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ptz, in Just because it’s better than windows doesn’t make it good
@ptz@dubvee.org avatar

The first desktop version, Mac OS X 10.0, was released on March 24, 2001. Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard and all releases from OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion to macOS 14 Sonoma are UNIX 03 certified

I don’t like MacOS, but it’s actually able to be called UNIX.

misophist,

I’m surprised you don’t lose Unix certification with crap like case insensitive filesystem defaults.

aidan,

I don’t want to be like Stack Overflow, but tbh you have some design problems if you rely on case sensitive filesystems.

QuaternionsRock,

I haven’t heard this before, what are they?

aidan,

Most importantly readability and usability for the user and debugging. Some programs aren’t case sensitive.

QuaternionsRock,

That last point is somewhat amusing considering you have to go out of your way to make your program case-insensitive.

thehatfox,
@thehatfox@lemmy.world avatar

Both HFS Plus and APFS can have case sensitivity enabled, it’s optional.

Enabling it has had a tendency to break third party Mac software though. Adobe used to be a particularly bad offender there.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

And Steam.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Being able to be called Unix just means paying for certification. No more, no less.

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Well you still have to check all the boxes, you pay for the license the same way you can study and take certain exams but have to pay for the certificate.

WeLoveCastingSpellz, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

Linux > windows 10 > Windows 11 > MacOS is my experience, I just can’t stand apple and their walled gardens. I hate that they try to force me to use their shitty cloud and prevent me from installing third party apps. Windows 11 hhurts my eyes. And as a W10 refugee that’s gotten used to linux, I think its tolarable

fl42v,

In my experience, win 8.1 < win 10: less CPU and ram hogging, less telemetry, and overall less frustration. Although, yeah, you’d have to replace metro crap with something less tablet-oriented.

Alternatively, server editions are OK.

Vilian,

Alternatively, server editions are OK.

wait, server edition on desktop?

fl42v,

Well, duh. Kinda funny how windows server is a better desktop windows than a regular windows. Basically, you get less candy_crush-like crap plus only security updates, as far as I remember. But yeah, there are different unnecessary features (unless you’re in the corporate environment, ofc)

Although, I’m not really sure nowadays since I haven’t used windows for a few years 😅

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Honestly you can use a Mac perfectly well without ever signing into iCloud + you don’t get prompted to sign in ever really unless you click on a feature that requires iCloud like the iCloud tab in settings.

You can even use the apps like mail without ever signing into iCloud.

ozymandias117,

The walled garden makes sense on the phone, but I’m not clear what you’re thinking of for macOS

I just went to videolan.org and libreoffice.org over Thanksgiving to download and install them on my cousin’s MacBook

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

I have to click through ten million pop ups to have macOS “trust” it. It makes me hate myself

bdonvr,

That’s true and annoying. There is a terminal command to disable all that though

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

oh I would love to learn what that command is

bdonvr,

sudo spctl --master-disable and/or –global-disable

Aasikki,

Still usually less clicks than most windows installers though. (Personally I hate all 3 OS’s more or less equally)

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

Actually no. Not really. Also there is no more braindead argument than “I hate all of x equally”. Form a real fucking opinion

Aasikki,

There’s no opinion to form. They all suck absolute donkey balls in their own unique ways.

AphoticDev,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m an Android fan, but I do like the walled garden for iPhones. There are so many people who just do not understand how to protect their privacy online, and phones are a treasure trove of personal information. I’ve no doubt that the tight controls on iOS have saved many people from identity theft due to their own negligence. That, combined with the ease of use and the superior accessibility features over Android makes iPhone the better choice for older generations who don’t understand technology as well.

possiblylinux127,

The problem is that you are trusting Apple completely.

AphoticDev,
@AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m not trusting Apple at all, I exclusively use degoogled Android.

possiblylinux127,

Me too

nekusoul,
@nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de avatar

I would agree that a reasonably locked down device helps certain audiences stay secure, but to me that always sounds like a convenient excuse. Surely they could at least implement some way to regain control, even if that meant having to unlock the boot-loader and flashing the device, which is not something your average person would/could do.

possiblylinux127, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

Honestly MacOS is not great. At least with windows machines you can boot into a live system.

