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Andrew15_5, (edited ) in Useless messenger
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

You shouldn’t use this app in the first place. It had many data breaches and it copy everything from Telegram (maybe everyone copies, but I don’t use other apps). I only mainly use Telegram and Matrix.

n1ved,

It’s impossible to convince that to friends and family. In my country everyone use WhatsApp as primary messaging app . It’s kind of like iMessage situation in US

Andrew15_5,
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

It’s nice that a lot of my surroundings have finally jumped to Telegram. Previously it was Viber (bleh). But it’s much hard to go to Matrix because it’s much much less feature rich and less polished then Telegram. I can easily use it as a basic text messenger, but that’s about it. So Telegram is a solid middle ground. Can’t wait for the multi server Matrix accounts.

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

im fine with my family using viber tbh since it isn’t owned by Facebook or Amazon

wingsfortheirsmiles,

I feel that, a good chunk of my friends are on Signal thankfully but all of my family still use WhatsApp

Rai,

iMessage For My Blue Friends, Signal For My Green Friends

Ziglin,

For me it’s the other way around :/

Andrew15_5, in Useless messenger
@Andrew15_5@mander.xyz avatar

You forgot about Matrix clients (and servers).

AlbyEvent, in Useless messenger

You can install an apps which basically display the WhatsApp webpage like an app, if you use flathub at least

pascal, in Screw init wars, real OGs discriminate based on DE

“systemd is fine” yeah fuck you personally.

Matombo, in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang

Also why for fucks sake does firefox do it’s own mime type management and does not respect default applications set on system level!

Hubi, in Useless messenger

I wouldn’t install it on my system in any case.

doofer_name,

Same. No sane linux user should.

Und: Hubi ist Linux Nutzer konfirmiert. - 2023, koloriert

Hubi,

👀

Jagermo,

Element one via bridges and run WhatsApp on an old phone - that’s the most I will allow an app from meta in my enviroment

miss_brainfart,
@miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml avatar

But please tell your contacts that you’re using bridges, if you haven’t already.

You are effectively giving away encryption keys to a third party, since those messages need to be decrypted and re-encrypted mid-transit.
Everyone who is part of the chats you use bridges with deserves to know about that fact, at least.

RmDebArc_5,
@RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml avatar

I don’t like WhatsApp, but some people simply refuse to use anything else (“better”) and the web clients can bridge the gap but it’s extremely annoying not being able to answer a call with a person you are texting

utopiah,

Easy, I don’t talk to such people. They can have my email or phone number if truly necessary. Yes, same for family or work, just not using Meta products for communication. Surprisingly enough people do understand.

nitefox,

“Easy, I don’t talk to such people”

so you don’t talk to most people, outside of coworkers, family and other weirdos

T. Care about privacy, also care about having a social life without being an annoying weirdo

utopiah, (edited )

It’s called having standards.

OK provocation aside yes, you actually have to stand for what you believe in. For some people it means not going to a meat restaurants, for others, like me, it means not accepting a WhatsApp chat or a Google Drive share. You also do that but because it’s either so ingrained or socially accepted you do not even notice anymore. Your standards are definitely not mine but if neither of us do push back, then we as a society go backward IMHO (even knowing my standards are not yours, assuming at least some of us do think and act based on new knowledge rather than random beliefs). So… yes it means my circle of acquaintances is not the most inclusive but I do accept boundaries and if it means someone is toxic according to my perspective, they are out, simple.

PS: you actually have no idea what my social life is. You literally can not judge if it’s “richer” or “poorer” than anyone else.

nottheengineer, in Useless messenger

Isn’t the web version a full client that works without a phone nearby nowadays?

davidgro,

Yes it is, and because of who owns it, I would even prefer that to an unsandboxed closed source native binary.

DudeDudenson,

Pretty much I’ll never understand why people want their webpages to be apps with access to all your shit

FarLine99,

it is convenient mostly for developers, not people.

drathvedro,
DudeDudenson,

But a lot of these apps are electron webpages in application form I’ll never understand it

sailingbythelee,

It’s because the vast, vast, VAST majority of people have no idea that many apps are just showing a website. Also, the app version is almost always more efficient in terms of precious phone screen real estate compared to a browser. Apps also remember who you are so you don’t have to login. It isn’t hard to understand why people like them.

That said, many apps are horrible from a privacy perspective. But that is largely hidden from the average user, most of whom simply don’t think much about online privacy anyway.

I hope the ubiquity of irritating ads are the thin edge of the wedge that gets more people interested in ad-blocking, and then perhaps online privacy more generally.

kratoz29,
@kratoz29@lemm.ee avatar

works without a phone nearby nowadays?

Last time I checked it kicked me out for no reason… But in a nutshell yes.

richardisaguy, (edited )
@richardisaguy@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, but no calls, because apparently a browser doesnt have microphone and speaker support

spez,

Whatsapp does their calls over voIP anyways right?

happyhippo, in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang

I love Firefox and it’s my main browser on laptop and mobile.

