratios right, but even then it’s hard to control the temperature. By the time I go to that sputering hissy phase it becomes harsh and very bitter.

In general it’s hard for me to find the sweet spot between battery acid and coal juice with a moka pot. Pourover is much more forgiving and consistent.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E,

Huh! we definitely don’t have the same taste, as I only ever drink coffee with milk, and as such i don’t care much about the exact taste that comes out of moka pot

Thanks for you feedback!

jozep,

That’s because you’re clearly a BSD user

ring_raitch,

This

GardeningSadhu,

bam! this is what i came here for. love my mokapot!

Dagwood222,

I feel like an idiot for taking so long to get one. After i brought it, a friend regifted me a milk frother. Zap the milk for 30 seconds and whip and you’ve got a barista drink at home.

acockworkorange,

The Ol’ reliable. Takes a bit of work, but the result is great. Debian stable.

Vitaly, in Pick wisely
@Vitaly@feddit.uk avatar

It is so funny that christian edition is discontinued lol

DavidGarcia,

proof that linux is demonic

nogrub,

i mean it always has deamons running

DavidGarcia,
RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

Satanic is discontinued not Christian

Vitaly,
@Vitaly@feddit.uk avatar

this is so sad

acockworkorange,

All Linuces are full of daemons, so rejoice my stannic friend.

geekworking,

If they kill the Christian Edition, it will be back in a few days.

TheOneWithTheHair,
@TheOneWithTheHair@lemmy.world avatar

Satanic edition is copyright 2019. Ubuntu Christian Edition is using 22.04 LTS, which is current.

If you go to ubuntusantic.org you are greeted with

“Are you redirected from ubuntusatanic.com, and wondering why?

Well, In January 2021 Guildcafe acquired ubuntusatanic.com. That’s why you are here. If you are a reader of ubuntusatanic and looking for the old content that you have read on”

Guild Cafe’s about:

“Guildcafe.com is a technology blog where we review gadgets and various types of products. We write how-to guides, buyer guide to solve our reader problem.

I am Sunil the owner and editor of this blog. I have been doing blogging since 2014. I am an engineering student and blogger, entrepreneur by profession.”

emeralddawn45,

Sunil just had a bad experience with Ubuntu and now he thinks the whole distro is satanic.

kpw, in It's (usually) already installed

Browsers are bloat.
-- average Arch user

phorq,

As an arch user, I’m confused… Doesn’t everyone use curl as their browser?

rustydrd, (edited )
@rustydrd@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not related to Arch, but behold Richard Stallmann describing how he uses the internet: stallman.org/stallman-computing.html (see section “How I use the internet” and the other section below that with the same title).

acockworkorange,

I generally do not connect to web sites from my own machine, aside from a few sites I have some special relationship with. I usually fetch web pages from other sites by sending mail to a program (see git.savannah.gnu.org/git/womb/hacks.git) that fetches them, much like wget, and then mails them back to me. Then I look at them using a web browser, unless it is easy to see the text in the HTML page directly. I usually try lynx first, then a graphical browser if the page needs it.

Fuck. What the hell.

I occasionally also browse unrelated sites using IceCat via Tor. Except for rare cases, I do not identify myself to them. I think that plus Tor plus LibreJS is enough to prevent my browsing from being associated with me. IceCat blocks tracking tags and most fingerprinting methods.

Ironically I think this makes his the most unique fingerprint in the whole internet.

nixcamic,

In fact, what I use is Maté (an English way of writing the Spanish word Mate).

As a Spanish speaker I’d just like to say

A: wtf is this even supposed to mean?
B: mate and maté are two entirely different words.
C: The mate desktop environment is named after hierba mate, no é.

Synthead,

As an Arch user, why do people care what the default packages are?

kpw,

I recently switched to netcat, this lets me control the TCP stream more directly.

vox,
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

also cuter

Willer,

😭

heeplr,

Unironically Lynx and Elinks.

redcalcium,

Let me introduce you to Browsh

Kanda,

Imagine not enjoying the internet via curl

Michael717, (edited )

Imaging not enjoying the internet via raw sockets having fun decrypting manually.

rowanthorpe,
@rowanthorpe@lemmy.ml avatar

printf ‘GET / HTTP/1.0\r\n’ | openssl s_client -connect example.com:443 -ign_eof | html2text

jaybone,

BTW, I use lynx.

gon, in Cmake me!

Read as “cum ache”.

b3an,
@b3an@lemmy.world avatar

🤨

BlackRing,

I mean… Maybe they saw ‘C’make’ and then realized.

KISSmyOS, in A repost from r/linuxmemes - Because I saw the original comic

Debian: “Stop complaining, she calls me Old Ubuntu.”

Octopus1348,

The mother is Debian.

rubythulhu,

Clearly the mother is Deb and the not-pictured father is Ian

acockworkorange,

And Slackware is the grandmother?

haikunaaa, in the main differences!!
@haikunaaa@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

What if I use Hyprland?

kryllic,
@kryllic@programming.dev avatar
RacoonVegetable, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

Nice recycling of Reddit memes

laverabe,

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

RacoonVegetable,

No, this is Patrick!

Default_Defect,
@Default_Defect@midwest.social avatar

I see this comment under a lot of meme posts, do you want content or not?

spacesweedkid27, in Cmake me!

I fucking hate building tools or package managers like maven because I am too lazy too learn on how to use them.

Not at all are they intentional.

I will just copy the source or some precompiled library from a git and embedd in my project. Try and stop me.

0x4E4F,

Meeh, if it works 🤷.

loaExMachina, in Xenia says that it's ok to use any browser!! (original meme)

This, but replace Chrome and Edge with Palemoon and Lynx.

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