Honytawk,

And have actual control over the OS.

Seriously, if Apple decides an app is too old, then it flat out doesn’t work. No way to prevent updating either unless it is basically without internet.

Linuxians like to complain about not being able to control Windows, but Mac is like a hundred times worse in that regard. Not to mention ads to all those Apple software on there.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Apple: “Sorry but your hardware seems to be out of date with our OS! Please buy another 3000 dollar laptop that’s only worth 1000!”

Me: “But it still runs?”

Apple: “Does it, though?”

Me: “Well not anymore… Thanks.”

onlinepersona,

Not to defend Apple, but doesn’t windows 11 demand you buy new hardware for it to be installed? Something about a TPM?

aBundleOfFerrets,

You can turn that off (unofficially) no such luck on mac

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah you need an Intel 8th gen or a ryzen processor in order to use it without a workaround. Something from the last 6 years.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

You don’t need 8th Gen. It’s just that 7th gen specifically doesn’t work. I’m pretty sure older Intel chips are fine. TPM isn’t on your CPU.

franklin,
@franklin@lemmy.world avatar

Correct, I was trying to keep it simple but yes more specifically you need a TPM 2.0 capable system

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

Does Windows still allow your applications to function update after update if you decide to stick with Windows 10? Yes. Can you just stay on W10 and expect things to keep working? Also yes.

I don’t have to worry about the newest version of Adobe Premiere not being compatible with this older version of iOS, oops now our promo team and our production team aren’t able to share their files because one bought newer Macs and now has an upgraded version of Adobe that Catalina doesn’t support unless you also buy new machines that are allowed to update through to Monterey.

Apple is fine for home use, but as someone who works operations side IT and has to constantly perform network workarounds to get their equipment functional in a commercial environment, fuck Apple and their “We did the thinking for you uwu™️” nonsense.

cm0002,

And OMG, Apples business support is absolute horse shit

Device management? Good fucking luck. Setting up iOS device management is by far the most painful, migraine inducing, poorly thought out, full of the most asinine restrictions process I’ve ever seen in my life.

Setting up Oracle on-prem software is a cake walk compared to Apples shit.

Windows is a business OS with consumer features, MacOS is a consumer OS with business (poorly executed) “features”

Apple: “It just works!*”

*As long as it’s not a business feature

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

I’ve seen MacBook’s last for 8+ years and remain performant.

bdonvr, (edited )

They update Macs for a good 8 years or so, which isn’t that bad really. Then you can often just install newer versions with community tools after that.

Edit: I haven’t had one in a few years, apparently that’s not quite true recently as they’re trying to drop x86 support and move everything to ARM

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

That’s more of an architecture shift as opposed to we don’t support it because fuck you, also Rosetta means most x86 Mac apps will be able to run on the m-series chips.

stufkes,

This. Been using Windows since 95 and Linux since 2008. Mac is the only thing I tried twice (for two years each) and I just cannot get past this mobile-feeling of not being able to customise basic stuff. Mac GUI is not intuitive for me. It’s good that people that like it can use it. It’s bad that I don’t have any choice as soon as I am on Apple hardware. I find this meme completely tone deaf. The issue with mac isn’t that it lacks Unix features, it’s everything else.

bdonvr,

What on earth are you on about? You’re completely in control of updates and you can enable the root account and do whatever you want. It’s still UNIX.

Are you talking about iOS/iPadOS? macOS is nothing like this and I have no idea what you’re on about.

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

Yeah I think most people have experienced an iPad or iPhone but not a Mac so they assume it’s the same walled garden. What they don’t realise is Mac has been a solid choice for power users, developers and creators of all varieties for over 10 years, this means the community and app selection is honestly ridiculously good.

mac, (edited )
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

The only place I’ve ever seen ads on my MacBook is in the App Store, the iCloud section of settings and on Apple’s website, all of which it makes sense for the adverts to exist. Oh wait I may have seen one as a precursor to a YouTube video but sans ad-blocker that is standing regards of OS.