But as a KDE user, seriously, fuck it. It’s a mess.

milkjug, (edited ) in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang

@OP, join us in Tumbleweed land. I tried arch btw but it drove me crazy. I don’t have endless hours on end to spend on DIY when I am in a hurry to get things to just work™. Tumbleweed with KDE is a refreshing take on the bleeding-edge rolling release distro with sensible defaults and much less teeth gnashing. With arch btw I felt like the whole thing was held together with duct tape and prayers. And I’m certain whatever I did in arch btw, there’s an “ackchyually, …” guy who is going to say that that was wrong.

Pfnic,

I never had a better system for KDE than Tumbleweed. Definitely my favourite “hasslefree” distro up until now.

milkjug,

Tumbleweed KDE gang rise up!

Phanlix,

I’m the same way. I just started using Linux and Landed on Pop!OS. Tumbleweed is high on my short list of things to try, but I finally got everything working, and boy is it working well.

I think the reason is my hardware profile is extremely similar to Pop!OS products, so I just happened to land on something per-optimized for my system out of dumb luck. I’m frankly shocked at how far linux has come. Lutro is what we’ve been waiting for on game installs for better than 20 years. Steam integration is of course nice, but I hate using game stores and hate being locked into that.

Anyways, been a cool experience so far.

milkjug,

Great stuff, welcome to the Tumbleweed club, we meet at the dumpster behind Wendy’s every Tuesday. I tried Pop!_OS for a while and was quite impressed. However I have an irrational disdain for GNOME and Ubuntu so their derivatives are out for me. I hereby declare OpenSUSE and KDE the cool kids club. Tuesdays, dumpster behind Wendy’s.

Phanlix,

lol… the KDE crowd seems really devoted, and intent on snagging a new convert. I’ll give it a shot I’m sure. But I’m definitely saving an image of this just in case.

RageAgainstTheRich,

Which Wendy’s? Would suck to go to the wrong one and end up sitting there all alone.

milkjug,

The one with dozens of us! Dozens!

You’ll know when you see it.

AMDIsOurLord,

Yeah this is true. Arch has lots of small and weird package bugs and breakages it drives me crazy and I used to daily drive that shit (well, both arch and artix) for about 2 years. Changed all my machines over to Debian (used it as a server before) and my life quality has gone nowhere but UP!

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why do I keep getting distro recommendations? I’m content with Arch, despite its problems.

milkjug,

Ackchytually

nogrub,

i went the way of endeavor os back when grub broke and i’m really happy with it

JustEnoughDucks,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

Tried tumbleweed on my laptop, bog standard install with only defaults, first update with the GUI, completely deleted all grub configurations but gave no errors or warning on the GUI. Happened twice in a row.

Updating for CLI with YaST had no issues. Wanted to love it, but got a bad taste literal minutes after install.

I am fine on Arch, but I just wanted less hassle and ended up with more hassle. Maybe I will try again soon

crazycaveman,

I just got Tumbleweed set up on my laptop after trying Fedora for a bit. Funnily enough, the thing that made me check it out is CentOS 7 coming up on end of life and needing to find a new distro to switch to for servers. Obviously, would use Leap on the server side, but the rolling release cadence of Tumbleweed was very appealing (have used Arch in the past, but had trouble keeping up with it…). Still feel like I am only using a fraction of what I can with it, though

Amends1782,

Sigh… Another day on lemme, another distro to try lol

Gork, in If linux distros were WW2 tanks. Made by a guy who tries to play War Thunder with linux.

Do Hello Kitty livery tanks equate to Hannah Montana Linux?

hottari, in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang

Join the Chromium monopoly it is the superior browser. Aside from not having tab containers, it beats Firefox is almost every other way.

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Yeah no tab containers is kind of a deal breaker, thanks for letting me know.

nogrub,

one word manifest v3

hottari,

Did you know Firefox has also adopted manifest V3.

nogrub,

oh no i didn’t know that seems like i live under a rock

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think that was because Google dropped the controversial part of it or something, idk for sure since I don’t even bother keeping up with web dev. There was the whole WEI stuff to make up for that…

Knusper,

Nah, Mozilla just won’t implement the arbitrary restriction that Google set for content/ad blocking. They’ll be 100% API compatible, without limiting how many blocking rules there can be, which is the only bad part about v3 (or really the deprecation of the unrestricted v2), as far as I’m aware.

Mozilla can also continue supporting v2 for as long as they like. And they can provide additional APIs, which they already do, which is why uBlock Origin is, in fact, already better on Firefox today: github.com/…/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox

@nogrub @hottari

NightAuthor, in I am THIS close to joining the Chromium monopoly gang

In Firefox, open a couple of tabs, snap the window to the left, now drag a tab to the right and try to snap it to the right edge.

Now do that same thing w a chromium browser

Sonotsugipaa,
@Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m mot sure what feature you’re refering to, but I’m not downloading a chromium browser until Firefox does manage to drive me insane

possiblylinux127, in If linux distros were WW2 tanks. Made by a guy who tries to play War Thunder with linux.

I think Manjaro should be the one of the early ones that had a thin shell that was unable to stop bullets

quantenzitrone, in If linux distros were WW2 tanks. Made by a guy who tries to play War Thunder with linux.

POV me over a year ago:

  • boot into LinuxLite life environment
  • Holy fuck is that Google Chrome?
  • immediately shut down the Computer and delete the ISO
Holzkohlen, (edited ) in If linux distros were WW2 tanks. Made by a guy who tries to play War Thunder with linux.
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