Kedly, (edited ) in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

I cant wait to fully abandon windows with my next tower (Already on Linux with my deck) but MacOS is FAR MORE cancer than M$, part of the issue with M$ is it keeps trying to be more and more like Apple

2 edits: I think someone replied to this and then blocked me (or someone I’ve blocked replied to me somehow) as apparently theres a response to this but I cant see it nor have I been notified

And

Damn, a lot of you apparently want a mega corp have complete control over what what your operating system looks like/does/what accessories you can buy for it if you think Apple is in anyway better than Microsoft. I thought the whole point of jumping to linux was freedom, you have LESS freedom with macs than with PC’s

fosforus, (edited )

M$ is it keeps trying to be more and more like Apple

Apple has adverts in macos somehow, but I’m not sure what it means since I’ve never seen ads in there. Perhaps they’re in app store or safari or something, but I don’t use either, so I don’t know.

Windows on the other hand pumps ads on you right at first boot on desktop. I’m sure it’s possible to turn them off somehow, but I usually choose to turn them off by installing Linux.

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

I find I have plenty of freedom on a Mac

Adonnen, in Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac

I much prefer Windows to MacOS. The fact it is missing decent tiling is a nonstarter. It’s too inflexible for my workflow.

And sure, Windows can be maddeningly inconsistent, but what really destroys the experience is the constant ensh*ttification. I know a lot of people here hate everything about Windows, but for me, it only sucks because Microsoft designs it to suck.

Not only are there ads and (some) first party lockin, I cannot trust they will continue offering updates, paywall feaures, restrict more functionality, or insert stuff like AI to mess up my workflow.

I used to think reliability was just about stability and bugginess, but now I think it is about trust as well.

lobut,

I use Amethyst on Mac for tiling: ianyh.com/amethyst/.

Not sure if that’s what you meant though.

Adonnen,

Looks nice, I’ll check it out if I have to use Mac OS again.

pineapplelover,

Let’s hope you don’t

Unreliable, (edited )

Yabai works pretty well even with SIP enabled and there’s a new one called AeroSpace that’s in the works.

github.com/koekeishiya/yabai

github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace

jennraeross,

Thanks for the tip, aerospace looks to be exactly what I’ve been looking for for a long time #^-^#

fosforus, (edited )

Another good one is Magnet. Its weakness is that the tiling is manual, but once you internalize the keybindings, it’s good enough. And because it’s manual, it doesn’t screw up your windows like all the others seem to (for me at least).

Sway on Linux beats all of them hands down, though.

lobut,

Is that so? I’ve been wanting to try a tilling manager for Linux, thanks for the recommend!

fosforus, (edited )

If you must use X11 for some reason, i3 is the OG. Sway is Wayland. But yeah, I think those two are pretty much perfection.

bane_killgrind,

I’m searching for some document on my work PC and I see ads in my start menu, like what the fuck?

Can somebody exploit that already so they get rid of it

mac,
@mac@infosec.pub avatar

I don’t understand when people say macOS is inflexible, I find it incredibly flexible, stable and efficient.

Bondrewd, in It's the beer, I knew it!

Swedish*

FiskFisk33, (edited )

He was born in Helsinki. He is “Finlandssvensk” which doesn’t have a good translation in English, which is not the same thing as Swedish.

hemko,

I guess it’s Swedish-Finnish in English, if you apply the same logic as with African-American and other similar terma

ExLisper,

Oh my, now they are trying to Marie Curie Linus Torvalds.

Bondrewd,

??

ExLisper, (edited )

Marie Curie was Polish but the French pretty much convinced the whole world she was French.

Bondrewd,

Good thing Linus is Swedish. If you knew history and read the wiki, you would know about swedish rule of Finland and that a numerable swedish minority stayed in Finland over the centuries.

Since his father is in the “Swedish Peoples Party”, I will assume Finns casually use Swedish as a denomination for people who live in Finland but speak Swedish. I think he also talked about speaking Swedish at his home with his family.

Wow, lemmy goes to new lows every day. I cant understand why I have to feed this to you…

ExLisper,

You’re understanding of the concept of nationality seems very basic. There are many different minorities in different countries and sometimes they will identify solely as citizens of this minorities (like Russians in Latvia for example), sometimes they will identify as citizens of the country in which they were born and raised (like some minorities in USA) and sometimes both (like other minorities in USA). The fact that Linus speaks Swedish doesn’t mean anything and he doesn’t even hold Swedish citizenship AFAIK. He holds Finnish and American citizenships so unless you can show me his statements claiming he’s Swedish your arguments here are pointless.

TheyCallMeHacked,

Well then he’s neither: he’s American. He lives in Dunthorpe, Oregon and has been naturalised American. That’s all beyond the point: what people mean isn’t his official citizenship, but his ethnicity, his cultural background. And in that regard, he’s Swedish.

ExLisper, (edited )

It’s not for you to decide based on arbitrarily chosen data points. If Linus says he’s Finnish (another commenter said he does) then that’s it. Also, think how strange it is to insist that someone has one ethnicity or another. Categorizing people like that based on their genes or language is sooo previous century. Time to move on my friend, time to move on.

CbtB,

I’ve met him. He says he’s Finnish. He was born in Finland and attended school in Finland. He graduated from the University of Helsinki. He has since moved to the United States of America. So he’s a little bit American now.

ExLisper,

Yep, typical Marie Curie intent. I guess Swedes don’t have enough famous people.

hemko,

Well they have their famous king, Kalle Kaviar or something

FiskFisk33, (edited )

the knig <3

CbtB,

He says he’s a Finn. He was born in Finland. He lived in Finland until he emigrated to the USA.

Then you say he’s actually Swedish because he knows the language, his dad was from Sweden, and “Marie Curie”. Bizarre.

ExLisper,

What? You’re confused. I’m saying he’s a Finn. The other guy says he’s Swedish.

Onlytanner,

He speaks Swedish but otherwise is definitely a Finn.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus_Torvalds

KpntAutismus,

oh my god he’s born in the funny year

cygnus,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

June 9th 1420?

0x4E4F,
@0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works avatar

That’s why he’s so good with his middle finger.

Bondrewd,

Apologies, Im sure his father entered the Swedish People’s party by accident.

nyctre,

Yes, that makes them swedish-speaking finns. Still finns tho

Montagge, in The recent article from the register is kind of funny
@Montagge@kbin.earth avatar

Lake Oswego, Oregon got absolutely slapped by the weather

MechanicalJester,

The urban residents don’t have any electric backup. The wealthy do, but if you live in the Portland Metro area, don’t have natural gas heat, and the power goes out? Fairly fucked.

I live rurally and we got super super lucky to not lose power, but we were going to be fine if we did.

This is the coldest it’s been here ina long long time. Other parts of the country would mock the severity, but this kind of weather is rare here.

Portland Gas Electric raised residential rates 17% for 2024. Thankfully all that extra revenue is going towards making the grid far more reliable /S

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.earth avatar

I place I use to rent was somewhat rural and had electric heat. After spending a snow storm where the inside of the house was below freezing I added a wood stove to the list of requirements to the next place I live lol

MechanicalJester,

I replaced the small wood stove with a king sized stove. If you can spare the space a bigger wood box is fantastic. If you live with mixed, rarely artic, then I recommend the Blaze King. The catalytic burn and the thermostat are great.
If you deal with artic weather then I think Quadrafire might be the way to go. The fire has stayed smouldering for days. Very little smoke, mostly steam seen when the catalytic burner is going.

One negative comment on the Blaze King is that if you have the thermostat on max high, and get a roaring fire going before you turn the thermostat down, the draw can force the intake to stay open. I would add a butterfly valve to the intake or a damper on the exhaust if I did it again. When I need to redo the chimney next I will do both, with maybe a remote little helper fan to assist with getting the fire started.

I did that once and just chucked a pot of water into the firebox to cool it down. I had so much fuel in there letting it cook off would have been ridiculous but probably not dangerous. Probably.

If it’s more just for emergencies and power outages then I would say a little battery Bank and a pellet stove would be the way to go

Montagge,
@Montagge@kbin.earth avatar

I live in a manufactured home so that gets its own set of rules of what I can install in it. Luckily the one I have, which I forget the brand of,has a fire brick baffle to reflect lots of heat out instead of up. I can get this house 85F without meaning to lol

RegalPotoo, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".
@RegalPotoo@lemmy.world avatar

Down vote away, I don’t care, but they really aren’t though.

Pretty big difference between buying a thing that stops working if you don’t have an active subscription, and using an old LTS and being given the choice of paying for extended support or the free upgrade to the new LTS

hedgehog,

Pretty big difference between buying a thing that stops working if you don’t have an active subscription, and using an old LTS and being given the choice of paying for extended support if you’re a corporation, signing up for a free “subscription” if you’re not, or the free upgrade to the new LTS

FTFY, it’s an even bigger difference when the extended support is free for end users.

UnderpantsWeevil, in Nvidia...
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Hey, listen, y’all. Nividia is barely scraping by so of course they’ve got to cut a few corners somewhere.

joyjoy,

They’ve cut so many corners, they made a circle.

frezik,

They already have Jensen doing his own sound effects at conference presentations. Do we expect him to sell his leather jacket to keep the company afloat, too?

Xeroxchasechase, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

It’s real?!

astar26,

Those are community maintained packages in the first place. Canonical offers extended security updates (plus after the 5 year LTS EOL) for a fee, with 5 machines for free for non-commercial uses.

Very legit IMO

riodoro1, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

Isn’t Ubuntu Pro just Debian?

avidamoeba,
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

It isn’t.

Tarquinn2049, in Nvidia...

When the marketing department is more important to a company than the customer support. Rather than actually help the customers, they just make sure customer support never says anything bad about their products. Including the problems they have/had in the patch notes.

“These are too many fixes, listing them all will make us look bad.”

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

When the marketing department is more important to a company than the customer support.

The marketing department is easier to integrate with AI. Those stupid customer support folks have to actually think about the problem and determine a working solution, rather than regurgitating a random assembly of buzzwords and spicy graphics.

XEAL, in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".

Ubuntu Pro is free up to 5 machines

pearsaltchocolatebar,

For now

SirDankbud,

My update told me as much. OP’s likely did too. But it is usually a lot harder to manufacture outrage when you have a full picture and manufacturing outrage is the best way to get exposure on social media.

Sprokes, in Nvidia...

I bought an old computer to install plex. At one time I wanted to try some tool that does speech to text and decided to install Nvidia drivers to speed the process. I messed up my system and tried for hours to fix it but I gave up. Now I don’t have gui.

thisbenzingring,

In case you or someone else didnt know this, never install the drivers yourself, use the version that your distro provides in its app repository

Anonymous,

Novideo strikes again

backhdlp, in usb formatting
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Another advantage of having a NVMe SSD, hard to confuse /dev/nvme0n1p2 with /dev/sda1

MeanEYE,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Even if it’s similar names I’d normally plug in USB, do dmesg, then issue a command with latest device name.

bzLem0n,

It’s even easier to prevent confusion if you use /dev/disk/by-id/ id’s, it only took a few times of overwriting the wrong disk to figure that out.

Goodtoknow,
@Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca avatar

How can I figure out which direct device is associated with a specific id?

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

They’re symlinks, so you can just ls -l /dev/disk/by-id, and you can see what is what.

problembasedperson, (edited )

ˋblkidˋ or take a look around /dev, devices are symlinked to their various attributes.

Nithanim,

Not sure if it is equal on all distros but on every one I have used it’s a readable string of muliple components. One of them is “usb” for a usb mass storage, so if it is the only one you have connected to your computer it is very obvious. For like sata disks it has the manufacturer and serial on it so you can match what drive it is you want to write to. Also, the name is pretty unique (on your sysytem at least, globally I don’t know), so even if you swap hardware around, you cannot write to the wrong storage if you got the right name. Like “sdb” can be reassigned, but the id is an id.

backhdlp,
@backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think that does the opposite for me lol

MaliciousKebab, (edited )

When I accidentally decimated my external hard drive, it had NTFS cause there were a few windows machines I would plug it in. Then I reformatted the disk but then I thought to myself, should I have another partition for my Linux machine because that drive gets corrupted and then I need to plug to a Windows machine to repair it once in a while. Then I created an ext4 partition on the disk. Then a few days after I shrinked the NTFS partition and extended the ext4 to the whole disk. Now that disk only has one partition called sda2. Which is kinda weird but makes it easier to distinguish from others disks on the system.

Holzkohlen,

I just make use of my paranoia, so I triple and quadruple check. Then get a coffee and quadruple check again. Never messed up once

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